(16 Feb 2020, 8:38 am)Citaro5338 wrote I want the Rail Replacement allocation today not the met reps

That's Arriva today not GNE

(16 Feb 2020, 1:16 pm)streetdeckfan wrote I mean, it's not a case of it not being convenient that the X21 doesn't run to West Auckland for another hour, it's a case of it costing passengers an extra £2+ and having to change to an Arriva bus at Bishop to get home! In which case, they might as well buy an Arriva day ticket and not bother with GNE at all.
As for them carrying air on the northbound returns, the last 2 that run to West Auckland already run light back to CLS so that's clearly not an issue

It might not be an issue for those runs, the cost of running light may be mitigated, covered or their margins minimal. 
Any more light runs may be beyond any limits imposed.

(16 Feb 2020, 2:22 pm)ifm001 wrote That's Arriva today not GNE

Go North East are on standby rail replacement today, using coaches.

What is the latest timescale for when the X Lines streetdecks are expected to appear?

(15 Feb 2020, 12:07 pm)JP6004 wrote I can see 57 going electric like the 53/54/58 but fair few citaros on the crusader that will need to be displaced too....

They would probably be useful on the 50.

(16 Feb 2020, 11:34 pm)BusLoverMum wrote They would probably be useful on the 50.

Was hoping for DD on the 50 but yes quite possibly

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Wasn't it said during the Facebook Live that they'll be starting to withdraw the Citaros soon?
They're heavy so expensive to run, parts are expensive and they're not that reliable

(16 Feb 2020, 11:39 pm)streetdeckfan wrote Wasn't it said during the Facebook Live that they'll be starting to withdraw the Citaros soon?
They're heavy so expensive to run, parts are expensive and they're not that reliable

Yes but omnis will go as well. I can see 06 plates being withdrawn and bluestar going to driver training

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(16 Feb 2020, 11:41 pm)JP6004 wrote Yes but omnis will go as well. I can see 06 plates being withdrawn and bluestar going to driver training

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I wonder if we'll see an order for more single deckers soon, there's been a lot of deckers ordered recently but not many singles.

(16 Feb 2020, 4:56 pm)Wybus wrote What is the latest timescale for when the X Lines streetdecks are expected to appear?

April


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(16 Feb 2020, 11:48 pm)streetdeckfan wrote I wonder if we'll see an order for more single deckers soon, there's been a lot of deckers ordered recently but not many singles.

Dont forget the DDs replaced the single decks, so although no singles were ordered, we've seen (going to see) all the L94 withdrawn along with omnis and maybe few citaros....not forgetting the solos

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(16 Feb 2020, 11:55 pm)JP6004 wrote Dont forget the DDs replaced the single decks, so although no singles were ordered, we've seen (going to see) all the L94 withdrawn along with omnis and maybe few citaros....not forgetting the solos

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That is true, they seem to alternate between buying singles and doubles, and it wasn't that long ago that they bought a large number of StreetLites so I suppose it is the turn of the deckers!

(16 Feb 2020, 11:55 pm)JP6004 wrote Dont forget the DDs replaced the single decks, so although no singles were ordered, we've seen (going to see) all the L94 withdrawn along with omnis and maybe few citaros....not forgetting the solos

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I think Dan said on the Facebook live that the Omnicities can get a Euro 6 upgrade so there will probably last longer than the Citaros

(17 Feb 2020, 7:36 am)Ds1197 wrote I think Dan said on the Facebook live that the Omnicities can get a Euro 6 upgrade so there will probably last longer than the Citaros

Yes for the ones at chester as they run services into newcastle. Nothing stopping them being distributed to other depots on services that don't go to newcastle.

I'd imagine the 3 a PM will be displaced

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(17 Feb 2020, 8:39 am)JP6004 wrote Yes for the ones at chester as they run services into newcastle. Nothing stopping them being distributed to other depots on services that don't go to newcastle.

I'd imagine the 3 a PM will be displaced

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Washington's ones also go into Newcaslte quite regularly

(17 Feb 2020, 9:58 am)Ds1197 wrote Washington's ones also go into Newcaslte quite regularly

Good job all of the Washington OmniCitys (apart from 5263) are now Euro 6 ready!

(17 Feb 2020, 10:16 am)Dan wrote Good job all of the Washington OmniCitys (apart from 5263) are now Euro 6 ready!

Are all omnis getting done or the ones just in corp? Didnt think Washington ones would be done as 99% of the time on services that do not enter Newcastle...

(17 Feb 2020, 4:15 pm)JP6004 wrote Are all omnis getting done or the ones just in corp? Didnt think Washington ones would be done as 99% of the time on services that do not enter Newcastle...

These are the only OmniCitys planned to be converted to Euro 6 for the time being. The OmniCitys are now 13 years old, and the funding allocated means that these buses will have to stay in the fleet for another three years (approx) based on vehicle mileage, remaining on the same route unless they're replaced with newer vehicles of the same Euro 6 emission standard.

As has been mentioned previously, with the current rate of investment, it's likely a large number of Scania OmniCity, and indeed a handful of Citaro, will be withdrawn this year.

This one is a joint initiative between Go North East and South Tyneside Council. It's important that operators don't completely forget about other operating areas besides Newcastle, just because they aren't going to have a clean air zone (for the time being).

