(25 Oct 2025, 6:23 pm)Storx wrote Yeah I get that, to be honest it was the more opposite aswell. Like if they get refurbished then they'll be around for longer type thing as they won't want to get rid of them. 

It's the Sapphire interior buses which need the refurbs, imo. Stuff like the 17 Plate MMC's and hopefully get rid of the cold white lighting, while they're at it. They're mid life pretty much now and are running around in an interior which doesn't exist anymore and hasn't for ages either. 

Whether you do the 14/64 Plate Streetlite/E400's is debatable as they're getting on a bit as well but they probably have 5 years left really.

Remember when sone of the V Reg MPDS got a full refurb? It was pretty crazy  I can see their raruonale for not touching the interior (though a deep clean and replacement of collapsed cushions would be good)  For the newer Streetlites and the 14/64 Environs, their interiors seem to be mostly OK so again a deep clean would be sufficient  

The 17 plate MMCs definitely should get more attention inside though, and the seats would probably benefit with deeper padding too