(15 Dec 2023, 2:28 pm)Adrian wrote Ticket pass backs have happened for years. Once upon a time, kids would spread out in the queue, then the first ones on would run straight upstairs and drop the ticket out the window for one of their mates. It's not really possible with QR coded tickets, as similar to smart cards, I believe they have a short throttling period to stop multi-scans in succession. 

Regarding Metro, I was at Heworth when Heworth Grange was kicking out yesterday. Not a single member of staff there, so the gate-line was wide open to kids on the verge of celebrating that there's "no checkies". I think the ticket barriers have considerably helped to tackle fraud on the core of the system, but it must still be rife in the suburbs. Especially on an evening/at night.


I think it's a very difficult judgement for a driver to have to make, so best to err on the side of caution. You never really going to know if it's someone taking the piss of it's someone who is vulnerable. I suppose if you notice a pattern, it's something that should be flagged to management, so that they can try and highlight it to their school or something. Shouldn't be impossible, if the card scan is being attempted (and assuming it's a smart, not a payment card).

Exactly, I generally have a "technique" of asking them if they have anything else available, and explaining I'm not suppose to let someone on for free, or ask them if their mates can lend them a pound if not. Then wave them on anyways. 

I've never had the problem of a kid trying it on multiple times with me mind, I'd definitely report it upstairs if I noticed a pattern, I'm not sure GNE have many people to enforce fare evasion though anymore, I've certainly not seen any in a few years.