(07 Dec 2024, 4:59 pm)ALavery wrote I mean it’s awful really, the reason why stagecoaches cross city routes work is because they stay in the town. You wouldn’t see a bus from say south shields to sunderland going through all the estates on the way or taking big detours. People coming from east durham want to be in the town and aren’t going to want to spend an extra ten minutes taking a mystery tour through ryhope. Those routes should be part of local links connecting one part of sunderland to another. Main connecting routes out of sunderland should be going down main roads, like for example the 61 doing the 61A route and connecting at maybe grangetown. That way journey times aren’t extended ridiculously and people are getting to where they need to go. Having those local routes means the same too. I give it until the march changes for these to go bust.

Can't disagree to be honest, they remind me of the X7/X8 changes which happened, also under Feetham, in SE Northumberland which seen them go through Gosforth or via the Freeman which had very very negative reviews. They didn't last long until that was reversed and they lost customers for certain, as I was one of them at the time where I moved to getting a lift to the Metro instead which meant I had an extra hour in bed going to, I think, college at the time.

Personally I'd just have the 60/61/62 running direct with the 63 doing all the crap instead. People from Silksworth don't need a quick bus as they've got the 33 so it doesn't matter about that going around the world really.