(01 Jun 2025, 5:10 pm)benji123 wrote Out of town services do not exist though, and they won't.
The whole point of a bus is to get full at various points of the day, I bet the 1, 6 and 7 run empty at times too. And again, all this money for what buses that can carry a few extra people? You're missing the point, the investment will come in the years to come. For now, they decided to focus on Stockton and Sunderland and in the future Slatyford. A refit of the depot will come in the form of electric buses and the chargers.
Stockton has midi buses, the new E12s have less seats than the E300s, but as long as the bus turns up it's already done its job.
95% of passengers just want a bus that turns up, people are not having conversations on the bus because a 2009 E200 turned up rather than at 2015 E200...
Right well from your posts you certainly don’t live or use the services in Hartlepool where as I do and I am a member of a local transport forum I know that people are definitely not happy about the age of the buses, about overcrowding, about areas without a service and about the bus network in general so please don’t pretend you know what passengers want. It’s no good the bus turning up if it’s full and no one can get due to how busy it is, so yes buses with a few extra seats as you put would be very nice. Hartlepool do actually have 3 out of town services in the 1, 59 and UCG all could probably do with bigger buses.
Every service has a journey or 2 where it don’t carry many passengers, that includes Newcastle where they have Deckers on some routes going round empty.
You’re right in that the Yutongs have less seats and I have already posted about that as they are going to have capacity issues on busier services.
All Stagecoach really have to do in Hartlepool is extend the pits, even being a small depot they is plenty of space to do that. Bigger buses means more passengers, more out of town services either commercial or contract means opening up places and getting more profit it’s not difficult to understand.
(01 Jun 2025, 5:10 pm)benji123 wrote Out of town services do not exist though, and they won't.
The whole point of a bus is to get full at various points of the day, I bet the 1, 6 and 7 run empty at times too. And again, all this money for what buses that can carry a few extra people? You're missing the point, the investment will come in the years to come. For now, they decided to focus on Stockton and Sunderland and in the future Slatyford. A refit of the depot will come in the form of electric buses and the chargers.
Stockton has midi buses, the new E12s have less seats than the E300s, but as long as the bus turns up it's already done its job.
95% of passengers just want a bus that turns up, people are not having conversations on the bus because a 2009 E200 turned up rather than at 2015 E200...
Right well from your posts you certainly don’t live or use the services in Hartlepool where as I do and I am a member of a local transport forum I know that people are definitely not happy about the age of the buses, about overcrowding, about areas without a service and about the bus network in general so please don’t pretend you know what passengers want. It’s no good the bus turning up if it’s full and no one can get due to how busy it is, so yes buses with a few extra seats as you put would be very nice. Hartlepool do actually have 3 out of town services in the 1, 59 and UCG all could probably do with bigger buses.
Every service has a journey or 2 where it don’t carry many passengers, that includes Newcastle where they have Deckers on some routes going round empty.
You’re right in that the Yutongs have less seats and I have already posted about that as they are going to have capacity issues on busier services.
All Stagecoach really have to do in Hartlepool is extend the pits, even being a small depot they is plenty of space to do that. Bigger buses means more passengers, more out of town services either commercial or contract means opening up places and getting more profit it’s not difficult to understand.