They use a mix with molasses in because it gives more grip, apparently.

Stockton’s 1450 suffered a ‘thermal incident’ while running back to the depot on Saturday evening (22/03/2025)

Rear of the vehicle apparently a mess

(23 Mar 2025, 8:05 pm)Teessider2014 wrote Stockton’s 1450 suffered a ‘thermal incident’ while running back to the depot on Saturday evening (22/03/2025)

Rear of the vehicle apparently a mess

Will it return to service or will it get withdrawn?

(23 Mar 2025, 8:26 pm)busesofthenortheast wrote Will it return to service or will it get withdrawn?

It will return to service its not serious damage

(23 Mar 2025, 11:40 pm)Mark66t wrote It will return to service its not serious damage

No one knows how much damage it caused so how would we know it we know if it’s coming back or getting withdrawn, technically your just thinking too far ahead

(24 Mar 2025, 12:30 am)busesofthenortheast wrote No one knows how much damage it caused so how would we know it we know if it’s coming back or getting withdrawn, technically your just thinking too far ahead

Ya wrong because I have  and I know a driver there' also and its not bad no need for a replacement   your the one thinking ahead as per usual   and Jump to conclusions that's not true

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(24 Mar 2025, 6:52 am)Mark66t wrote Ya wrong because I have  and I know a driver there' also and its not bad no need for a replacement   your the one thinking ahead as per usual   and Jump to conclusions that's not true

It will be getting fixed as there back if it isn't badly damaged   u don't like the fact  there isn't gonna be an replacement  .

(24 Mar 2025, 6:52 am)Mark66t wrote Ya wrong because I have  and I know a driver there' also and its not bad no need for a replacement   your the one thinking ahead as per usual   and Jump to conclusions that's not true

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How am I wrong about no one knowing how much damage there is, I’m not wasting my time arguing with you

(23 Mar 2025, 8:05 pm)Teessider2014 wrote Stockton’s 1450 suffered a ‘thermal incident’ while running back to the depot on Saturday evening (22/03/2025)

Rear of the vehicle apparently a mess

Sorry to be rude but have you seen any photos of the rear of 1450 when it suffered a ‘thermal incident’ or not?

(24 Mar 2025, 3:11 pm)busesofthenortheast wrote Sorry to be rude but have you seen any photos of the rear of 1450 when it suffered a ‘thermal incident’ or not?

Yes

Crikey, this is more heated than the back of the bus.

(24 Mar 2025, 9:39 pm)Teessider2014 wrote Yes

Are you able to send me the photos if that’s possible please

(25 Mar 2025, 3:22 am)busesofthenortheast wrote Are you able to send me the photos if that’s possible please

Stop pestering people for photos

1450 has been written off. Uneconomical to repair.

1409 will transfer from Darlington to replace it.

(25 Mar 2025, 8:20 pm)Superman wrote 1450 has been written off. Uneconomical to repair.

1409 will transfer from Darlington to replace it.

Wonder when that will happen as Darlington currently have 1412 on loan from Durham

(25 Mar 2025, 8:20 pm)Superman wrote 1450 has been written off. Uneconomical to repair.

1409 will transfer from Darlington to replace it.

Been told 1409 is going to Redcar

(25 Mar 2025, 4:07 pm)Mark66t wrote Stop pestering people for photos

I’m not even pestering anyone actually I’ve only just asked once

(25 Mar 2025, 11:51 pm)Mark66t wrote Been told 1409 is going to Redcar

That was the original plan - now it's required to replace 1450 at Stockton.

(26 Mar 2025, 10:10 am)Kuyoyo wrote That was the original plan - now it's required to replace 1450 at Stockton.

So what would come to Redcar in it's place? 
I'm guessing 1534 is staying at stockton till it moves over.

Redcar have a number of pulsars still off the road. 

1446 has ventured again to the x4. Last time I was on this it didn't sound great at all.

(26 Mar 2025, 7:24 pm)Ryland wrote So what would come to Redcar in it's place? 
I'm guessing 1534 is staying at stockton till it moves over.

Redcar have a number of pulsars still off the road. 

1446 has ventured again to the x4. Last time I was on this it didn't sound great at all.

Saw a Pulsar getting a lift towards Redcar at Wilton today. 

They've also had a decker out on the 62.

(26 Mar 2025, 8:34 pm)Andreos1 wrote They've also had a decker out on the 62.

They've been on for weeks haven't they? Got no use at Whitby as they've got enough deckers there with the reduced PVR on the X93/X94 currently. 

Noticed it's one of the few times every decker and every Temsa has been on the road in the past week aswell, mind I'll ignore that 7610 didn't manage a single run there.

