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RE: Northstar
(20 Apr 2026, 1:05 am)cr51xln wrote Only thing Stagecoach did differently during similar roadworks in the same place was have a duty manager start a journey on time in a spare bus, and swap buses where we met coming the other way, and they finished the late running journey... or they'd cover an entire journey to allow drivers to start their breaks on time.

Stagecoach were not paid to provide that fourth bus and driver, and only provided them where there was about to be lost mileage or drivers being late for their breaks (as the 18 drivers were also 317 drivers, another secured contract - where delays on either could affect each other). This was never done on any other routes at the depot, and lost mileage was just an everyday occurrence on the commercial services - but where's the bustimes analysts for those?

Hear, hear!
RE: Northstar
(19 Apr 2026, 11:23 pm)NEtransport wrote Yes, rubbish. There’s no reason why the company couldn’t have put a new timetable or details of which services are missing St Peter’s Basin alongside the post.

You keep having a dig at Stagecoach but it was a lot better than the current service!!

Did you ever try and use the Stagecoach 18? I did, on a number of occasions. Emphasis on the word try. 

Never rocked up when it was meant to, to the point that on the three or four times I attempted to use it I was always on a different service or found myself walking. 

Buses either sped to try and keep time, or were unable to speed because Stagecoach allocated the worst things they had to it. They always allocated scruffy, soiled, old E400s. 

I’m struggling to see why people saw the Stagecoach 18 as some sort of utopia where it, like most of their services, was borderline unusable.
RE: Northstar
imo if I was running that service commercially, I'd be pulling it from the area completely and putting the blame directly onto Newcastle City Council.

They're the ones who should be getting the blame, since any roadworks they do take way way, just to emphasise this, way way way way way longer than it should.

What are they doing, replacing a few lights and moving some curbs? This shouldn't be taking months with no doubt no-one working (as usual).

Alternatively, Newcastle City Council should be funding a 4th bus into the rota, with an additional bus on the Q3 aswell - to compromise for their issues.
RE: Northstar
(19 Apr 2026, 11:23 pm)NEtransport wrote Yes, rubbish. There’s no reason why the company couldn’t have put a new timetable or details of which services are missing St Peter’s Basin alongside the post.

You keep having a dig at Stagecoach but it was a lot better than the current service!!

Okay so let's say if Stagecoach had kept the 18 in the tenders in March. Would you be complain then or is it you think Northstar are a bad company for running a service late due to Newcastle City Council deciding to do these works and not notifying Nexus or Northstar 

It seems your taking potshots at Northstar for reasons that its entirely there fault for this. Its there fault there running late

You can clearly see from response in here the 18 is a horrible time services with the whole thing being a neuxs contract from which Nexus whoever does the timetable seems to not know how to make it work. 

The 18 under Stagecoach wasn't perfect either yet you have came on here to complain they are running late due to a 5 way traffic lights system causing problems and think "yes I'll pin the blame on Northstar for everything"
RE: Northstar
(14 Apr 2026, 5:44 pm)220631612 wrote You’re not looking at the full picture just a small part of it. The St Peter’s Basin lights don’t help (especially with the build up of traffic on Bolam Way/Raby Street which the Q3 doesn’t serve). The timetable of the 18 has been unachievable for years now but Stagecoach never raised the issue with Nexus which has led to this debacle.

Well, this statement is just completely incorrect because last year the timetable was changed twice in the same year because of timing issues.

(20 Apr 2026, 6:09 am)PH - BQA wrote Did you ever try and use the Stagecoach 18? I did, on a number of occasions. Emphasis on the word try. 

Never rocked up when it was meant to, to the point that on the three or four times I attempted to use it I was always on a different service or found myself walking. 

Buses either sped to try and keep time, or were unable to speed because Stagecoach allocated the worst things they had to it. They always allocated scruffy, soiled, old E400s. 

I’m struggling to see why people saw the Stagecoach 18 as some sort of utopia where it, like most of their services, was borderline unusable.
The 18 is my local, I use it daily and it was rarely late with Stagecoach. I'm seeing a lot of false narratives regarding the 18 under Stagecoach.
RE: Northstar
(20 Apr 2026, 9:25 am)SN69 ZRC wrote Well, this statement is just completely incorrect because last year the timetable was changed twice in the same year because of timing issues.

The 18 is my local, I use it daily and it was rarely late with Stagecoach. I'm seeing a lot of false narratives regarding the 18 under Stagecoach.

Must have been a different 18 to the one I tried to use then. I still see it on my commute now, ran by Northstar, and it seems slightly more punctual in the peaks than it did when Stagecoach ran it. 

