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Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2

Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2

RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
(18 Oct 2016, 9:25 pm)James101 wrote make a successful new depot.

That's a big step forward, requiring major investment.
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RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
(17 Oct 2016, 3:05 pm)Tom wrote Dan is the 9 definitely being run by Deptford? Wasn't sure if you had confirmed it or not.

If so I can see 5248/9 transferring out of Percy Main, one to Washington as a spare for the 5/50 and one to Riverside for the 12/12A maybe.

I hadn't previously confirmed, but yes, Deptford Drivers were informed about a month ago that they would be taking on all boards of service 9 (including those to North Shields), and have hence been route learning for the past few weeks.

In the interests of fleet standardisation at each depot (that old chestnut), I'd suggest it would make more sense for both 5248 and 5249 to transfer to Washington, replacing two L94s. Washington have now had this vehicle type in their fleet for six months, so know what the common defects are on this vehicle type and how to repair them quickly and efficiently (in terms of cost). All of the OmniCitys at Washington are having work done to them at the moment, hence the regular allocation of 4961-63 to the "Whey Aye Five 0" services.

That will mean Washington have one less vehicle type to worry about (the transfer of 4963 to Percy Main previously mentioned is still outstanding - ie there'd be no Scania L94s housed at Washington), and they can consistently allocate the same vehicle type to deputise for branded vehicles (5248/49 for services 5/50, 5324 for service 4, 3943 for service X1, 705 for the indiGo network, etc).
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
(19 Oct 2016, 5:10 am)Dan wrote I hadn't previously confirmed, but yes, Deptford Drivers were informed about a month ago that they would be taking on all boards of service 9 (including those to North Shields), and have hence been route learning for the past few weeks.

In the interests of fleet standardisation at each depot (that old chestnut), I'd suggest it would make more sense for both 5248 and 5249 to transfer to Washington, replacing two L94s. Washington have now had this vehicle type in their fleet for six months, so know what the common defects are on this vehicle type and how to repair them quickly and efficiently (in terms of cost). All of the OmniCitys at Washington are having work done to them at the moment, hence the regular allocation of 4961-63 to the "Whey Aye Five 0" services.

That will mean Washington have one less vehicle type to worry about (the transfer of 4963 to Percy Main previously mentioned is still outstanding - ie there'd be no Scania L94s housed at Washington), and they can consistently allocate the same vehicle type to deputise for branded vehicles (5248/49 for services 5/50, 5324 for service 4, 3943 for service X1, 705 for the indiGo network, etc).

Ah ok cheers Smile

Guessing it will be the B10s will be withdrawn from Percy Main as a result too.
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
(19 Oct 2016, 5:10 am)Dan wrote I hadn't previously confirmed, but yes, Deptford Drivers were informed about a month ago that they would be taking on all boards of service 9 (including those to North Shields), and have hence been route learning for the past few weeks.

In the interests of fleet standardisation at each depot (that old chestnut), I'd suggest it would make more sense for both 5248 and 5249 to transfer to Washington, replacing two L94s. Washington have now had this vehicle type in their fleet for six months, so know what the common defects are on this vehicle type and how to repair them quickly and efficiently (in terms of cost). All of the OmniCitys at Washington are having work done to them at the moment, hence the regular allocation of 4961-63 to the "Whey Aye Five 0" services.

That will mean Washington have one less vehicle type to worry about (the transfer of 4963 to Percy Main previously mentioned is still outstanding - ie there'd be no Scania L94s housed at Washington), and they can consistently allocate the same vehicle type to deputise for branded vehicles (5248/49 for services 5/50, 5324 for service 4, 3943 for service X1, 705 for the indiGo network, etc).

I would imagine the 2 Scania's from Percy Main will go to Deptford as spares?, as IF the 9 is going to be ran by Deptford Scania's they'll only be 2 left overall, after the 9, X36 and 39 allocations?

So sending the Scania's to Deptford seems logicaly..

Is the 9 still interworking with scholars, just checking as the timetable suggests its not.
Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
PB0002400/623 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Heworth Interchange
Finish Point: South Hylton Metro
Via:
Service Number: 901
Service Type: Limited Stop
Effective Date: 20-NOV-2016
Other Details: 20th November 2016 only
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RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
(22 Oct 2016, 1:52 pm)stagecoachbusdepot wrote Anyone know why the new 2/2A timetable is just plain GNE rather than Simplicity branded?  

