(07 May 2024, 12:51 pm)Rob44 wrote You'll be surprised but I think termination buses at gateshead is a good idea ( when metro allows this). 

Take the orbit 51 and 52 circle of gateshead.  As far back as i can remember this terminated at Gateshead. Had the joy of me and the ex crocodile first house in Halow green so used this to get to town, either by bus and bus or bus and metro. ( i was more annoyed that no one , driver or other advtised you could get a through ticket) Never bother me.  Then GNE change it to the q1 q2 when the "saved the buses on the quay side" and it ment direct route to Town.  Then they've changed it back again and have to say ( and i do get either 51 or 52 often) i've never heard anyone moan.

Also take the29, Used to run kibblesworth to gateshead then when changed went to town. Loads got off at gateshead when i used it and waited for a bus to town and never moaned. In fact the biggest moans were there was no coffee shop on that side of the bus station and that they would like the buses to town to go to different area like west road for discovery museum, direct to big market/central station. and northern area of town  Handcock and uni's/.  They also moaned more when it stop at market street rather than Eldon Sq

I think you would have the obvoius moans if most buest from the south and east terminated at Gateshead ( some are on here) but people would get used to it and it would help the buses that continued into town get there.

See for me the bigger problem is going the opposite way. For someone like me if I say needed to go to Ouston and it terminated at Gateshead, I'd have to get a bus to Newcastle, hop on a Metro for 3 stops and hope to god the first bus isn't late otherwise I'm stuck in Gateshead for potentially 25 minutes with nothing to do. It's impossible to time and it turns frustrating.

I'm all for integration but that's just poor integration. If I was going to Concord say and I decided to get a bus to a Metro, travel all the way through to Heworth then had to wait there it would be kind of frustrating but the journey time is short on the last bus so that's fine, the alternative would be sitting on the 56 going around the world and even with the wait the timings would be similar. 

imo. places like Ouston and Kibblesworth shouldn't have a bus going anywhere near Newcastle and Gateshead and should be interchanging to a train at somewhere like Birtley if they want to go to Newcastle, instead we literally have a railway that flies straight through without a stop which they both cross. I know someone will say 'the station would be in the middle of nowhere' but that's why buses connect you to it. Like personally if I lived on the 25 route, I'd much much rather have a bus every 15 minutes to a 20 minute train than an hourly bus which only runs to 6pm or so anyway. Start connecting the likes of the 82 to it and people from Rickleton might start using it and that might suddenly become a nice little corridor.

If you built near it Station Lane it's ideal for regeneration of that area aswell as it's just wasteland currently. Instead we'll just build houses in the middle of nowhere with no public transport as usual.