Heard that 8 more gas buses are due to leave soon to "Reading buses", any truth?

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Does anyone know the capacity for the new electric buses for Sunderland?

Have to say don’t like the look of these new electrics as they only seems to be 3-4 seats before the step which could make it difficult for disabled people.

(19 Oct 2024, 10:08 am)Michael wrote Heard that 8 more gas buses are due to leave soon to "Reading buses", any truth?

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Does anyone know the capacity for the new electric buses for Sunderland?

B39F according to Bus Lists on the Web

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Sunderland's 73058 on Wednesday evening after it arrived for storage at Stockton

(19 Oct 2024, 5:13 pm)stagecoachfan wrote B39F according to Bus Lists on the Web

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Sunderland's 73058 on Wednesday evening after it arrived for storage at Stockton

Ah not bad, thought it would of been more.

Could TNE not just strip SC of these buses if theyre not going to keep them to the services they were meant to get, isnt it the agreement theyre not to be moved for 3-5 years and no frequency reductions at all.

(20 Oct 2024, 4:20 pm)Unber43 wrote Could TNE not just strip SC of these buses if theyre not going to keep them to the services they were meant to get, isnt it the agreement theyre not to be moved for 3-5 years and no frequency reductions at all.

How sure are people that they’re off to Stockton, and not Sunderland?

https://x.com/northeastptug/status/1848071975429980579?s=46&t=tPuGEygnn6BhKgNFiA4yAw

(20 Oct 2024, 6:56 pm)ne14ne1 wrote How sure are people that they’re off to Stockton, and not Sunderland?

https://x.com/northeastptug/status/1848071975429980579?s=46&t=tPuGEygnn6BhKgNFiA4yAw

I think most on this forum, know this batch is for Sunderland.

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Looks like the E's could be getting increased.


Levelling up funds: E1/E2/E6, be good to see them back to every 7 mins combined - although its at wrong time of the year, as its now Autumn.


PVR goes up from 10 to 12 - if every service is increased to every 20 minutes.

(20 Oct 2024, 7:18 pm)Michael wrote I think most on this forum, know this batch is for Sunderland.

Ah okay cool. I saw the Stockton comments the other day but haven’t read every post since.

(20 Oct 2024, 7:18 pm)Michael wrote Looks like the E's could be getting increased.

Levelling up funds: E1/E2/E6, be good to see them back to every 7 mins combined - although its at wrong time of the year, as its now Autumn.

Where does it say that? I assume you might be getting confused here, those electric buses were won via a levelling up fund rather than ZEBRA.

(20 Oct 2024, 7:24 pm)Storx wrote Where does it say that? I assume you might be getting confused here, those electric buses were won via a levelling up fund rather than ZEBRA.

(20 Oct 2024, 7:18 pm)Michael wrote PVR goes up from 10 to 12 - if every service is increased to every 20 minutes.

Couldn't quote the attachment.

That's just the money they got the buses through, was a levelling up fund as I can remember slating it as some electric buses in Gosforth doesn't level up poorer areas which was the point of the fund originally.

Mind that said I'm sure it's been mentioned it might be happening though.

(20 Oct 2024, 7:29 pm)Storx wrote Couldn't quote the attachment.

That's just the money they got the buses through, was a levelling up fund as I can remember slating it as some electric buses in Gosforth doesn't level up poorer areas which was the point of the fund originally.

Ah maybe I misread it but didn't GNE use the levelling up funds for the 21 or was that a different fund?

There's been that many - I can't keep track

(20 Oct 2024, 7:31 pm)Michael wrote Ah maybe I misread it but didn't GNE use the levelling up funds for the 21 or was that a different fund?

There's been that many - I can't keep track

BSIP (Bus Services Improvement Fund) that one. Mind the 21, 30, 31, 36, 43 and 64 have all had money spent on them from BSIP.

A second Yutong has appeared at Sunderland. NL74 FVE. No number displayed.


These are my images.