(17 Feb 2020, 4:36 pm)Dan wrote These are the only OmniCitys planned to be converted to Euro 6 for the time being. The OmniCitys are now 13 years old, and the funding allocated means that these buses will have to stay in the fleet for another three years (approx) based on vehicle mileage, remaining on the same route unless they're replaced with newer vehicles of the same Euro 6 emission standard.

As has been mentioned previously, with the current rate of investment, it's likely a large number of Scania OmniCity, and indeed a handful of Citaro, will be withdrawn this year.

This one is a joint initiative between Go North East and South Tyneside Council. It's important that operators don't completely forget about other operating areas besides Newcastle, just because they aren't going to have a clean air zone (for the time being).

Cheers Dan.

Sorry i though you had said previously that Chesters omnis were due euro 6 upgrade.

(17 Feb 2020, 4:51 pm)JP6004 wrote Cheers Dan.

Sorry i though you had said previously that Chesters omnis were due euro 6 upgrade.

Not guilty!

(17 Feb 2020, 4:54 pm)Dan wrote Not guilty!

Probs just me getting confused

In other Washington news, the indiGo fleet has (finally) started to be updated in the new style, as shown in the photo below.

Vinyls removed from windows, the little 'indiGo' line vinyls have all been stripped from the bodywork, the cant rail has been vinyled over in black with a more generic message to future-proof against any potential future fleet movements, and a 'fares strip' added to the sun visor (there'll be a number of different variations).

Go North East indiGo 680 / NK16 BXY by kieron mathews, on Flickr

(17 Feb 2020, 4:36 pm)Dan wrote As has been mentioned previously, with the current rate of investment, it's likely a large number of Scania OmniCity, and indeed a handful of Citaro, will be withdrawn this year.

Gutted about the Citaro's, is it the way to the back of the bus is set, hence the reason why they can't be upgraded to euro 6?

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(17 Feb 2020, 7:29 pm)Dan wrote In other Washington news, the indiGo fleet has (finally) started to be updated in the new style, as shown in the photo below.

Vinyls removed from windows, the little 'indiGo' line vinyls have all been stripped from the bodywork, the cant rail has been vinyled over in black with a more generic message to future-proof against any potential future fleet movements, and a 'fares strip' added to the sun visor (there'll be a number of different variations).

Go North East indiGo 680 / NK16 BXY by kieron mathews, on Flickr

I liked the idea of having those multicoloured lines on side of the bus, looks plain now.

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(17 Feb 2020, 4:36 pm)Dan wrote This one is a joint initiative between Go North East and South Tyneside Council. It's important that operators don't completely forget about other operating areas besides Newcastle, just because they aren't going to have a clean air zone (for the time being).

Any other buses which enter South Tyne side getting the euro 6 modification?

2 questions in one posting there Michael....you are getting sneaky in your old age

(17 Feb 2020, 7:40 pm)citaro5284 wrote 2 questions in one posting there Michael....you are getting sneaky in your old age

Still doesn't mean I will answer them though!

He will have to wait until the next Facebook live... Hahaha!

(17 Feb 2020, 7:41 pm)Dan wrote Still doesn't mean I will answer them though!

He will have to wait until the next Facebook live... Hahaha!

When will that be?

(17 Feb 2020, 4:36 pm)Dan wrote These are the only OmniCitys planned to be converted to Euro 6 for the time being. The OmniCitys are now 13 years old, and the funding allocated means that these buses will have to stay in the fleet for another three years (approx) based on vehicle mileage, remaining on the same route unless they're replaced with newer vehicles of the same Euro 6 emission standard.

As has been mentioned previously, with the current rate of investment, it's likely a large number of Scania OmniCity, and indeed a handful of Citaro, will be withdrawn this year.

This one is a joint initiative between Go North East and South Tyneside Council. It's important that operators don't completely forget about other operating areas besides Newcastle, just because they aren't going to have a clean air zone (for the time being).

Could send some of the Citaros down to East Yorkshire for a few years to replace their older E300's which sounded horrible when I was down Hull last Monday, could also replace their older B7RLE's and Plaxton Centros as I'm sure despite them having a refurb less than 3 years ago they'd still hold a good book value.

Then withdraw the Bluestar examples.

(17 Feb 2020, 7:29 pm)Dan wrote In other Washington news, the indiGo fleet has (finally) started to be updated in the new style, as shown in the photo below.

Vinyls removed from windows, the little 'indiGo' line vinyls have all been stripped from the bodywork, the cant rail has been vinyled over in black with a more generic message to future-proof against any potential future fleet movements, and a 'fares strip' added to the sun visor (there'll be a number of different variations).

Go North East indiGo 680 / NK16 BXY by kieron mathews, on Flickr

Are they to gain roadatripes?

https://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/crim...ot-1768122


Yobs smash out bus window with passengers onboard as trouble flares at town's hotspot.

One of the X-lines Solos needs new windows, little [emoji90] they are [emoji35]


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(17 Feb 2020, 9:51 pm)JP6004 wrote Are they to gain roadatripes?

No, you’d need to replace the indiGo logo to do this and it’d look pretty naff having roadstripes separating the same colour.


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