Could you point to a specific false narrative raised regarding the Stagecoach operation of the service? All points I’ve raised have been accurate, and truthfully most of the points apply to most of their operation.
RE: Northstar
(19 Apr 2026, 11:23 pm)NEtransport wrote Yes, rubbish. There’s no reason why the company couldn’t have put a new timetable or details of which services are missing St Peter’s Basin alongside the post.

You keep having a dig at Stagecoach but it was a lot better than the current service!!

Surely it's Nexus that should be doing all that before today? It's thier service after all.

If this was a Gateshead Central Taxis or JH Coaches service, nobody would know at all as Nexus don't have a public bus presence. I think that really poor from an authority responsible for millions of pounds of bus contracts.
RE: Northstar
(20 Apr 2026, 9:34 am)PH - BQA wrote Must have been a different 18 to the one I tried to use then. I still see it on my commute now, ran by Northstar, and it seems slightly more punctual in the peaks than it did when Stagecoach ran it. 

Could you point to a specific false narrative raised regarding the Stagecoach operation of the service? All points I’ve raised have been accurate, and truthfully most of the points apply to most of their operation.

Well for one, everyone claiming Stagecoach's service 18 was just as bad when it was evidently more on time. I don't see how Northstar are more punctual than Stagecoach when Stagecoach ran it on time more often. I'm afraid you don't seem to know what punctual means.

Another claim was that Stagecoach never notified Nexus regarding timetable issues; but they did. As I mentioned previously, there was two timetable changes in the same year due to timetable issues.

And while I understand Northstars situation and understand why they don't, Stagecoach were overall more punctual by being able to put a fourth bus on when needed.

On Sundays and evenings, some drivers are still forgetting to serve BT on the rare scheduled trips via BT, that's not very punctual.

I'm not at all blaming Northstar for being less punctual, but I am however stating the facts that they are no where near Stagecoach level of punctuality on the 18s, like some of you are claiming.
RE: Northstar
(20 Apr 2026, 10:45 am)SN69 ZRC wrote Well for one, everyone claiming Stagecoach's service 18 was just as bad when it was evidently more on time. I don't see how Northstar are more punctual than Stagecoach when Stagecoach ran it on time more often. I'm afraid you don't seem to know what punctual means.

Another claim was that Stagecoach never notified Nexus regarding timetable issues; but they did. As I mentioned previously, there was two timetable changes in the same year due to timetable issues.

And while I understand Northstars situation and understand why they don't, Stagecoach were overall more punctual by being able to put a fourth bus on when needed.

On Sundays and evenings, some drivers are still forgetting to serve BT on the rare scheduled trips via BT, that's not very punctual.

I'm not at all blaming Northstar for being less punctual, but I am however stating the facts that they are no where near Stagecoach level of punctuality on the 18s, like some of you are claiming.

Having worked in multiple industries which rely on extremely high levels of punctuality, I’m more than aware of the definition. If I followed the Stagecoach approach to punctuality I’d have been sacked long ago. 

Do you have any actual evidence for the Stagecoach operation being more on time? 

As I say, I tried to use it 4 times for part of my commute and each time it didn’t turn up when it was meant to. I frequently saw it on my lunch break too, late the majority of the time. I’ve used the Northstar service twice due to torrential rain, and both times it’s actually been waiting time when I got on. 

How often did Stagecoach put this elusive 4th bus into action? Evidently all the times I tried to use the service, or saw crippled old E400s with a queue behind them crawling up Freeman Road, they weren’t using them. 

Unless you’re involved in the inner workings of Stagecoach, which would explain the heavy bias on show here, then I’d query how you’d know how often they raised punctuality concerns with Nexus? 

As I’ve said elsewhere, Stagecoach don’t even seem capable of adjusting their own timetables to account for late running hotspots. As a prime example of this, majority of PM peak express departures from Eldon Square leave late and are even worse by the first timing point as they’ve put no extra time in to account for the traffic on the A167. 

I can’t comment on BT as I’m not watching bustimes 24 hours a day, but once again Stagecoach are hardly holier-than-thou in that regard. 

I don’t think I’ve ever said Northstar are operating this fully to time, and they themselves have been quite clear that they aren’t due to a number of circumstances, but this idea that Stagecoach were significantly better (in any regard) is completely untrue.
RE: Northstar
(20 Apr 2026, 10:24 am)Kimlfixit wrote Surely it's Nexus that should be doing all that before today? It's thier service after all.

If this was a Gateshead Central Taxis or JH Coaches service, nobody would know at all as Nexus don't have a public bus presence. I think that really poor from an authority responsible for millions of pounds of bus contracts.