(20 Oct 2024, 10:37 pm)F114TML wrote A second Yutong has appeared at Sunderland. NL74 FVE. No number displayed.


These are my images.

From the list published in the latest Buses magazine, that one is 73068.

Spotted one of the Yutongs, at the busgate at Southwick.


Best pic i could get, as the lights was changing.

Sorry if it is a stupid question I’m just trying to get everything right:

So the depots that are getting the new electric are buses are Stockton, Sunderland, and Slatyford?

And if so when do we expect them in service?

(21 Oct 2024, 6:07 pm)BusEnthusiast.com wrote Sorry if it is a stupid question I’m just trying to get everything right:

So the depots that are getting the new electric are buses are Stockton, Sunderland, and Slatyford?

And if so when do we expect them in service?

Sunderland's are arriving now, hopefully in service soon however they're being stored at Stockton until the depot is sorted (looks like the depot shed is almost down).

There's a couple at Sunderland though, 1's been out and about - likely driver training so drivers are ready to go once they enter service.

Hopefully the chargers are easy and quick to install.

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Apparently Slatyfords are now going to Stockton due to problems with the depot however i'm not sure if those have been ordered yet but they're like to bevYutongs like Sunderlands.


I'm not sure if thats correct for Stockton and Slatyford though.

I don't actually get why they can't have a roof and charging points? Why do these charge points need to be open air?

Odd they're being delivered in the old livery when the old livery defunct

(22 Oct 2024, 3:00 am)deanmachine wrote I don't actually get why they can't have a roof and charging points? Why do these charge points need to be open air?

From what I’ve been told mate, it’s due to the heat the electric chargers will produce and apparently the big open doors either end of the shed aren’t enough. But they’ve had the roof off before and had complaints from the local residents about the noise from the buses being checked over on a morning so the same issue would just arise again. So from what I’ve been told as a driver at Slatyford our order has been cancelled and they’ll head to Stockton instead and Slatyford will receive the 69 plate 262’s from Stockton. This isn’t officially confirmed but I have been told this from a union rep.

Its a bit like Sunderland having to have their shed removed but they’re not in a residential area, same with Walkergate having their buses outdoors as well. It’s just an issue with Slatyford depot being in the middle of a residential area.

There's just as many houses close to Wheatsheaf as there is to Slatyford.

(22 Oct 2024, 6:59 pm)ReDemPTiion wrote From what I’ve been told mate, it’s due to the heat the electric chargers will produce and apparently the big open doors either end of the shed aren’t enough. But they’ve had the roof off before and had complaints from the local residents about the noise from the buses being checked over on a morning so the same issue would just arise again. So from what I’ve been told as a driver at Slatyford our order has been cancelled and they’ll head to Stockton instead and Slatyford will receive the 69 plate 262’s from Stockton. This isn’t officially confirmed but I have been told this from a union rep.

Its a bit like Sunderland having to have their shed removed but they’re not in a residential area, same with Walkergate having their buses outdoors as well. It’s just an issue with Slatyford depot being in the middle of a residential area.

Does this mean Cleveland Transit liveried 26282 would transfer from Stockton to Slatyford if this happens? Presumably it would be repainted because the Cleveland Transit livery would make no sense in Slatyford?

(23 Oct 2024, 7:09 am)OrangeArrow49 wrote Does this mean Cleveland Transit liveried 26282 would transfer from Stockton to Slatyford if this happens? Presumably it would be repainted because the Cleveland Transit livery would make no sense in Slatyford?

We’ve still got 2 connecting the dots around Stockton livery’s up here (27246&27249) over a year later so I doubt they’ll paint that before sending them here if that is what’s actually happening.

(23 Oct 2024, 9:45 am)ReDemPTiion wrote We’ve still got 2 connecting the dots around Stockton livery’s up here (27246&27249) over a year later so I doubt they’ll paint that before sending them here if that is what’s actually happening.

