(04 Jun 2025, 1:47 pm)busesofthenortheast wrote Streetlites where perfectly fine on X4 when they where brand new

Then started to manger issues thank god Redcar don't have them.best year 2023 when all 14 went to Stockton

These volvos will be ten times better in performance

I think some of the issues was that the X4 was just too demanding for those Wright StreetLites after about five years. Stockton had a similar problem, which resulted in 1550 - 1559 being used more locally & then 10/61 plate Pulsar 2s typically being used for the 5/5A. It did not help that during the summer the X4 was always busy & experienced constant delays, without accounting for the fleet reliability issues at the time either.

With ten Evoras expected, the PVR of the X4 is eight buses, with the 95/323 at Whitby also using a full size bus that should take it to nine. I would suspect they'll then just keep the last Evora as a typical spare between the two Depots & be allocated to just about anything...

The main fleet at Redcar by this stage would then just consist mainly of VDL Pulsar 2s, Gemini 2s (spare for the winter) & Optare Solo SRs (which are ideal for the 81) - with another ten Temsa Avenues able to be withdrawn once the Evoras fully enter service.

(04 Jun 2025, 4:23 pm)S830OFT wrote I think some of the issues was that the X4 was just too demanding for those Wright StreetLites after about five years. Stockton had a similar problem, which resulted in 1550 - 1559 being used more locally & then 10/61 plate Pulsar 2s typically being used for the 5/5A. It did not help that during the summer the X4 was always busy & experienced constant delays, without accounting for the fleet reliability issues at the time either.

With ten Evoras expected, the PVR of the X4 is eight buses, with the 95/323 at Whitby also using a full size bus that should take it to nine. I would suspect they'll then just keep the last Evora as a typical spare between the two Depots & be allocated to just about anything...

The main fleet at Redcar by this stage would then just consist mainly of VDL Pulsar 2s, Gemini 2s (spare for the winter) & Optare Solo SRs (which are ideal for the 81) - with another ten Temsa Avenues able to be withdrawn once the Evoras fully enter service.

1475  could float around  as 1409 replaced 1450 so technically 1475 could be a vehicle that could easy be non depo allocated and just go to Depo to depo when required ?

(04 Jun 2025, 4:23 pm)S830OFT wrote I think some of the issues was that the X4 was just too demanding for those Wright StreetLites after about five years. Stockton had a similar problem, which resulted in 1550 - 1559 being used more locally & then 10/61 plate Pulsar 2s typically being used for the 5/5A. It did not help that during the summer the X4 was always busy & experienced constant delays, without accounting for the fleet reliability issues at the time either.

With ten Evoras expected, the PVR of the X4 is eight buses, with the 95/323 at Whitby also using a full size bus that should take it to nine. I would suspect they'll then just keep the last Evora as a typical spare between the two Depots & be allocated to just about anything...

The main fleet at Redcar by this stage would then just consist mainly of VDL Pulsar 2s, Gemini 2s (spare for the winter) & Optare Solo SRs (which are ideal for the 81) - with another ten Temsa Avenues able to be withdrawn once the Evoras fully enter service.

I'd imagine the whole lot of the Temsa's will be going at the same time. The Evora's at Luton are already going into service which will displace what they're displacing to Liverpool (forgot what it is) which will be displacing the Pulsars out of Merseyside pretty much asap. Have to remember these never ordered for the North East and we're diverted here with Liverpool taking the X4 Streetlites instead

(04 Jun 2025, 5:48 pm)Storx wrote I'd imagine the whole lot of the Temsa's will be going at the same time. The Evora's at Luton are already going into service which will displace what they're displacing to Liverpool (forgot what it is) which will be displacing the Pulsars out of Merseyside pretty much asap. Have to remember these never ordered for the North East and we're diverted here with Liverpool taking the X4 Streetlites instead

BIB: Their new Evoras are replacing their older batch of mixed lengths.

(04 Jun 2025, 6:34 pm)PH - BQA wrote BIB: Their new Evoras are replacing their older batch of mixed lengths.

Thanks for that, thought it was. I just knew there was some E200MMC's due from somewhere aswell and wasn't sure whether it was there's.

2857 is in redcar depot with mlt expired. Im guessing this may not see public service again

(04 Jun 2025, 4:31 pm)Mark66t wrote 1475  could float around  as 1409 replaced 1450 so technically 1475 could be a vehicle that could easy be non depo allocated and just go to Depo to depo when required ?

1475 won’t be floating around at all it’s now based at Stockton to replace 1450 original plan was for 1409 but dunno what’s happening with 1409

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(04 Jun 2025, 9:32 pm)Ryland wrote 2857 is in redcar depot with mlt expired. Im guessing this may not see public service again

I’ve been told that Redcar are losing a solo to Darlington doubt it be 2857 could be one of the others

(05 Jun 2025, 12:47 am)busesofthenortheast wrote 1475 won’t be floating around at all it’s now based at Stockton to replace 1450 original plan was for 1409 but dunno what’s happening with 1409

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I’ve been told that Redcar are losing a solo to Darlington doubt it be 2857 could be one of the others

Actually  what u been told is probably incorrect  why  would Darlington want a odd ball vehicle  there  when there don't have  a few ?

Understand Darlington are expected to receive some new town buses  which as been mentioned on fb  and  few weeks ago e200mmc may be transferred to Arriva Yorkshire

(05 Jun 2025, 7:43 am)Mark66t wrote Actually  what u been told is probably incorrect  why  would Darlington want a odd ball vehicle  there  when there don't have  a few ?

Understand Darlington are expected to receive some new town buses  which as been mentioned on fb  and  few weeks ago e200mmc may be transferred to Arriva Yorkshire

Incorrect - 2841 is due to transfer back to Darlington to operate the 16 when that contract passes from Stagecoach to Arriva at the end of the month. There isn't enough E200s to operate that and the present town network.

Darlington will be gaining the electric vehicles for the town network (bar the 17, which interworks with the 8, and the 18 as any electric vehicle will be unable to fit under the Railway Bridge at Albert Hill) sometime next year - understand it will be 7 full-size singles for the 2 and the remaining examples midibus-size for the rest of the town network.

Any rumours on any further B8 orders?

I imagine a fair chunk of the Pulsars can, and will, be displaced by electric single deckers, however I'd assume there are a fair number of routes which are currently operated by Pulsars which an electric bus still won't have the battery capacity to run?

The likes of the X12, X66/7, and X16 spring to mind given that many running boards will likely run the mileage close, and that's avoiding the fact that they're demanding express routes which won't line up with theoretical mileage in any case.

(05 Jun 2025, 7:52 am)Kuyoyo wrote Incorrect - 2841 is due to transfer back to Darlington to operate the 16 when that contract passes from Stagecoach to Arriva at the end of the month. There isn't enough E200s to operate that and the present town network.

Darlington will be gaining the electric vehicles for the town network (bar the 17, which interworks with the 8, and the 18 as any electric vehicle will be unable to fit under the Railway Bridge at Albert Hill) sometime next year - understand it will be 7 full-size singles for the 2 and the remaining examples midibus-size for the rest of the town network.

So does this mean 2857 is now withdrawn or is it going to be converted for the MFC bus

(05 Jun 2025, 10:18 pm)Ryland wrote So does this mean 2857 is now withdrawn or is it going to be converted for the MFC bus

4706 is withdrawn aswell
2857 is withdrawn from service been mentioned on fb