(29 Jun 2026, 7:33 pm)MurdnunoC wrote Exactly which operators were 'bounced out' by the introduction of the X84 and X85? Can you please provide examples? 

With Jesmond closing, it really wasn't feasible for Arriva to operate the 685 from Blyth, so you can't argue that they were 'bounced out'.

Admittedly, it was GNE in the end who withdrew the X85 after covid due to travel pattern changes and also the need for normal service buses back on the X10 rather than coaches. But GNE did have the upper hand with the X84/X85 over the 685 before covid.

(29 Jun 2026, 9:01 pm)L469 YVK wrote Admittedly, it was GNE in the end who withdrew the X85 after covid due to travel pattern changes and also the need for normal service buses back on the X10 rather than coaches. But GNE did have the upper hand with the X84/X85 over the 685 before covid.

So, to summarise, no operator was 'bounced out' due to the introduction of the X84 or X85.