To busmant’s point. I think it’s an important one.

Despite what you’ll read in the press, the vast majority of office workers are still 1 or 2 days max in the office. We can debate the merits of profit or whatever, but we can’t under the lasting impact of Covid from a commercial pov.

The lowest paid are the captive audience. They’ll use a bus regardless and they’ll tolerate the change/transfers/quality of bus.

But you’ve lost thousands of people who pre Covid were buying weekly or monthly tickets. It’s one day a week so they might just drive, that few quid multiplied into thousands then makes a route profitable or not and we are currently in a reality where that really matters.

Whilst I will always question our operators and I do think GNE are just sitting waiting for contracts at this stage (which is a dangerous game if franchising brings in metroline etc) I sort of have some sympathy on commercial risk in some areas. X39, 21 profitable….use of BSiP to put verses on the latter is indefensible

And on great park. I think as enthusiasts we have ideas but friends and colleagues who live there and use the bus, they’re happy.