Or why there's no new 39 timetable, despite it being only available on a soon to be out of date 2/2A/39 leaflet?

God knows, maybe its a hint the Versa's are coming off the 2/2A (one can always hope!)



There's no new 39 timetable because the only change is the runs which are currently ran by Washington are going to be ran by Deptford... but i have to agree, they should take the current timetable off and replace it with just one for the 39.
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RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
(23 Oct 2016, 10:54 am)Michael wrote God knows, maybe its a hint the Versa's are coming off the 2/2A (one can always hope!)

I heard a rumour that Mercs may be coming onto them
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
(23 Oct 2016, 6:08 pm)Brian13 wrote I heard a rumour that Mercs may be coming onto them

Brand new mercs with Silver Arrows Branding I hope, hate the Versas and the awful Simplicity Branding with a passion.
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
(23 Oct 2016, 6:08 pm)Brian13 wrote I heard a rumour that Mercs may be coming onto them

I don't use the 2/2A services at all now but would welcome Mercs back on the route...

However i think the Citaro's from the Blaydon Racers (if they do get streetlites, not confirmed at all) will end up on the new X5/X6 so they're inline with the X7, offering decent buses plus WIFI.


2 Citaro's remain on the X7
2 Citaro move to the X6 from Wear Tees
1 Citaro from Blaydon Racers moves on to the X6
7 Citaro's on the X5 from the Blaydon Racers


Leaves 2 Citaro's from the Blaydon Racers as spares - one for the X5/X6/X7.

1 remains at Riverside.


From earlier, these were my guesses for the PVR:

7 for the X5 as of now 
3 for the X6
2 for the X7
Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
(23 Oct 2016, 6:32 pm)Michael wrote I don't use the 2/2A services at all now but would welcome Mercs back on the route...

However i think the Citaro's from the Blaydon Racers (if they do get streetlites, not confirmed at all) will end up on the new X5/X6 so they're inline with the X7, offering decent buses plus WIFI.


2 Citaro's remain on the X7
2 Citaro move to the X6 from Wear Tees
1 Citaro from Blaydon Racers moves on to the X6
7 Citaro's on the X5 from the Blaydon Racers


Leaves 2 Citaro's from the Blaydon Racers as spares - one for the X5/X6/X7.

1 remains at Riverside.


From earlier, these were my guesses for the PVR:

7 for the X5 as of now 
3 for the X6
2 for the X7


Even though I would prefer citarios for service X5/X6 and X7, since service X7 will be Sunderland to peterlee only, I think solos would be enough and have service X6 as the bigger bus.


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RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
PB0003954/521 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Prudhoe Castle Road and Ovington Village Green given service number 686 effective from 12-Nov-2016. To amend Timetable.
PB0003954/689 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Matfen Black Bull and Newcastle Eldon Square Bus Station given service number 74 effective from 13-Nov-2016. To amend Timetable.
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
(27 Oct 2016, 10:24 am)cbma06 wrote Even though I would prefer citarios for service X5/X6 and X7, since service X7 will be Sunderland to peterlee only, I think solos would be enough and have service X6 as the bigger bus.


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I hope not... to me that's a downgrade and will give Arriva with an advantage...
Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
(19 Oct 2016, 5:10 am)Dan wrote I hadn't previously confirmed, but yes, Deptford Drivers were informed about a month ago that they would be taking on all boards of service 9 (including those to North Shields), and have hence been route learning for the past few weeks.

In the interests of fleet standardisation at each depot (that old chestnut), I'd suggest it would make more sense for both 5248 and 5249 to transfer to Washington, replacing two L94s. Washington have now had this vehicle type in their fleet for six months, so know what the common defects are on this vehicle type and how to repair them quickly and efficiently (in terms of cost). All of the OmniCitys at Washington are having work done to them at the moment, hence the regular allocation of 4961-63 to the "Whey Aye Five 0" services.

That will mean Washington have one less vehicle type to worry about (the transfer of 4963 to Percy Main previously mentioned is still outstanding - ie there'd be no Scania L94s housed at Washington), and they can consistently allocate the same vehicle type to deputise for branded vehicles (5248/49 for services 5/50, 5324 for service 4, 3943 for service X1, 705 for the indiGo network, etc).

With it coming up to a week for the changes to X1 etc...