And we shouldn't forget that the Bus Service Improvement Plan promised the introduction of "a single dedicated website and journey planner by March 2025.", which would supposedly feature "real time public transport information, including planned and unplanned disruption."

It's a good job Northstar have a website and good social media presence, otherwise as you say, nobody would know at all.
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RE: Northstar
(20 Apr 2026, 1:33 pm)Adrian wrote And we shouldn't forget that the Bus Service Improvement Plan promised the introduction of "a single dedicated website and journey planner by March 2025.", which would supposedly feature "real time public transport information, including planned and unplanned disruption."

It's a good job Northstar have a website and good social media presence, otherwise as you say, nobody would know at all.

Arriva website got updated. Similar styles to GNE website. However there updates are horrendous. They posted twice yesterday about the X20 & X12 not running till you click on it and just states 1 journey wont run
RE: Northstar
(20 Apr 2026, 1:33 pm)Adrian wrote And we shouldn't forget that the Bus Service Improvement Plan promised the introduction of "a single dedicated website and journey planner by March 2025.", which would supposedly feature "real time public transport information, including planned and unplanned disruption."

It's a good job Northstar have a website and good social media presence, otherwise as you say, nobody would know at all.

If Nexus are to be the delivery body for franchising, they really need to start behaving like a bus company in terms of service information and updates for it's own services. 

Non of this stuff is hard to do!
RE: Northstar
(20 Apr 2026, 2:08 pm)Kimlfixit wrote If Nexus are to be the delivery body for franchising, they really need to start behaving like a bus company in terms of service information and updates for it's own services. 

Non of this stuff is hard to do!

Funnily enough when looking at registered trademarks for the "Angel Network", the NECA did file a trademark for "LinkedUp Portal" (oh lord), but it was filed and then withdrawn in 2024: https://trademarks.ipo.gov.uk/ipo-tmcase...0004095997

Edit - it was for this: https://linkupportal.northeast-ca.gov.uk/ - still ugh.
RE: Northstar
I think as per usual the biggest problem creator is nexus.

They state the contract vehicles, timetables and companies to be used. 

Just remember we have had these same conversations about Nexus timetables being so unreliable that they may as well not have one on the 317, 701 and now the 18. Just to name a few.

The 701 has quietly had a timetable frequency reduction to 20 mins from 15 mins to account for delays. But they didn't tell anyone. The delays are only partially due to City Transports vehicles. Even when GNE were running them they were extremely delayed daily.

Also I'm surprised Stagecoach weren't in the running to get the emergency contract considering they could've temporarily used their yutongs to make the contract viable not needing fuel.
RE: Northstar
Improved timetable on service 18 from Monday 27 April
https://northstarbus.co.uk/news/article.php?id=43

In partnership with Nexus, we have developed a new timetable, using real-time information to review in detail how long journeys actually take, taking into account passenger loadings and traffic congestion.

From Monday 27 April, a new timetable will be introduced on service 18, which can be viewed here.

A summary of the changes is outlined below:
  • Once per hour, service 18 will be revised to terminate at Four Lane Ends on Monday to Saturday daytimes. Benton Estate will continue to be served hourly.
  • Due to the low number of passengers travelling between 9:00am and 3:00pm, BT Call Centre will be omitted during these times. It will continue to be served in the morning and afternoon, Monday to Saturday.
  • Minor timetable changes will be made throughout Monday to Saturday daytimes
  • On weekdays, the 07:42 service from Walker to Quorum will run direct from BT Call Centre to Quorum via Balliol Bus Link. Passengers for Four Lane Ends can remain on the bus on arrival at Quorum to get to Four Lane Ends.
  • To improve reliability during school holidays when there is less traffic congestion, the 07:22 service from Four Lane Ends to Walker will run up to 10 minutes later than during school term-time.
  • Service 18 will continue to serve St Peter's Basin on an hourly basis, Monday to Saturday, for the duration of the roadworks.
  • The timetable will remain the same on evenings and Sundays, but for the duration of the roadworks at St Peter's Basin, which continue to impact the reliability of service 18, we will have additional spare buses at Four Lane Ends to ensure more prompt departures.

We apologise for the delays which our buses have suffered since we took over the contract during March, and thank you for your patience.

Nexus has undertaken detailed analysis of where customers are travelling to and from, and whilst we are disappointed to announce a frequency reduction on some sections of the route, we can add additional running and recovery time to the timetable by making these changes, ensuring that the service operates more reliably in the areas where most customers travel.

Sensible changes imo. Hopefully it'll improve reliability as expected, without further cost to deliver the service.
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