BusLoverMum 20 Nov 2023, 12:52 pm #817 BusLoverMum BusLoverMum BusLoverMum Posts: 5371 Threads: 20 Joined: Jul 2015 Reputation: 2 RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North) It's still really slow, isn't it. There was me under the impression that the train was faster than driving. Reply