(07 May 2025, 9:41 pm)Adrian wrote You're right on the first point. It's often kids/young adults that get the most flack, but when I've been to rallies in the North East, I've seen other behaviours which I don't think are right, and I think actually contribute to the problem.

We know there's been a big issue for years about folk letting themselves into buses, when they don't have permission to do so. I have to say, this is a fairly new issue, as I can't recall it happening say 10 years ago? But at the same time, I've seen buses brought to a rally with a whole entourage, which I've then watched running back and forth, letting themselves in and out of the bus, most of the day. 

Whilst obviously they've every right to, I've never thought this sets a good example. I've also seen similar from people bringing a bus from a major operator, then sitting inside with the doors closed with their mates, pissing around in the cab and so on. Again, if you're talking about an impressionable kid, you can see why they'd not think that is wrong when they do it.

What's probably needed here is a reboot, but I'd suggest it needs to be done by engaging all stakeholders. Otherwise we'll come back here talking about the same issues over and over again.

Yeah can't disagree at all. 

Truth be told, the biggest blame needs to be aimed at the organisers really and I know some won't agree there. They're the ones not controlling the event and letting these things happen, and things like a drag race happening under their watch, isn't a minor thing. Seems like the problems have continued aswell. It's just a matter of time before there's a serious incident with someone getting injured or some vehicles behing severely damaged. I know others will say it's not their fault as it's the people there causing the bother, but at the end of the day it's their responsibility to control them especially when there's other members of the public around.

The fact someone has mentioned that there's been kids allover their vehicle because they didn't keep a hawkeye on it, even known there's signs saying no entry, sums it up, especially when their personally belongings are on board. Where's the security?

Personally I'm surprised the event went ahead, at all, as if I was part of the Metrocentre team, they would've been nowhere near my site after last year. 

Agreed with a full reboot needed, and probably some different leadership aswell as much as I'm sure the current lot have their best intentions.