I think the number of people actually travelling all the way from Birtley to Heworth woud be fairly small, no? Besides, the 82 or its new variants doesn't make sense to use all the way to Heworth from Washington. The 4 is much more direct.

Noticed that there is a mistake on the new timetable for the 81/2/3/4. It has the number 83 as going to Heworth and the 84 as terminating at Concord, above where it shows the times of the first journeys Monday to Friday: - https://assets.goaheadbus.com/media/cms_...17_WEB.pdf

(26 Jun 2017, 12:44 am)Washingtonian wrote Noticed that there is a mistake on the new timetable for the 81/2/3/4. It has the number 83 as going to Heworth and the 84 as terminating at Concord, above where it shows the times of the first journeys Monday to Friday: - https://assets.goaheadbus.com/media/cms_...17_WEB.pdf

Better than the 4 one did a few months ago, 1824->1906 was repeated twice, leaving some quite misleading times displayed. The penshaw short was shown at least twice

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Just found this on the Go North East twitter page: https://twitter.com/X10Social/status/879735115366236160

Now if what they have heard turns out to be true, it would allow them to get out of the need for a tachograph by splitting the X9 at Peterlee and X10 at Dalton Park - perfectly coinciding with new vehicles too!

(27 Jun 2017, 7:44 pm)S813 FVK wrote Just found this on the Go North East twitter page: https://twitter.com/X10Social/status/879735115366236160

Now if what they have heard turns out to be true, it would allow them to get out of the need for a tachograph by splitting the X9 at Peterlee and X10 at Dalton Park - perfectly coinciding with new vehicles too!

Can't see the X10 stopping at dalton park unless extra bus gets put on, dalton park is a nightmare when it gets packed,there's been talk for years since the original X7 started up about splitting the service in peterlee area.


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How/where do the buses turn at Newbrough?

(28 Jun 2017, 1:24 pm)G-CPTN wrote How/where do the buses turn at Newbrough?

Here:
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@55.005688...312!8i6656

(28 Jun 2017, 3:17 pm)Dan wrote Here:
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@55.005688...312!8i6656

Thanks - but it looks difficult for a full-size bus.

H&S - someone to watch the driver reversing?

I don't know why but I assumed the 554 was Nexus as opposed to commercial.

it always seemed such a pointless service that only ever really gets passengers if it gets in ahead of the 555

(28 Jun 2017, 10:01 pm)Ambassador wrote I don't know why but I assumed the 554 was Nexus as opposed to commercial.

it always seemed such a pointless service that only ever really gets passengers if it gets in ahead of the 555

Couldn't it be supplied with contract from Quorum? I agree that it would appear odd if it was fully commercial.

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Zooming you to Sunderland International Airshow – 21-23 July

http://newsroom.gonortheast.co.uk/news/z...uly-249192

Nexus have uploaded the new 700 timetable for the Summer...

https://www.nexus.org.uk/sites/default/f...080717.pdf

Starts 8th July and the changes include:


1. Diverted to Roker
2. Every 20 minutes instead of every 15 minutes
3. Every 30 minutes on Saturday instead of every 15
4. Every 30 minutes on a Sunday


701 - withdrawn until September


Go North East timetable: https://assets.goaheadbus.com/media/cms_...%20700.pdf

Loads of school services canceled on VOSA today (too many to copy and paste over) however i spotted these:



PB0003954/31 Cancelled
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Newcastle Eldon Sq to Middlesborough BS via Heworth Metro
Service number: X10 (X9)
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 03 Sep 2017


PB0003954/794 Cancelled
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Durham North Road, Opp Bus Station to Carrville High Street, "Dene Drive"
Service number: N20
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 03 Sep 2017

(13 Jul 2017, 4:42 pm)park5354 wrote Look out for a new registration, probably coinciding with the introduction of new buses !!!!

One of them going via Dalton Park by any chance!?, that seems to be rumoured a lot haha, Would be a good idea to divert one that way, in line with competition the X55, on a Saturday, least its a more regular service then and opens up new links.

