(07 Nov 2016, 8:43 am)LeeCalder wrote Does Chester'a 885 run onto anything? Just saw Lolyne 3872 on that service

On a morning, no.

Providing the bus stays on the same running board this afternoon, it will be allocated to scholars service 856 and 878, which does the 16:20 #X21 (Newcastle - Durham) journey.

(07 Nov 2016, 7:11 am)Ambassador wrote First proper ride on 6140 doing the honours on the 21.

Firstly, good ride, nice power and some added variety.

However, the trim on the seats is absolutely shocking, something I'd expect from GCT or a school bus company. Seats are dirty and completely worn, many are torn to bits,especially on corners. Really disappointing they've been allowed to enter service like this, especially on a high profile route

I do like the Omnidekkas, and have been pleasantly surprised with how they've performed (so far) up here. 

I do agree with you on the interior. Having used a handful of them down Brighton this year and last, I was surprised that they've made it into service up here, without being re-trimmed first. I can understand not willfully wasting money to have the GNE moquette if not required, but there should be no question about it being required in this instance. 

Just because they're second hand buses should not mean they must look like second hand buses. When the Vykings came up, the interior refurb made the world of difference.

(07 Nov 2016, 9:56 am)Adrian wrote I do like the Omnidekkas, and have been pleasantly surprised with how they've performed (so far) up here. 

I do agree with you on the interior. Having used a handful of them down Brighton this year and last, I was surprised that they've made it into service up here, without being re-trimmed first. I can understand not willfully wasting money to have the GNE moquette if not required, but there should be no question about it being required in this instance. 

Just because they're second hand buses should not mean they must look like second hand buses. When the Vykings came up, the interior refurb made the world of difference.

I believe the Scania OmniDekkas will be returning to Saltmeadows Road for a re-trim.

The reason why it wasn't done over the summer months related to the high amount of vehicles required for extra work taken on (and hence the requirement to get these buses on the road as soon as possible!)

No question about it being required, but the work had to be undertaken during a quieter period.

Can anyone tell me which boards the Red Kite deckers normally operate?  Thanks in anticipation.

(07 Nov 2016, 9:08 am)Dan wrote On a morning, no.

Providing the bus stays on the same running board this afternoon, it will be allocated to scholars service 856 and 878, which does the 16:20 #X21 (Newcastle - Durham) journey.

Thank you, Dan. Very much appreciated.

571 seems to have moved to Deptford for further service.

(07 Nov 2016, 3:57 pm)LeeCalder wrote Thank you, Dan. Very much appreciated.

Not on the aforementioned running board. Operated scholars service 888 this evening, which does the 1650 X21 after a short 93.

(07 Nov 2016, 3:55 pm)grandad wrote Can anyone tell me which boards the Red Kite deckers normally operate?  Thanks in anticipation.

Running Board 1

06:22 #15 (Consett - Durham)
07:00 #15 (Durham - Consett)
07:47 #45 (Consett - Newcastle)
09:20 #46 (Newcastle - Consett) 
etc until
18:40 #45 (Newcastle - Consett)


Running Board 2

05:36 #47 (Chopwell - Newcastle)
06:57 #47 (Blackhall Mill - Newcastle)
08:25 #45 (Newcastle - Consett)
09:47 #46 (Consett - Newcastle)
etc until
18:50 #47 (Newcastle - Blackhall Mill)


Running Board 3

05:57 #45 (Consett - Newcastle)
07:26 #47 (Blackhall Mill - Newcastle)
09:00 #45 (Newcastle - Consett)
10:17 #46 (Consett - Newcastle)
etc until
19:20 #45 (Newcastle - Consett)


Running Board 4

06:14 #47 (Chopwell Road - Newcastle)
07:10 #47 (Newcastle - Blackhall Mill)
08:02 #47 (Blackhall Mill - Newcastle)
09:30 #45 (Newcastle - Consett)
10:47 #46 (Consett - Newcastle)
etc until
17:15 #47 (Newcastle - Blackhall Mill)


I'm hoping you'll be able to work out the bits in the middle!

The buses are subject to be swapped over and replaced with other buses during the day if there are delays to service - but those are the boards they should be allocated to from start of play. Without looking back, I'd assume some of the afternoon departures get the buses in Consett before the scholars peak, just in case anything goes horribly wrong. They'd be able to remove one of those Volvo B9TLs from service and replace it with a single-deck or minibus.

However; as Robert can vouch for, the appearance of Volvo B9TLs on St. Bede's scholars services are few and far between.

