(07 May 2025, 4:32 pm)Storx wrote Mind I think it's hard to brush it on just kids as it wasn't them having a drag race last year - it seems there's quite a few people making their own entertainment hence the bored comments. 

If people were entertained would be going off on a whim and having drag races etc? 

It's probably a big reason why Seaburn doesn't have the problems as there's a beach, arcades, parks and stuff around to go to, to take a break let's say. It's why the venue imo sucks in 2025 and events like Whitehaven on the same day went without issues.

You're right on the first point. It's often kids/young adults that get the most flack, but when I've been to rallies in the North East, I've seen other behaviours which I don't think are right, and I think actually contribute to the problem.

We know there's been a big issue for years about folk letting themselves into buses, when they don't have permission to do so. I have to say, this is a fairly new issue, as I can't recall it happening say 10 years ago? But at the same time, I've seen buses brought to a rally with a whole entourage, which I've then watched running back and forth, letting themselves in and out of the bus, most of the day. 

Whilst obviously they've every right to, I've never thought this sets a good example. I've also seen similar from people bringing a bus from a major operator, then sitting inside with the doors closed with their mates, pissing around in the cab and so on. Again, if you're talking about an impressionable kid, you can see why they'd not think that is wrong when they do it.

What's probably needed here is a reboot, but I'd suggest it needs to be done by engaging all stakeholders. Otherwise we'll come back here talking about the same issues over and over again.