Edit:

I did some digging and found these:


Seems they had one in for the X9 or X10 to go via Dalton Park but was withdrawn........




Wonder if it'll be re-registered so its on one page so.... Newcastle - Middlesbough via Peterlee, Dalton Park instead of:

Newcastle - Dalton Park
Dalton Park - Middlesbrough

I think that it would be the X10 that would be sent into Dalton Park.

The 2 registrations that you have posted make it clear to me that they are looking to split the services to avoid the use of a tachograph. The X9 can be split at Peterlee but the X10 can't be split from the Peterlee slip-road but can be at Dalton Park, as shown by Stagecoach's X55.

(13 Jul 2017, 8:30 pm)S813 FVK wrote I think that it would be the X10 that would be sent into Dalton Park.

The 2 registrations that you have posted make it clear to me that they are looking to split the services to avoid the use of a tachograph. The X9 can be split at Peterlee but the X10 can't be split from the Peterlee slip-road but can be at Dalton Park, as shown by Stagecoach's X55.

The X55 doesn't stop on A19 sliproad anyway, nothing wrong with splitting the X10 on peterlee sliproad as there's a bus stop at this location.


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PB0003954/824 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Dalton Park to Middlesbrough Bus Station
Service number: X9 (X10)
Service type: Limited Stop, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 03 Sep 2017

PB0003954/823 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Newcastle, Eldon Square Bus Station to Peterlee, Bus Station
Service number: X9 (X10)
Service type: Limited Stop, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 03 Sep 2017

PB0003954/822 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Durham South Road Colleges to Newcastle, Pilgrim Street
Service number: N21
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 03 Sep 2017

PB0003954/807 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Durham to Newcastle via Framwellgate Moor, Birtley, Low Fell
Service number: 21
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 03 Sep 2017

PB0003954/801 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Durham Bus Station to South Shields, Market
Service number: 20,20A (X20)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 03 Sep 2017

PB0003954/764 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Bishop Auckland, Bus Station to Newcastle, Eldon Square Bus Station
Service number: X21
Service type: Limited Stop, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 03 Sep 2017

PB0003954/737 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Langley Park, Stringer Terrace to Durham, Millburngate
Service number: 13 (14)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 03 Sep 2017

PB0003954/735 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Stanley, Bus Station to Sunderland, Park Lane Interchange
Service number: 8 (8A)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 03 Sep 2017

PB0003954/733 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Houghton-Le-Spring, The Broadway to Heworth Interchange
Service number: 4
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 03 Sep 2017

(14 Jul 2017, 12:54 pm)cbma06 wrote The X55 doesn't stop on A19 sliproad anyway, nothing wrong with splitting the X10 on peterlee sliproad as there's a bus stop at this location.


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I may be wrong but i think there is criteria on which stops can be used when splitting services and i believe that the A19 sliproad does not meet this.

(14 Jul 2017, 1:48 pm)S813 FVK wrote I may be wrong but i think there is criteria on which stops can be used when splitting services and i believe that the A19 sliproad does not meet this.

Ok [emoji4]


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(14 Jul 2017, 1:10 pm)markydh wrote PB0003954/824 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Dalton Park to Middlesbrough Bus Station
Service number: X9 (X10)
Service type: Limited Stop, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 03 Sep 2017

PB0003954/823 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Newcastle, Eldon Square Bus Station to Peterlee, Bus Station
Service number: X9 (X10)
Service type: Limited Stop, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 03 Sep 2017

Would think an extra bus would be needed for the X9/X10 now?, so the PVR would increase to 7.

(14 Jul 2017, 6:48 pm)Michael wrote Would think an extra bus would be needed for the X9/X10 now?, so the PVR would increase to 7.

yup

(14 Jul 2017, 7:12 pm)citaro5284 wrote yup

Glad they've finally decided to divert one of them to Dalton Park, it'll open new links, and with Dalton Park now open until later, should be a good move.

