Seems like redcar is semi struggling. At least 3 pulsars iff the road

1426
1448
1449

2857 has been struggling on the 81 the past few days only managing at least a half day.

3052 is off the road again.
3053 back on the 63 today. (How long for is the next thing)
And issues looking at the decker and their tracking.

1534 tracking on the 29 this morning

(13 Mar 2025, 8:05 am)Ryland wrote 1534 tracking on the 29 this morning

 Yeah it's on loan for the day I herd

Anyone know when Redcar are getting some pulsars  for the temsas

(13 Mar 2025, 10:17 am)Mark66t wrote Anyone know when Redcar are getting some pulsars  for the temsas

Whenever that will be just be patient like everyone else, they will get them when they do

(13 Mar 2025, 10:17 am)Mark66t wrote Anyone know when Redcar are getting some pulsars  for the temsas

Whenever the Evora's turn up, they're needed to displace the ones out of Merseyside. The ones due at Redcar are originally part of the Merseyside order but they gained the Streetlite's instead with those ones diverted to Redcar.

(13 Mar 2025, 10:00 am)Mark66t wrote  Yeah it's on loan for the day I herd

Clearly isn't on loan for the day, it's still at Stockton today on 8s

(14 Mar 2025, 1:58 pm)busesofthenortheast wrote Clearly isn't on loan for the day, it's still at Stockton today on 8s

Redcar bailing Stockton out because there fucked up once again   and yes it is on loan  same as 1379

(14 Mar 2025, 6:01 pm)Mark66t wrote Redcar bailing Stockton out because there fucked up once again   and yes it is on loan  same as 1379

Well it’s not Stockton’s fault they having issues with fuel on 17 buses

(13 Mar 2025, 10:00 am)Mark66t wrote  Yeah it's on loan for the day I herd

If it’s on a day loan then why was it on 29s/8s yesterday & 8s today then so clearly not a day loan so your wrong

(14 Mar 2025, 8:31 pm)busesofthenortheast wrote If it’s on a day loan then why was it on 29s/8s yesterday & 8s today then so clearly not a day loan so your wrong

Well its not a transfer that u wanting it to be

(14 Mar 2025, 8:51 pm)Mark66t wrote Well its not a transfer that u wanting it to be

When did I mention anything about a transfer?

Rumour mill starting. That redcar are to recieve stockton streetlight for the 63 and 14 pulsars going to stockton?

Does anyone know when the envora are due to arrive couldn't remember if it was Easter or early in the summer

(16 Mar 2025, 8:39 am)IcRyland wrote Rumour mill starting. That redcar are to recieve stockton streetlight for the 63 and 14 pulsars going to stockton?

Does anyone know when the envora are due to arrive couldn't remember if it was Easter or early in the summer

Incorrect  Streetlites are staying at Stockton their is no plains for 1550 to 63 to move  ita just sertain stockton veg spending romers about

(16 Mar 2025, 8:39 am)Ryland wrote Rumour mill starting. That redcar are to recieve stockton streetlight for the 63 and 14 pulsars going to stockton?

Does anyone know when the envora are due to arrive couldn't remember if it was Easter or early in the summer

Don't believe it's been formally confirmed but someone mentioned that Luton are due there's in May so I'd assume around then.

(16 Mar 2025, 8:39 am)Ryland wrote Rumour mill starting. That redcar are to recieve stockton streetlight for the 63 and 14 pulsars going to stockton?

Does anyone know when the envora are due to arrive couldn't remember if it was Easter or early in the summer

I’ve heard about this rumour & I’ve been told that it might be happening to make Stockton the oldest fleet, if it does happen then Stockton will receive 13 pulsars as a swap for 13 Streetlites for use on service 63

(16 Mar 2025, 11:27 am)busesofthenortheast wrote I’ve heard about this rumour & I’ve been told that it might be happening to make Stockton the oldest fleet, if it does happen then Stockton will receive 13 pulsars as a swap for 13 Streetlites for use on service 63

Pulsar will be going to Redcar  I been told this  by more than one person  Streetlites are reaming at Stockton

Redcar lost the lites for a reason  so this rumour is definitely not true

(16 Mar 2025, 12:03 pm)Mark66t wrote Pulsar will be going to Redcar  I been told this  by more than one person  Streetlites are reaming at Stockton

Redcar lost the lites for a reason  so this rumour is definitely not true

Apparently there's a lot of tweaks being discussed at the moment across the region, so what was true yesterday might not be true today.

