Deptford has been suffering so bad with late runnings.

Anyone any idea why loads of 94's have been cancelled today?? Looks like they are running towards south end of team valley then just disappear and come up as cancelled. Next one from Salisbury is over an hour according to the appt??

(29 Nov 2024, 8:24 am)Rob44 wrote Anyone any idea why loads of 94's have been cancelled today??  Looks like they are running towards south end of team valley then just disappear and come up as cancelled.  Next one from Salisbury is over an hour according to the appt??

One corner of the Bermuda Triangle is the Angel of the North.

Lovely to see the Durham Diamonds all very late this morning. [going of bustimes, usually accurate for this sort of thing]

16A 08:56 to durham 22 minutes late
16A 08:45 to Stanley 7 minutes late

16 7:54 to durham 10 minutes late
16 08:17 to durham 17 minutes late
16 08:00 to shotley 26 minutes late
16 08:47 to durham 10 minutes late

I posted in another thread about the 29 been turned at gateshead due to late running after the Leicester city game. I complained and go a very sincery reply from GNE saying how it was running 30 plus late and it was turned as the driver was going to run out of hours. They also said however that with it being an hourly service something ( they didnt say what) should have been put into place for the dozens waiting at eldon square! To make matters worse for myself went for a few pint to kill time and ive bloody lost my magpie mover!!!

Anyway Im sitting her wondering what somethings should have been put in place?? Any ideas ??

(21 Dec 2024, 6:24 pm)Rob44 wrote I posted in another thread about the 29 been turned at gateshead due to late running after the Leicester city game.  I complained and go a very sincery reply from GNE saying how it was running 30 plus late and it was turned as the driver was going to run out of hours.  They also said however that with it being an hourly service something ( they didnt say what) should have been put into place for the dozens waiting at eldon square!  To make matters worse for myself went for a few pint to kill time and ive bloody lost my magpie mover!!! 

Anyway Im sitting her wondering what somethings should have been put in place?? Any ideas ??

Your Magpie Mover? Should have been left in your pocket.

(21 Dec 2024, 6:24 pm)Rob44 wrote Anyway Im sitting her wondering what somethings should have been put in place?? Any ideas ??

Probably spare driver in a spare bus covering the cancelled journey. I assume one or the other was unavailable.

It would really help the Durham 21s if they didn’t call at arnison 2 days before Christmas

6225 on the X10 today: https://bustimes.org/vehicles/gnel-6225#

Started 25 minutes late, 33 minutes late by Middlesbrough. Left Middlesbrough 37 minutes late, arrived in Newcastle 54 minutes late. Left Newcastle 42 minutes late, and is currently 47 minutes late at Heworth on the way back north.

There would have been a driver change at GHM between trips to Middlesbrough, so why on earth wasn't it regulated given that it's running near enough an hour behind schedule? Equally, it evidently cannot keep to schedule (assuming this is one of the ones limited to about 45mph for some bizarre reason), so why wasn't the vehicle swapped for something more suitable for the 1310 ex-Newcastle?

Yet more shocking service delivery by GNE and the clowns running Riverside.

(21 Dec 2024, 9:23 pm)Andreos1 wrote Your Magpie Mover? Should have been left in your pocket.

yeh !!!! did help i was i bit discombobulated

Do GNE still have radios as if they had told a driver of the 21 or x1 to tell us to jump on his bus i would have been home on the correct bus magpie mover in tacked!

(24 Dec 2024, 5:26 pm)PH - BQA wrote 6225 on the X10 today: https://bustimes.org/vehicles/gnel-6225#

Started 25 minutes late, 33 minutes late by Middlesbrough. Left Middlesbrough 37 minutes late, arrived in Newcastle 54 minutes late. Left Newcastle 42 minutes late, and is currently 47 minutes late at Heworth on the way back north.

There would have been a driver change at GHM between trips to Middlesbrough, so why on earth wasn't it regulated given that it's running near enough an hour behind schedule? Equally, it evidently cannot keep to schedule (assuming this is one of the ones limited to about 45mph for some bizarre reason), so why wasn't the vehicle swapped for something more suitable for the 1310 ex-Newcastle?