It'll do better than the X55.

(14 Jul 2017, 7:25 pm)Michael wrote Glad they've finally decided to divert one of them to Dalton Park, it'll open new links, and with Dalton Park now open until later, should be a good move.

It'll do better than the X55.

The X55 is too infrequent to survive. The long one stands half a chance, but only for people who want to spend the working dqy in Newcastle on Satuday only. Most people wanting a bus to Newcastle for work wil have a GNE weeky or monthly pass, for that route. You could probably count them on the fingers of one hand and still pick your nose on both sides with the spares.

(14 Jul 2017, 11:18 pm)BusLoverMum wrote The X55 is too infrequent to survive. The long one stands half a chance, but only for people who want to spend the working dqy in Newcastle on Satuday only. Most people wanting a bus to Newcastle for work wil have a GNE weeky or monthly pass, for that route. You could probably count them on the fingers of one hand and still pick your nose on both sides with the spares.

Does anyone know how the X55 is doing?

Just hope diverting the X10 to Dalton Park doesn't cause chaos for the people who use it.

(15 Jul 2017, 11:43 am)Michael wrote Does anyone know how the X55 is doing?

Just hope diverting the X10 to Dalton Park doesn't cause chaos for the people who use it.

Can't see the X10 interfering with the passenger numbers on the X55, it's mostly stagecoach Hartlepool territory passengers that would use it.


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(15 Jul 2017, 11:43 am)Michael wrote Does anyone know how the X55 is doing?

Just hope diverting the X10 to Dalton Park doesn't cause chaos for the people who use it.

Aye you right there Michael, going southbound, you have to pass it to come off the A19 and then double back slightly don't you ?

(15 Jul 2017, 11:48 am)cbma06 wrote Can't see the X10 interfering with the passenger numbers on the X55, it's mostly stagecoach Hartlepool territory passengers that would use it.


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Na i don't either.

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(15 Jul 2017, 11:49 am)citaro5284 wrote Aye you right there Michael, going southbound, you have to pass it to come off the A19 and then double back slightly don't you ?

Think so, not sure on the roads around that way tbh.

(15 Jul 2017, 11:49 am)citaro5284 wrote Aye you right there Michael, going southbound, you have to pass it to come off the A19 and then double back slightly don't you ?

Yes, I didn't think it was by much but having looked on Google maps, it is much further:

(15 Jul 2017, 3:41 pm)S813 FVK wrote Yes, I didn't think it was by much but having looked on Google maps, it is much further:

On a normal day by the time the X10 pulls off the A19 and gone into dalton park and back on the A19, the X10 would of already passed Peterlee, if there's an event on at dalton park then the X10 would probably of reached norton or Stockton by the time it rejoined A19, can see this as a bad idea, what's wrong with passengers alighting at A19 northbound and then jump on the X6 to dalton park at the same bus stop and doing southbound get off at moorcock and walk around the corner to jump on the X10 southbound


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(15 Jul 2017, 5:11 pm)cbma06 wrote On a normal day by the time the X10 pulls off the A19 and gone into dalton park and back on the A19, the X10 would of already passed Peterlee, if there's an event on at dalton park then the X10 would probably of reached norton or Stockton by the time it rejoined A19, can see this as a bad idea, what's wrong with passengers alighting at A19 northbound and then jump on the X6 to dalton park at the same bus stop and doing southbound get off at moorcock and walk around the corner to jump on the X10 southbound


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No where else to split X10 to put it on domestic hours. 

Personal opinion is that the route should be every 30 mins on Sunday route (ie all trips via Peterlee, Billingham and Stockton) allowing the split at Peterlee Bus Station, thus omitting Dalton Park.

Another solution for X10 could be to Run via A194(M), A182, Galleries, A182 to Hall Lane Estate then to Dalton Park.
or
X10 from Heworth via A194(M), A1(M), A183, A1052 to Houghton then via Hall Lane to Dalton Park.