Wonder if there has been a bid for the ZEBRA2 expansion funds, which might see something at Stockton now. If they're dumping all the oldest vehicles it would suggest that something newer is coming and it's arguably got the stongest case out of the depots if Redcar is abandoned (there's only Hartlepool).

https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/zeb...st-7197529 - The extra funding is mentioned here.

(16 Mar 2025, 3:28 pm)Storx wrote Wonder if there has been a bid for the ZEBRA2 expansion funds, which might see something at Stockton now. If they're dumping all the oldest vehicles it would suggest that something newer is coming and it's arguably got the stongest case out of the depots if Redcar is abandoned (there's only Hartlepool).

https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/zeb...st-7197529 - The extra funding is mentioned here.

If they are gonna dump the oldest vehicles at Stockton then they might just dump the NW pulsars at Stockton & give Redcar the Streetlites who knows just have to wait & see what happens

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(16 Mar 2025, 12:03 pm)Mark66t wrote Pulsar will be going to Redcar  I been told this  by more than one person  Streetlites are reaming at Stockton

Redcar lost the lites for a reason  so this rumour is definitely not true

It’s actually up to commercial where vehicles will go so if they do go ahead with the plan then that’s what gonna happen

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(16 Mar 2025, 12:03 pm)Mark66t wrote Pulsar will be going to Redcar  I been told this  by more than one person  Streetlites are reaming at Stockton

Redcar lost the lites for a reason  so this rumour is definitely not true

Plans can change you know

(16 Mar 2025, 6:15 pm)busesofthenortheast wrote If they are gonna dump the oldest vehicles at Stockton then they might just dump the NW pulsars at Stockton & give Redcar the Streetlites who knows just have to wait & see what happens

Yeah, the other question is where are the E200MMC's going, maybe they could displace these Pulsars eventually?

I'm unsure whether there's a route at Stockton which could be ran by midibuses though, but maybe that could be the end goal ie. Electrics to Darlington, Enviro 200MMC to Stockton, Streetlite to Redcar, Pulsar withdrawn rather than the original Electrics to Redcar, Pulsar (assume) withdrawn.

Personally I do think they'll leave the North East though.

(16 Mar 2025, 12:03 pm)Mark66t wrote Pulsar will be going to Redcar  I been told this  by more than one person  Streetlites are reaming at Stockton

Redcar lost the lites for a reason  so this rumour is definitely not true

(16 Mar 2025, 7:05 pm)Storx wrote Yeah, the other question is where are the E200MMC's going, maybe they could displace these Pulsars eventually?

I'm unsure whether there's a route at Stockton which could be ran by midibuses though, but maybe that could be the end goal ie. Electrics to Darlington, Enviro 200MMC to Stockton, Streetlite to Redcar, Pulsar withdrawn rather than the original Electrics to Redcar, Pulsar (assume) withdrawn.

Personally I do think they'll leave the North East though.

Streetlites aren't going to Redcar  its been mentioned on a group chat tonight and it wasn't mentioned by spotters

(16 Mar 2025, 7:05 pm)Storx wrote Yeah, the other question is where are the E200MMC's going, maybe they could displace these Pulsars eventually?

I'm unsure whether there's a route at Stockton which could be ran by midibuses though, but maybe that could be the end goal ie. Electrics to Darlington, Enviro 200MMC to Stockton, Streetlite to Redcar, Pulsar withdrawn rather than the original Electrics to Redcar, Pulsar (assume) withdrawn.

Personally I do think they'll leave the North East though.

The mmcs might be good for the 95. And I'd they created another town service potentially between ruswarp and Sainsbury's via park and ride. 
Then the 81 it's mostly down on the solos anyways.

(16 Mar 2025, 10:54 pm)BRyland wrote The mmcs might be good for the 95. And I'd they created another town service potentially between ruswarp and Sainsbury's via park and ride. 
Then the 81 it's mostly down on the solos anyways.

