(18 Feb 2025, 11:55 pm)Storx wrote To be honest, from an outsider, it feels like there is no plan at all and it's just whoever shouts the most. The 1/2 in East Cleveland are bonkers routes when there's commercial routes doing the main flows and they're paying for Teesflex to do the bits inbetween. Just does not make sense.

How they can keep not having bus services in urban / sub urban areas, at all, is shocking aswell. Nexus gets slagged off, and rightly so at times, but there's not areas like Hartburn which are busless.

I know that's a big problem at the West side of Hartlepool aswell which are virtually busless or have the token 3/3A lingering around which is all good as long as you don't leave the house after 6pm.

A lot of people want a bus service connection West View to the Headland as well.  It’s less than 5 minutes in a car but can take a good 20 - 30 minutes on the bus and that’s if you can make the connection to the 6 or 23/24
Yes you can also argue Greatham has the 36 but it doesn’t actually go into the Village itself and it’s probably a good 15 minute or so walk to get from the furthest end of the Village to the Bus Stop on the edge of it.  Still I suppose it’s better than Dalton Piecey which is completely cut off altogether unless you can actually get lucky with Teesflex. Burbank area of the town has nothing either apart from the Paul’s Travel Mini bus which has a bit 4 journeys a week if that.  

Yes the X40 X41 is great if you live in Wolviston or Wynyard and yes bafflingly it can be classed as Hartlepool but let’s be honest we all know it’s actually Stockton area and does nothing for anyone who is actually in the Hartlepool area although Ben and the TVCA did actually spin it to say they did something for Hartlepool.   

I can also agree it does seem to be a case for whoever is friendly enough and if the TVCA is actually bothered instead of actually looking to see where services should be happening.  It shouldn’t be because Stagecoach or Arriva can’t make a profit on some existing services and have got an extra handout, or as a nice way of helping a business ( I mean technically Tesco and Teesport should pay for the 101 since it technically a work service same with Amazon who should pay for the X40 X41 ) They is no thought at all proposals for vital services get ignored while in some cases like Saltburn it’s payed for 3 competing services with Arriva, Teesflex and the 1/2.   It should be managed better but I doubt it will be anytime soon.  
As for the 6 I think we all know that only even exists so they is at least one bus to the white elephant I mean Teesside Airport. I doubt many people will actually use it from Stockton to Yarm or even to the Airport itself.