(11 Jul 2026, 6:20 pm)Nerd4321 wrote The old ones were at least reliable. We have been sent broken promises by nexus for these new metros saying there offer the best & future yet cant seem to get the one thing they actually boasted about. The pathetic excuse for air conditioning. Its broke it leaks it never bloody works. These metros have been nothing short of a sh!tshow since they entered service. Constant problems here there & everywhere 


Butttttt dont worry. Cause some suck up is gonna say "but its teething issues"

No it aint. They are built horrible and ran by the worst company known to man

Not going to comment on the new ones as it's too early to tell but the old trains were knackered. They were just posh trams and ran well beyond their design life. I'd take broken aircon over the heating on full blast which was common.

Stadler trains are generally alright though, unlike cheap as ***** (CAF) trains. The new CAF trains for the DLR are a genuine shambles.

(11 Jul 2026, 10:32 pm)Storx wrote Not going to comment on the new ones as it's too early to tell but the old trains were knackered. They were just posh trams and ran well beyond their design life. I'd take broken aircon over the heating on full blast which was common.

Stadler trains are generally alright though, unlike cheap as ***** (CAF) trains. The new CAF trains for the DLR are a genuine shambles.

I have to agree, the old Metrocars were state of the art when they were new, a revelation after the old dmus on the N Tyne loop and South Shields lines. They served these routes and extensions well but as they aged they were not as reliable and were ready for withdrawal.
The new Metrocars are lovely to ride on and I haven’t had a bad run yet. The only gripe I have is the narrow seats and that they are all facing inwards, but it is a small gripe. 
As for the builder, I was delighted when Stadler were announced as the winners. I have travelled over the years in Switzerland and presently a lot of the trains there are built by Stadler and they are superb - double deckers, single deckers, Inter City, high speed and local trains plus trams, narrow gauge and normal gauge. Any teething problems here I would presume would be the extra design features by Nexus.

(04 Jul 2026, 9:24 pm)Nerd4321 wrote So gne attempts today were somewhat how shall I put this lightly without annoying someone

Ah yes

Absolutely dreadful

The first attempt to run both Toontours went horrible

6995 manged ONE trip. Well replace it with 6993. NOOOOO cant so that. 6101 is good enough. And then 6993 was put on

3 buses did 1 running board today.


How terrible do you have to be at running a bus company it takes 3 buses to run an open topper service

While on the topic. Is Kimmy having words with GNE the fact they are getting "funding of the government" for new state of the sh!t buses that they cant even allocate them anymore. Pathetic

(11 Jul 2026, 6:20 pm)Nerd4321 wrote The old ones were at least reliable. We have been sent broken promises by nexus for these new metros saying there offer the best & future yet cant seem to get the one thing they actually boasted about. The pathetic excuse for air conditioning. Its broke it leaks it never bloody works. These metros have been nothing short of a sh!tshow since they entered service. Constant problems here there & everywhere 

Butttttt dont worry. Cause some suck up is gonna say "but its teething issues"

No it aint. They are built horrible and ran by the worst company known to man

Errr... no they weren't! 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-66210398
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgl6pp8gg85o
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-64962083
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nor...k-27324521

No one can doubt that they've been a workhorse for the region for decades, but people will only judge them by their last experiences in them. For the best part of the last 10 years, they've been problematic and super unreliable, with Metro themselves admitting it's a battle to keep them on the rails. We even lost the peak extras due to Metro not being able to supply enough stock.

On the modern units, my only real issue with them is the lack of overhead grab rails. That's a real design flaw when the units are crowded. Everything else about them is a notable improvement on what we had, including the air conditioning, which I found really effective even during a heatwave. It actually works better than I thought it would do, because unlike say a car on an Azuma, the air conditioning in the 555 cars isn't operating in a sealed environment. Every time those doors open at a station, warm air is coming back in.

You may think 'teething issues' is people sucking up to Metro, but anyone who has worked within any kind of systems, development or infrastructure role knows that it's often part and parcel to getting the service right.

(12 Jul 2026, 3:19 pm)Adrian wrote Errr... no they weren't! 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-66210398
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgl6pp8gg85o
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-64962083
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nor...k-27324521

No one can doubt that they've been a workhorse for the region for decades, but people will only judge them by their last experiences in them. For the best part of the last 10 years, they've been problematic and super unreliable, with Metro themselves admitting it's a battle to keep them on the rails. We even lost the peak extras due to Metro not being able to supply enough stock.

On the modern units, my only real issue with them is the lack of overhead grab rails. That's a real design flaw when the units are crowded. Everything else about them is a notable improvement on what we had, including the air conditioning, which I found really effective even during a heatwave. It actually works better than I thought it would do, because unlike say a car on an Azuma, the air conditioning in the 555 cars isn't operating in a sealed environment. Every time those doors open at a station, warm air is coming back in.

You may think 'teething issues' is people sucking up to Metro, but anyone who has worked within any kind of systems, development or infrastructure role knows that it's often part and parcel to getting the service right.

people are comparing a train made in the 1970s to a train made in the 2020s... back then much more money was put into things like this and it was treated millions of times more important. the quality of our new metros are great when compared to other recent trains. its a very different time now politically, honestly were lucky with what we got because metros certainly aren't putting money in the pockets of oil companies.