(17 Aug 2014, 12:59 pm)Andreos Constantopolous wrote I think there is a difference between someone hoying up off the drink and someone being sick because of the heat etc.
How an operator would implement a penalty system and differentiate between genuine (unplanned) illness and someone who is off their faces, is another thing.
Not sure someone who is genuinely and unexpectedly ill, should pay a fine - whatever the inconvenience is to the operator.
I have been on a few buses that have been 'fouled' as a passenger.
Twice I ended up on a United Olympian (723 probably), that had the upstairs front window pebble dashed.
Another time, it would have been a GNE (or predecessor), the back seats were taped off, like a crime scene.
The bus stunk, but remained in service.
Then you have the empty beer bottles/cans that have been p!ssed in...
It doesn't really inconvenience the operator at all, aside from the light mileage incurred from the depot to the nearest point to the depot for that service...
It inconveniences customers the most. As you say, these buses stink. Smelling sick makes me feel sick. It's these customers who are often paying for day, week, monthly and annual tickets who are having to endure an uncomfortable bus journey as a result of someone else - and if the bus has to be removed from service where another bus isn't available (as in the recent case which prompted this discussion), it inconveniences all those customers who are stood at a bus stop like a numpty waiting for a bus to show up.