(Yesterday, 3:48 pm)logidoodah wrote My response to this....
"This is an unfair choice.... Why not do a clockwise vs anticlockwise route...
For Example (coming from town);
10 - Hylton Rd | Pallion Rd | Fordfield Rd | St Lukes Rd | Meldon Rd | St Lukes Terrace | Hylton Rd (clockwise)
11 - Hylton Rd | St Lukes Terrace | St Lukes Rd | Fordfield Rd | Pallion Rd (anti-clockwise)
This way, people can still have the same journey times with the perks of better short local connections. Such as I always get the 11 to Pallion Shops (as I live there) so would have a signifcantly longer journey home and vice versa for those that live on the 10 route but longer to town. This way no journeys are longer and people can still rely on the improved 4 bph on both sections just on either side of the road. People wouldn't mind this anyways as the bus tops would not change for the journeys to/from town just the number and if they just missed one they could cross the road for the next bus (albeit slightly longer journey but still quicker than waiting 30 mins)"
I can't comment on those routes specifically but I'd much personally, have 4 buses going the same way round rather than 2 one way and 2 the other way.
4 BPH is much better than 2 BPH, unless you're smack in the middle of the loop.
(The loop takes roughly 15 minutes to complete)
10: 10:00am enter the loop, leaves the loop at 10:15am
11: 10:15am enter the loop, leaves the loop at 10:30am
That's what will happen doing what you say, at the extreme sides.
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I don't know the area that well, but if the 10/11 is going down to every 30 minutes each. Surely a better idea would be to swap the 8 and 11 round, with the 10 heading to Chester Road so you'd end up with something like:
I've heard that the 16 is absolutely slammed since GoNorthEast's incompetence, so surely having the 10/11/16 every 7.5 minutes along Chester Road would be a massive win? I can't see any lost links?
You could also mix the frequencies up aswell ie, dropping the 20 to every 15 minutes and having short 8's (renumber it to 19) to Pallion so you have 8 BPH along Hylton Road.
I haven't worked it out properly but it can't be far from being PVR neutral from what's being proposed?