(21 Jun 2023, 6:52 pm)Storx wrote Yeah totally agreed, it just seems like basics to me but it happens all over the place. I can always remember the 19 with the Metro was particularly bad I'm sure the driver's used to use the Metro leaving towards Whitley Bay to pull off towards Cramlington.

It's all good doing hub and spoke but when the spokes don't connect it's a very broken system. It's even worse when it's 2 operators, with 2 different ticket types, in 2 different bus stations / streets at the opposite end of the city in the case of Newcastle if say someone wanted to travel from Gosforth to the QE which isn't exactly an unreasable commute. Then people wonder why everyone is in the car.

Don't know if anyone uses the shields ferry but I remember when i was a lad me and my dad used to get it across to N shields and in the summer there was the 333open topper.  The driver always waited for everyone to get off the ferry before leaving. Last time i used it i jogged off the ferry to the bus stop and just caught the 19?? i think and he pulled away straight away. Luckily for ferry users who wanted to get up the bank to N shields they were digging up and their were traffic lights near the stop and he got held up there - he even let them on but if he'd waited at the stop for 2 minutes everyone would have got on without any problem!