Surprised Darlo are not sending 1406, 1417 or 1431. Kind of a random decision for 1409 to be sent. Then again, 1409 has a good record of time in service.

(26 Mar 2025, 11:26 pm)Mike_98 wrote Surprised Darlo are not sending 1406, 1417 or 1431. Kind of a random decision for 1409 to be sent. Then again, 1409 has a good record of time in service.

I'm surprised Darlington is sending 1409 due to the amount of VOR vehicles they have and 1412 on loan from Durham

Darlington have VOR

7517  
1586 
1605
1416
1474
1437
1417

That's just parked up along back fence not sure what is off road in engineering bays

(26 Mar 2025, 7:24 pm)Ryland wrote So what would come to Redcar in it's place? 
I'm guessing 1534 is staying at stockton till it moves over.

Redcar have a number of pulsars still off the road. 

1446 has ventured again to the x4. Last time I was on this it didn't sound great at all.

1534 will be returning back to Redcar

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(26 Mar 2025, 10:10 am)Kuyoyo wrote That was the original plan - now it's required to replace 1450 at Stockton.

What's replacing  4700 12 20 22 26 then summer services kicks in next month

(27 Mar 2025, 10:02 pm)Mark66t wrote 1534 will be returning back to Redcar

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What's replacing  4700 12 20 22 26 then summer services kicks in next month

Pulsars from NW obviously, also 1534 will go back when it’s ready unless plans changes nobody knows yet

(28 Mar 2025, 3:17 am)busesofthenortheast wrote Pulsars from NW obviously, also 1534 will go back when it’s ready unless plans changes nobody knows yet

If nobody knows yet, how do you know that it will go back ‘when it’s ready unless plans change’? Are you an oracle? 

If it’s obvious, have you got confirmation of these mysterious Pulsars from the NW for the summer increase? They’ve already got the MMCs back, and retained all other deckers over the winter, so they are covered for the summer increase on paper.

(28 Mar 2025, 8:56 am)PH - BQA wrote If nobody knows yet, how do you know that it will go back ‘when it’s ready unless plans change’? Are you an oracle? 

If it’s obvious, have you got confirmation of these mysterious Pulsars from the NW for the summer increase? They’ve already got the MMCs back, and retained all other deckers over the winter, so they are covered for the summer increase on paper.

Surely it must be up at the top of the list for withdrawal rather than going elsewhere, with:

Durham's 1x B7TL
Darlington's 1x E300
Ashington's 1x Solo
Redcar's 4x Solo

I assume there's already vehicles in the fleet to replace all these but they're VOR currently. Crazy the number of random single buses limping on right now.

(28 Mar 2025, 9:50 am)Storx wrote Surely it must be up at the top of the list for withdrawal rather than going elsewhere, with:

Durham's 1x B7TL
Darlington's 1x E300
Ashington's 1x Solo
Redcar's 4x Solo

I assume there's already vehicles in the fleet to replace all these but they're VOR currently. Crazy the number of random single buses limping on right now.

It’s (1534) listed as being at Redcar for the summer PVR increase.

The Ashington Solo is continuing to cover for VORs, they have had several off with engines and 7545 is off currently with significant accident damage. 

Ultimately if they’re all working, they’ll likely stay in the fleet until they suffer a major failure, run out of test, or the VOR level reduces to the point they are surplus.

(28 Mar 2025, 8:56 am)PH - BQA wrote If nobody knows yet, how do you know that it will go back ‘when it’s ready unless plans change’? Are you an oracle? 

If it’s obvious, have you got confirmation of these mysterious Pulsars from the NW for the summer increase? They’ve already got the MMCs back, and retained all other deckers over the winter, so they are covered for the summer increase on paper.

Well if you think about it Stockton got 1534 due to the fuel (diesel) issues with the buses & Stockton still has it atm so it will go back when Stockton has sorted their issues out unless plans changes that’s why I’m saying no one knows when it will go back

(28 Mar 2025, 2:42 pm)busesofthenortheast wrote Well if you think about it Stockton got 1534 due to the fuel (diesel) issues with the buses & Stockton still has it atm so it will go back when Stockton has sorted their issues out unless plans changes that’s why I’m saying no one knows when it will go back

As stated above, it is listed as transferring to Redcar for the summer PVR increase. So Arriva do know when it is going back…

(28 Mar 2025, 8:56 am)PH - BQA wrote If nobody knows yet, how do you know that it will go back ‘when it’s ready unless plans change’? Are you an oracle? 

If it’s obvious, have you got confirmation of these mysterious Pulsars from the NW for the summer increase? They’ve already got the MMCs back, and retained all other deckers over the winter, so they are covered for the summer increase on paper.

The North West pulsars  are replacement for the temsas nothing to do with summer services