(02 Feb 2014, 3:32 pm)Wellsey18 wrote bloody hell, what is your problem with these buses, if they were so bad why would Arriva and stagecoach continue to invest in them, look at the amount if E400's in the stagecoach fleet, and look at how very little problems they have. 19151 only went up in smoke because something got stuck in the engine (think it was a matress) so you cant blame the bus. Touching on the lolynes i think they are great buses, and theyve certainly lasted throughout the years, with not that many issues, yes fair enough some have had problems but that's mainly age related, i think you just need to end your little war against the E400 and just got on with them, along with your hatred for the 308

Firstly, I don't hate the 308, I'm stating the facts wifh justification and an unbiased view. Secondly, I'm being completely and utterly honest about the E400's. They're good town and city buses but, when it comes to express and rural routes that depend upon power, the turbochargers are heavily used and over relied upon meaning that the bus looses power and performance. The B9TL doesn't depend too much on turbochargers and has a good 9 litre engine happly chuckling the bus along whether through the Tyne Valley or down the A19. I've jad drivers from Ashington thay turn around and say that despite the coaches being cold and damp, they're far better to drive and far more reliable than the E400's. Have you seen the Flickr account of one of the managers at Arriva who lists the buses that he's driven. He stated on a photo of an E400 that he didn't like the demo and the fitters didn't like the look of the reliability of them. If you look at it this way, when you're on a DB250 powered double deck, it's just pure good old engine power letting the bus chuckle along. But if you get on a Cummins ISBe 6.7l engine double deck, you can hear the turbo kicking in all the time particularly on the E400 and on the DB300's too.