(02 Jan 2015, 6:22 pm)MarcTheA4 wrote Hmm...yes, I take your point.

Maybe if Andreos didn't mention the Prince Bishops Scanias being absent so much....we wouldn't have that 'stereotype'!

I don't think there's an obvious correlation between the amount of times something is mentioned and a debate getting to the stage we're at now with the 20/20A. Robert has mentioned 5337/38 being on the "Diamond" services just as much as corporate liveried vehicles have been noted on the 20/20A, but we've not debated the reliability of the Mercedes Citaros endlessly.

I first brought up buses encountering issues with their wing mirrors with the intention of showing that even the smallest of things that we wouldn't immediately think of can cause a bus to be removed from service and accounting for a corporate liveried spare being allocated. It does seem a little silly, but it is a genuine reason, and there have been examples noted on this forum of it happening with the buses on Arriva's 21/X21 service too (showing that it's not just a problem unique to Go North East's buses!) Because it seems a little silly, we've ended up getting hooked on that statement and linking it to "Prince Bishops" branded Scania L94UB/Wright Solars being missing from service. I'm not deluded enough to believe that this is the only reason for these buses being missing from service, nor am I suggesting that these vehicles never encounter mechanical issues, but I am aware that the main reason for these buses being missing from service is the same reason for all the other buses in the fleet: so that buses can undergo their monthly/annual tests. This obviously isn't a mechanical issue, so I stand by what I have always said about the "Prince Bishops" branded vehicles.

I'd like to note that, whilst I do think that Andreos is a dominant member of the forum with a strong personality, my previous statement about people with strong personalities was intended as a broad statement rather than one to be directed at a single member of the forum. In this situation, I do think that his posts, with the associated hashtags, has probably caused us to discuss these vehicles more than we ordinarily would have, though.