Yet more shocking service delivery by GNE and the clowns running Riverside.

I have to question as to why it dwelled in Middlesbrough Bus Station for 15 minutes? Although frim what I've heard from a passenger, driver was in no hurry to leave, likely a ploy to drop part of their next duty. 6225 is indeed one of the low speed limited examples too.

(24 Dec 2024, 8:41 pm)Rob44 wrote yeh !!!! did help i was i bit discombobulated

Do GNE still have radios as if they had told a driver of the 21 or x1 to tell us to jump on his bus i would have been home on the correct bus magpie mover in tacked!

You need to send a strongly worded email.

(24 Dec 2024, 5:26 pm)PH - BQA wrote 6225 on the X10 today: https://bustimes.org/vehicles/gnel-6225#

Equally, it evidently cannot keep to schedule (assuming this is one of the ones limited to about 45mph for some bizarre reason), so why wasn't the vehicle swapped for something more suitable for the 1310 ex-Newcastle?

Yet more shocking service delivery by GNE and the clowns running Riverside.

Because........GNE think that Whickham and Dunston need 3bph to Newcastle and can't devise suitable interworking patterns to release more suited vehicles for the X10/X21, not forgetting that they've got high spec B5TLs running on a service that can't even sustain a full 7 day per week operation throughout the full route!

If GNE are serious about sorting the mess out, they should go.......

Routes:
- 6 interworks with the 12 which is moved back to Consett, in exchange for X31 & X71 moving to Riverside

- X31/X71 (see below) moves to Riverside, interworks with 1x X21 per hour meaning that all driver reliefs can take place at Gateshead Interchange

(Driver 1) X21 WA > X21 GAT > (Driver 2) X21 NCL > X71 CON > X71 NCL > X31 STA > X31 NCL > X21 GAT

- Current X30 renumbered to X31 and runs hourly, half hourly via Whickham & Dunston with X71

- X32 becomes new service X30. 2bhp via East Stanley, Sunniside and Gateshead. Omits Lobley Hill Estate

- X70 via Lobley Hill Estate

- X10 increased to half hourly from Peterlee to Newcastle

Interworkings:
Consett - X70 > X30 > X30 > X70
Consett - X45 > X30 > X73 > X45
Consett - X45 > X73 > X30 > X45
Consett - 6 > 12 > 12 > 6
Riverside - X21 > X71 > X71 > X31 > X31 > X21
Riverside - 4x X21 boards standalone

**Evening & Sunday X31 boards possibly run by Consett interworking with 6, 12 and X72.

Vehicle allocations:
- X30/X45/X70/X73 - 13x B5TL (6308-14) / StreetDeck (6356-63) with 2x spares

- X10 - 5x E400MMC & 6377
- X21/X31/X71 - 8x E400MMC
- X21 - 4x E400MMC
- 3x spare E400MMC at Riverside covering PVR of 17x

- 6 & 12 - 9x E200MMC with 1x spare

- X66 - Temp single deck allocation (Versa, StreetLite) until EV's arrive

- X20 - Temp ex GAG/London stock....possibly some newer B9TLs depending on Angel StreetDeck cascade chain

(24 Dec 2024, 11:39 pm)Andreos1 wrote You need to send a strongly worded email.

I did and got gibberish and the admission that something should have been done - but didnt say what

Not sure whats going on with GNE premium service the "21" but the ex Mrs has been waiting on durham road since 745 and still no show!!

Not sure if there's a driver shortage again or a bus shortage now, but the amount of cancelled buses from Consett depot this morning and yesterday is outrageous.

(07 Jan 2025, 8:36 am)Iamtheone8483748 wrote Not sure if there's a driver shortage again or a bus shortage now, but the amount of cancelled buses from Consett depot this morning and yesterday is outrageous.

The weather has been bleak up there the last 72 hours. No doubt the reason for the problems up there, especially yesterday.