So 26282 would be one transferring up to Slatyford if this is actually what's happening? Well that would be funny, but Stockton's pride bus and the Connecting the Dots ones as you say, transferred and haven't been painted, so it's not that unusual.

(21 Oct 2024, 9:20 pm)Michael wrote Sunderland's are arriving now, hopefully in service soon however they're being stored at Stockton until the depot is sorted (looks like the depot shed is almost down).

There's a couple at Sunderland though, 1's been out and about - likely driver training so drivers are ready to go once they enter service.

Hopefully the chargers are easy and quick to install.

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Apparently Slatyfords are now going to Stockton due to problems with the depot however i'm not sure if those have been ordered yet but they're like to bevYutongs like Sunderlands.


I'm not sure if thats correct for Stockton and Slatyford though.

So slight update with regards to the electric buses going to Slatyford. Speaking to a shunter today work is booked in for March 2025 to demolish and rebuild Slatyford depot. The plan is to turn the whole depot around so vehicles will most likely face the other direction this way it is classed as industrial rather than residential (don’t ask how I have no idea) but this way they can keep the roof off. But Slatyford are unlikely to get electric buses until late 2025 early 2026. It’s unclear as to what will happen to the ones for Slatyford but seems Stockton will still only receive the 40 and keep the 262’s.

Another of Sunderland's Yutongs arrived for storage at Stockton depot today, 73069 (NL74FVF)

(23 Oct 2024, 7:15 pm)stagecoachfan wrote Another of Sunderland's Yutongs arrived for storage at Stockton depot today, 73069 (NL74FVF)

They're starting to arrive quckily now, how many has arrived so far?

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(23 Oct 2024, 6:45 pm)ReDemPTiion wrote So slight update with regards to the electric buses going to Slatyford. Speaking to a shunter today work is booked in for March 2025 to demolish and rebuild Slatyford depot. The plan is to turn the whole depot around so vehicles will most likely face the other direction this way it is classed as industrial rather than residential (don’t ask how I have no idea) but this way they can keep the roof off. But Slatyford are unlikely to get electric buses until late 2025 early 2026. It’s unclear as to what will happen to the ones for Slatyford but seems Stockton will still only receive the 40 and keep the 262’s.

That just seems like a right clart on though.


Hopefully they might come to Sunderland, giving them 38 electric buses, also they'll already have their batch of electric buses and the drivers trained to drive them.

(23 Oct 2024, 6:45 pm)ReDemPTiion wrote So slight update with regards to the electric buses going to Slatyford. Speaking to a shunter today work is booked in for March 2025 to demolish and rebuild Slatyford depot. The plan is to turn the whole depot around so vehicles will most likely face the other direction this way it is classed as industrial rather than residential (don’t ask how I have no idea) but this way they can keep the roof off. But Slatyford are unlikely to get electric buses until late 2025 early 2026. It’s unclear as to what will happen to the ones for Slatyford but seems Stockton will still only receive the 40 and keep the 262’s.

I think a better idea in the short term would be for the Electric Buses/Services to be swapped between Slatyford and Walkergate with Electric Chargers installed at the latter giving it an early upgrade ahead of future Electric Bus Orders which it will no doubt get in the next few years, this then allows time for Slatyford to be rebuilt and once both sets of works are complete then services swapped over and can be reverted to how they are now.

Looking at things we are not the only area that is experiencing issues in getting EV Chargers installed, a few of the Yutong E12's intended for Rugby have gone to Stagecoach Western temporarily until early 2025 and have been allocated to Service 4 (Ayr - Kilmarnock - Glasgow) whilst works are carried out at the intended Depot they were due to be allocated to. 

With that in mind as mentioned by others in earlier posts having them go to Sunderland/Stockton is not a bad idea if it results in older buses in the fleet being withdrawn earlier than scheduled.

De carbonising the fleet clearly not easy. Not sure why they dont look for a new site which meets all criteria rather than trying to shoehorn something which is not 100%.