(07 Nov 2016, 4:00 pm)streetlite5402 wrote 571 seems to have moved to Deptford for further service.

Not for further service: it will be used for route learning purposes at Peterlee, for the service changes taking place next month.

572 remains at Chester-le-Street, withdrawn, for now.

(07 Nov 2016, 4:07 pm)Dan wrote I'm hoping you'll be able to work out the bits in the middle!

The buses are subject to be swapped over and replaced with other buses during the day if there are delays to service - but those are the boards they should be allocated to from start of play. Without looking back, I'd assume some of the afternoon departures get the buses in Consett before the scholars peak, just in case anything goes horribly wrong. They'd be able to remove one of those Volvo B9TLs from service and replace it with a single-deck or minibus.

However; as Robert can vouch for, the appearance of Volvo B9TLs on St. Bede's scholars services are few and far between.

I certainly can!

As for the bits in the middle, do the Red Kites still have that extended layover in Consett that caused 5409 to be added to the PVR? If so would, for example, the 12:00 #45 from Newcastle getting to Consett at 13:02 go back out on the 13:27 45 to Newcastle or would it go onto the 13:17 46?

(07 Nov 2016, 4:48 pm)S813 FVK wrote I certainly can!

As for the bits in the middle, do the Red Kites still have that extended layover in Consett that caused 5409 to be added to the PVR? If so would, for example, the 12:00 #45 from Newcastle getting to Consett at 13:02 go back out on the 13:27 45 to Newcastle or would it go onto the 13:17 46?

(07 Nov 2016, 4:07 pm)Dan wrote Running Board 4

06:14 #47 (Chopwell Road - Newcastle)
07:10 #47 (Newcastle - Blackhall Mill)
08:02 #47 (Blackhall Mill - Newcastle)
09:30 #45 (Newcastle - Consett)
10:47 #46 (Consett - Newcastle)
etc until
17:15 #47 (Newcastle - Blackhall Mill)

The bits in the middle for the above running board are:

12:00 #45 (Newcastle - Consett)
13:17 #46 (Consett - Newcastle)
14:30 #45 (Newcastle - Consett)
15:54 #46 (Consett - Newcastle)

Without looking, I've no idea if the rest follow that pattern.

(07 Nov 2016, 5:02 pm)Dan wrote The bits in the middle for the above running board are:

12:00 #45 (Newcastle - Consett)
13:17 #46 (Consett - Newcastle)
14:30 #45 (Newcastle - Consett)
15:54 #46 (Consett - Newcastle)

Without looking, I've no idea if the rest follow that pattern.

Okay thanks - that will help, I might just work backwards and forwards at the same time until they meet then i'll probably know that I have it right.

(07 Nov 2016, 4:07 pm)Dan wrote Running Board 1

06:22 #15 (Consett - Durham)
07:00 #15 (Durham - Consett)
07:47 #45 (Consett - Newcastle)
09:20 #46 (Newcastle - Consett) 
etc until
18:40 #45 (Newcastle - Consett)


Running Board 2

05:36 #47 (Chopwell - Newcastle)
06:57 #47 (Blackhall Mill - Newcastle)
08:25 #45 (Newcastle - Consett)
09:47 #46 (Consett - Newcastle)
etc until
18:50 #47 (Newcastle - Blackhall Mill)


Running Board 3

05:57 #45 (Consett - Newcastle)
07:26 #47 (Blackhall Mill - Newcastle)
09:00 #45 (Newcastle - Consett)
10:17 #46 (Consett - Newcastle)
etc until
19:20 #45 (Newcastle - Consett)


Running Board 4

06:14 #47 (Chopwell Road - Newcastle)
07:10 #47 (Newcastle - Blackhall Mill)
08:02 #47 (Blackhall Mill - Newcastle)
09:30 #45 (Newcastle - Consett)
10:47 #46 (Consett - Newcastle)
etc until
17:15 #47 (Newcastle - Blackhall Mill)


I'm hoping you'll be able to work out the bits in the middle!

The buses are subject to be swapped over and replaced with other buses during the day if there are delays to service - but those are the boards they should be allocated to from start of play. Without looking back, I'd assume some of the afternoon departures get the buses in Consett before the scholars peak, just in case anything goes horribly wrong. They'd be able to remove one of those Volvo B9TLs from service and replace it with a single-deck or minibus.

However; as Robert can vouch for, the appearance of Volvo B9TLs on St. Bede's scholars services are few and far between.



Not for further service: it will be used for route learning purposes at Peterlee, for the service changes taking place next month.