Be a nice upgrade for the 95  definitely  where the solo's carrying on  just lately 
Then send 2 for Redcar  for the 81 which again would be nicely suited  but let's see what happens

(16 Mar 2025, 7:05 pm)Storx wrote Yeah, the other question is where are the E200MMC's going, maybe they could displace these Pulsars eventually?

I'm unsure whether there's a route at Stockton which could be ran by midibuses though, but maybe that could be the end goal ie. Electrics to Darlington, Enviro 200MMC to Stockton, Streetlite to Redcar, Pulsar withdrawn rather than the original Electrics to Redcar, Pulsar (assume) withdrawn.

Personally I do think they'll leave the North East though.

Not sure if the 7 to Yarm would still be suitable to use a smaller bus as it's been Solo/MPD worked in the past.

The only other one which comes to mind for possible use is Ashington for the 434 and the 415/460 on a Saturday.

Pretty much everything now needs something larger than those E200MMCs.

We're still over a year away yet from Darlington's new electrics arriving, so who knows what will be needed for what and where this time next year, most of the Tees Valley supported services are now supported into next year, unsure how DalesBus would work next year for Darlington if all the E200MMCs departed from there as electrics likely won't be suitable for range on those routes,  unless they went back to using the 67 plate StreetLite's again.

(16 Mar 2025, 10:54 pm)Ryland wrote The mmcs might be good for the 95. And I'd they created another town service potentially between ruswarp and Sainsbury's via park and ride. 
Then the 81 it's mostly down on the solos anyways.

95 is supposedly becoming a big bus working when the service changes occur next month, not really worth having an E200MMC for a service which requires 1 bus for most of the day, when a larger one will manage, reduces the chances of one ending up on the X93/X94 if nothing else.

(16 Mar 2025, 10:37 pm)Mark66t wrote Streetlites aren't going to Redcar  its been mentioned on a group chat tonight and it wasn't mentioned by spotters

It’s really not up to group chats where buses go it’s up to commercial what they want to do with the buses so if they want to move the Streetlites to Redcar to make Stocktons fleet older then that’s the plan that commercial can do no one else it’s up to commercial

(17 Mar 2025, 1:12 am)busesofthenortheast wrote It’s really not up to group chats where buses go it’s up to commercial what they want to do with the buses so if they want to move the Streetlites to Redcar to make Stocktons fleet older then that’s the plan that commercial can do no one else it’s up to commercial

Ur kind of wrong  Stockton have the  newer Fleet  Redcar  as the older buses

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(17 Mar 2025, 7:42 am)Mark66t wrote Ur kind of wrong  Stockton have the  newer Fleet  Redcar  as the older buses puls pulsars are far better suited for Redcar work and more reliable  as there operatior out on fair more hilly routes than Stockton is more flat routes than any manger steap hills   

(17 Mar 2025, 7:42 am)Mark66t wrote Ur kind of wrong  Stockton have the  newer Fleet  Redcar  as the older buses

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Like I’ve just said commercial decides what they want to do with the buses, they moved the Streetlites out of Redcar so they can put older buses at Redcar for new buses that’s what’s happening so it looks like they’re doing the exact same thing for Stockton giving Redcar the Streetlites & swap them for pulsars so they can put older pulsars at Stockton for new buses that’s what it sounds like commercial are doing

busesofthenortheast
Like I’ve just said commercial decides what they want to do with the buses, they moved the Streetlites out of Redcar so they can put older buses at Redcar for new buses that’s what’s happening so it looks like they’re doing the exact same thing for Stockton giving Redcar the Streetlites & swap them for pulsars so they can put older pulsars at Stockton for new buses that’s what it sounds like commercial are doing

Yeah u just want all the pulsars at Stockton  asper

(17 Mar 2025, 2:47 pm)Mark66t wrote busesofthenortheast
Like I’ve just said commercial decides what they want to do with the buses, they moved the Streetlites out of Redcar so they can put older buses at Redcar for new buses that’s what’s happening so it looks like they’re doing the exact same thing for Stockton giving Redcar the Streetlites & swap them for pulsars so they can put older pulsars at Stockton for new buses that’s what it sounds like commercial are doing

Yeah u just want all the pulsars at Stockton  asper

I'm not gonna waste my time arguing with you cba