I've had sight of a letter from a secondary school on the route of the 21.

They're basically saying pupils need to get an earlier bus, because the reliability isn't what it should be. 
Despite it's frequency.

The letter is here

https://lordlawson.academy/wp-content/up...ervice.pdf

Usual caveats with Bustimes, but the 21 departure the school recommends has operated on time both yesterday and today. Seems like good advice.

GNE are just getting worse in every possible way

(07 Jan 2025, 3:23 pm)Ambassador wrote The letter is here

https://lordlawson.academy/wp-content/up...ervice.pdf

Further comms have gone out.
It seems parents have responded to the letter earlier in the week. 

The school are encouraging parents to contact the operator to share their frustrations.
A formal complaint has also been made by the school to GNE. 

Nexus are also involved. 

Signed off with the following:

Please be assured that whatever frustrations you share with regards to bus services we also share 

(10 Jan 2025, 7:39 pm)Andreos1 wrote Further comms have gone out.
It seems parents have responded to the letter earlier in the week. 

The school are encouraging parents to contact the operator to share their frustrations.
A formal complaint has also been made by the school to GNE. 

Nexus are also involved. 

Signed off with the following:

What's this? Go North East actually being held accountable for once? Don't believe my eyes.

Simple solution would be to introduce a 21S for students travelling from Gateshead to Lord Lawson in Birtley bringing them direct to the school and not Harras Bank and making a walk via shops on the high street etc and thus incurring lateness as a result, I'm sure Go North East, Nexus and Lord Lawson could come to an arrangement.

(12 Jan 2025, 8:34 pm)Malarkey wrote Simple solution would be to introduce a 21S for students travelling from Gateshead to Lord Lawson in Birtley bringing them direct to the school and not Harras Bank and making a walk via shops on the high street etc and thus incurring lateness as a result, I'm sure Go North East, Nexus and Lord Lawson could come to an arrangement.

using which vehicles? to the detriment of people waiting for 21s that have already not turned up?

it's a 5 minute walk from the stop at the foot of Harras Bank to the school, and any bus would have to pass Birtley centre anyway. if children are getting off the bus two stops early to visit shops, that then becomes a timekeeping issue for the children.

Odd one this

3965 was the 22.43 to Brandon after the match but arrived at 22.00 as 6077 left

6077 was the 21.48 to Brandon that I boarded to low fell

Both displayed Chester le st but the both ran not in service but with passengers loaded at Eldon square. 6077 displayed private hire and 3965 just NIS.

6077 was full but confirmed he was only go to Chester and the 3965 more lightly loaded

Seemed very very odd

(15 Jan 2025, 10:36 pm)Ambassador wrote Odd one this

3965 was the 22.43 to Brandon after the match but arrived at 22.00 as 6077 left

6077 was the 21.48 to Brandon that I boarded to low fell

Both displayed Chester le st but the both ran not in service but with passengers loaded at Eldon square. 6077 displayed private hire and 3965 just NIS.

6077 was full but confirmed he was only go to Chester and the 3965 more lightly loaded

Seemed very very odd

Can only assume they were duping the service (or running extra trips) to CLS going off the bustimes tracking, no trips extend to Brandon at that time of night.  https://bustimes.org/services/21-gateshe...2025-01-15

(15 Jan 2025, 10:36 pm)Ambassador wrote Odd one this

3965 was the 22.43 to Brandon after the match but arrived at 22.00 as 6077 left

6077 was the 21.48 to Brandon that I boarded to low fell

Both displayed Chester le st but the both ran not in service but with passengers loaded at Eldon square. 6077 displayed private hire and 3965 just NIS.

6077 was full but confirmed he was only go to Chester and the 3965 more lightly loaded

Seemed very very odd

Most likely duplicates told to pick up at Eldon only then run drop-off only to CLS.

Thanks all, I know the old dupes in the days of CLS used to still do pick ups but surprised they are still running since chester closed, suppose no pick up is the trade off