572 remains at Chester-le-Street, withdrawn, for now.

Becoming more and more common on night 6s though. Stanley seems to have some slack for using these to replace omnidekkas with nee heating. They become taxis and run light to Stanley bus station at night, always one kicking about, so are swapped if needs be. Seen one on every day, sundays included, more than once in the past 2 months.

Although I'm sceptical that these are recorded as being used, it's certainly becoming more common and will undoubtedly be even more common in these winter months!

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(07 Nov 2016, 5:24 pm)Jamie M wrote Although I'm sceptical that these are recorded as being used, it's certainly becoming more common and will undoubtedly be even more common in these winter months!

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All allocations are recorded - it's an automatic process, based on the information the driver has to input into his/her ticket machine, in order to sell tickets.

From this data, reports can be generated to determine which journeys have been operated by a vehicle which is neither the preferred vehicle type for that service, or the preferred alternative vehicle type (if any). Further analysis can show the type of tickets which have been sold on that journey, how much cash has been taken by the driver, which stops tickets have been sold at, etc etc.

The aforementioned report picked up on the fact that Red Kite 6120 was allocated to three journeys on service 6 last night, as you noted. It's by no means a common thing - trust me!

You wouldn't believe the amount of things that go on behind the scenes of a bus company! 

(07 Nov 2016, 5:06 pm)S813 FVK wrote Okay thanks - that will help, I might just work backwards and forwards at the same time until they meet then i'll probably know that I have it right.

I appear to have now filled in all of the gaps - had a bit of bother with the last missing journey or two on Board 3 though but got there in the end.

I don't know why any of you will be interested but I thought i'd say something anyway

(07 Nov 2016, 5:38 pm)S813 FVK wrote I appear to have now filled in all of the gaps - had a bit of bother with the last missing journey or two on Board 3 though but got there in the end.

I don't know why any of you will be interested but I thought i'd say something anyway

You'll be working in Go North East's Commercial Department in no time!! 

(07 Nov 2016, 5:41 pm)Dan wrote You'll be working in Go North East's Commercial Department in no time!! 

Oh I wish - I find that stuff more appealing than the buses themselves if i'm totally honest. Its just a shame it isn't one of those areas where enthusiasts have access to every day.

Realy suprised the x36 is still going busy in mornings and evenings during the day u get a bout 2 to 3 passengers on more old people

(07 Nov 2016, 4:07 pm)Dan wrote Not for further service: it will be used for route learning purposes at Peterlee, for the service changes taking place next month.

572 remains at Chester-le-Street, withdrawn, for now.

572 was to be used for the route learning at Peterlee bus has develpoed a major fault.  It was brought to Deptford but will probably be scrapped now.  So 571 was brought over to be used instead.

(07 Nov 2016, 6:14 pm)Gnebuspro91 wrote Realy suprised the x36 is still going busy in mornings and evenings during the day u get a bout 2 to 3 passengers on more old people

I reckon it'll be axed whenever there's another round of service changes .

Today I travelled on a fab 56 decker, a drifter streetlite and a see it do it merc.

The latter even though is a lot older and has a few more miles on it was a much better quality journey.

(07 Nov 2016, 11:13 pm)idiot wrote Today I travelled on a fab 56 decker, a drifter streetlite and a see it do it merc.

The latter even though is a lot older and has a few more miles on it was a much better quality journey.

Thanks for that enthralling insight

No problem. Just to add that myself, like others, don't think the current selection of buses will last the same time..

(07 Nov 2016, 4:00 pm)streetlite5402 wrote 571 seems to have moved to Deptford for further service.

It's currently parked up at peterlee bus station on route learning.

(08 Nov 2016, 12:48 pm)BusLoverMum wrote It's currently parked up at peterlee bus station on route learning.

572 meanwhile has been parked up at the back of Saltmeadows Road.

Ok way MPD just went passed my house in hartlepool with driver learning on display

(08 Nov 2016, 2:21 pm)jaimz13 wrote Ok way MPD just went passed my house in hartlepool with driver learning on display

571

(08 Nov 2016, 2:27 pm)S813 FVK wrote 571

Yes lol

Are there doing route learning and driver familiarsation on 9 today?

5248 now at Washington. Currently on the 82 heading to concord

(08 Nov 2016, 4:12 pm)Ds1197 wrote Are there doing route learning and driver familiarsation on 9 today?

No.  It has already been done over the last 4 weeks for all Deptford drivers.  The route learning currently going on is for the Peterlee routes and changes.  Deptford will be supplying some drivers to Peterlee on a temporary basis.