What will the allocation to be the 9 from the 6th November at Deptford?
Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
Just spotted a sign on the 353 that states from the 6th November the service will no longer go onto the Newcastle Airport site and only service stops on the Ponteland Road outside. There'll also be timetable changes during rush hour to improve reliability.
Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
(28 Oct 2016, 2:34 pm)Shrek wrote Just spotted a sign on the 353 that states from the 6th November the service will no longer go onto the Newcastle Airport site and only service stops on the Ponteland Road outside. There'll also be timetable changes during rush hour to improve reliability.


The timetable can be found on the GNE site and change details can be found within the 6th November changes article on the GNE site
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
(28 Oct 2016, 2:02 pm)Michael wrote With it coming up to a week for the changes to X1 etc...


What will the allocation to be the 9 from the 6th November at Deptford?

I'm guessing solars becasue they are probably perfect size for the 9 but I do hope the 9 gets route branding now or soon
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
(28 Oct 2016, 9:35 pm)Ds1197 wrote I'm guessing solars becasue they are probably perfect size for the 9 but I do hope the 9 gets route branding now or soon

Don't think it'll get branding now, PVR is dropping from 7 to 4.

But i think the 2 Solars from Washington will move to Deptford so the 9 can have a full Solar allocation.
Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
Will the 9 run like this when the changes happen?
 
Sunderland-Jarrow 
Jarrow-Sunderland 
Sunderland-North Shields 
North Shields-Jarrow
Jarrow-North Shields 
North Shields-Sunderland 

Then back to the start again.
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
(28 Oct 2016, 9:47 pm)Michael wrote Don't think it'll get branding now, PVR is dropping from 7 to 4.

But i think the 2 Solars from Washington will move to Deptford so the 9 can have a full Solar allocation.

The PVR is defiantly going to be more than 4, I worked it out the other week and I'm sure it was 6
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
(29 Oct 2016, 8:12 am)Dans_bus_photos wrote The PVR is defiantly going to be more than 4, I worked it out the other week and I'm sure it was 6

It was just a guess, you're probables right.

Hopefully not a mixed allocation...as i wonder where rest of the Scania's will come from?, the 2 from Washington seem like the only ones which which will come in as spares atm, if the 9 PVR is 6.


Deptford Solar allocations 

Service X35 - 7 PVR
X36 - 2 PVR
39 - 7 PVR


Currently leaves 6 spare - which will be took if the 9 is Solar allocated with a 6 PVR

Only other option is to:


2 from Washington as spares
2 from Riverside


The Solars seem to be allocated to the 36 a lot lately
Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
(29 Oct 2016, 12:52 am)Ds1197 wrote Will the 9 run like this when the changes happen?
 
Sunderland-Jarrow 
Jarrow-Sunderland 
Sunderland-North Shields 
North Shields-Jarrow
Jarrow-North Shields 
North Shields-Sunderland 

Then back to the start again.

Not sure, i think so.
Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
(29 Oct 2016, 9:30 am)Michael wrote It was just a guess, you're probables right.

Hopefully not a mixed allocation...as i wonder where rest of the Scania's will come from?, the 2 from Washington seem like the only ones which which will come in as spares atm, if the 9 PVR is 6.


Deptford Solar allocations 

Service X35 - 7 PVR
X36 - 2 PVR
39 - 7 PVR


Currently leaves 6 spare - which will be took if the 9 is Solar allocated with a 6 PVR

Only other option is to:


2 from Washington as spares
2 from Riverside


The Solars seem to be allocated to the 36 a lot lately

Well in future if your just guessing can you mark your posts accordingly
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
(18 Oct 2016, 9:26 pm)Michael wrote Ah right.

If the PVR is 4, (just a guess) GNE could run Scania's on it but that only leaves 2 spare at Deptford, meaning they'll likely need 1 more from else where.

As it looks like the "Red" scania's are remaining on the 39.

Dans_bus_photos, i did say on my OP about it was a guess, if u looked back.
Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
(29 Oct 2016, 2:59 pm)Greg in Weardale wrote Yes it looks like Ds1197 says, each vehicle does the complete cycle of workings taking six hours hence an off peak requirement of six buses.

I'm not really sure but the timetable makes it look like it works like that
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
(18 Oct 2016, 7:59 pm)Cock Robin wrote GNE don't have much success with their Teesside services do they. First the OK, now the X7. Shame.

Unless they've done some sort of 'deal' with Arriva. The X7 I saw today was well loaded leaving M'bro (as were many of the OKs at the time).