(02 Feb 2025, 7:54 pm)Storx wrote Space is the bigger problem and buses servives which are 10 minutes+ have no benefits serving one anyway. It just clogs up stands since the people wanting to use the services won't be waiting anyway for more than 5 minutes anyway.

But say those people which are on that 10 min service say the 22 might be coming off the 10 from Prudhoe or the 10B Rockwood Hills, yes they might only have a 5-10 min wait, but atleast it would be comferable, but lets face it most people wont be just waiting 5 mins especially with frequencies these days. 

But say coming home you just miss the 10B and youve got a 35 min wait, if everything in one place you can grab a coffee and just wait

(02 Feb 2025, 8:28 pm)Unber43 wrote But say those people which are on that 10 min service say the 22 might be coming off the 10 from Prudhoe or the 10B Rockwood Hills, yes they might only have a 5-10 min wait, but atleast it would be comferable, but lets face it most people wont be just waiting 5 mins especially with frequencies these days. 

But say coming home you just miss the 10B and youve got a 35 min wait, if everything in one place you can grab a coffee and just wait

There's a fair few services still like

1 (SNE), 12 (SNE), 21, 22 (SNE), 30/31/36, 37/38, 39/40, 62/63 - Just to pick a few.

Don't disagree though, the frequent buses just need to be nearby the bus station so it's a quick change that's all.

Btw the 10/10A/10B are three different routes imo and should be numbered seperately aswell but that's another thread. An A should be used where the route does a slight deviation mid route ie. one one going via one village and the other another village which combine back together with the same terminus for all.

Lord knows where this sits but as part of the soon to open Pilgrim St HM Govt office works, the old bus stop at the bottom of John Dobson street has been restored which will allow GNE services to set down essentially in the place they used to pre the works starting and hopefully reduce the snarl up at the Flix Bus stop

(08 Oct 2025, 9:34 pm)Ambassador wrote Lord knows where this sits but as part of the soon to open Pilgrim St HM Govt office works, the old bus stop at the bottom of John Dobson street has been restored which will allow GNE services to set down essentially in the place they used to pre the works starting and hopefully reduce the snarl up at the Flix Bus stop

Looks like Nexus are on the case: https://www.nexus.org.uk/news/item/nexus...ffice-move

I did particularly like the line "Bus operators Go North East, Arriva and Stagecoach, Northern Rail and Metro operator Nexus will use the intelligence gathered to plan suitable services and surrounding support." - I suppose there's a first for everything!

Most of the workers will be on a 60% hybrid arrangement, weighed towards office-based, so this is a massive increase in footfall that will be in that part of the City on a daily basis. This is really going to take some radical thinking by our standards in the North East, and I think re-routing some of the South Tyne traffic out of Newcastle has to form part of that.

Appreciate this may come under service suggestion and It will obviously depend on where there is a critical mass of people, but I'd like to see Lothian Buses style peak X express services mirroring the main routes as part of the solution. Although they'd probably be oversubscribed!

Something like a 56X from the estates of Washington (not the Galleries) and fast to Newcastle, a 10X from Crawcrook, avoiding Blaydon and fast via Scotswood Road or 27X from Lukes Lane, Monkton Lane and Pelaw then fast to Newcastle. Places unconnected with the Metro where the standard bus route takes way too long to be attractive.

(Yesterday, 8:16 pm)DodgepotMcDougal wrote Appreciate this may come under service suggestion and It will obviously depend on where there is a critical mass of people, but I'd like to see Lothian Buses style peak X express services mirroring the main routes as part of the solution. Although they'd probably be oversubscribed!

Something like a 56X from the estates of Washington (not the Galleries) and fast to Newcastle, a 10X from Crawcrook, avoiding Blaydon and fast via Scotswood Road or 27X from Lukes Lane, Monkton Lane and Pelaw then fast to Newcastle. Places unconnected with the Metro where the standard bus route takes way too long to be attractive.

That is exactly the style of service we have in my new home near Brisbane. The operator I work for have several local routes during the daytime and at peaks we run exactly the same route then express to the city and they do prove popular. There is a huge commuter flow towards the city of Brisbane though! So much so that off peak is very quiet as everyone is at work in the city…

(Yesterday, 8:16 pm)DodgepotMcDougal wrote Appreciate this may come under service suggestion and It will obviously depend on where there is a critical mass of people, but I'd like to see Lothian Buses style peak X express services mirroring the main routes as part of the solution. Although they'd probably be oversubscribed!

Something like a 56X from the estates of Washington (not the Galleries) and fast to Newcastle, a 10X from Crawcrook, avoiding Blaydon and fast via Scotswood Road or 27X from Lukes Lane, Monkton Lane and Pelaw then fast to Newcastle. Places unconnected with the Metro where the standard bus route takes way too long to be attractive.

You need a local authority who is willing to prioritise bus over private car too, providing buses a clear and direct passage into the city centre.

Newcastle are not that local authority.

(Yesterday, 8:16 pm)DodgepotMcDougal wrote Appreciate this may come under service suggestion and It will obviously depend on where there is a critical mass of people, but I'd like to see Lothian Buses style peak X express services mirroring the main routes as part of the solution. Although they'd probably be oversubscribed!

Something like a 56X from the estates of Washington (not the Galleries) and fast to Newcastle, a 10X from Crawcrook, avoiding Blaydon and fast via Scotswood Road or 27X from Lukes Lane, Monkton Lane and Pelaw then fast to Newcastle. Places unconnected with the Metro where the standard bus route takes way too long to be attractive.

(11 hours ago)tyresmoke wrote That is exactly the style of service we have in my new home near Brisbane. The operator I work for have several local routes during the daytime and at peaks we run exactly the same route then express to the city and they do prove popular. There is a huge commuter flow towards the city of Brisbane though! So much so that off peak is very quiet as everyone is at work in the city…

It'll be interesting to see when the peak would be for the new government hub in Newcastle. Most of the staff will probably be on flexi time, my office has that and people drift in any time between 7-10am and leave any time between 3.30-7pm. It could be hard to judge when that peak will come from there.

imo it'll be interesting to see if there's actually any change on the likes of 10/21/27 etc.

On paper there in theory shouldn't be, as you can't get a parking space if you live within a certain distance to the current ministry anyway and I'd imagine both these routes will be covered by it so people will already be commuting anyway but changing at Gateshead, or elsewhere.

You have to remember, these aren't new jobs.

The longer distance services are where the issues could be imo, especially those ex Stockton and Peterlee/Easington etc. The transport down those neck of the woods to Newcastle is generally piss poor and an hourly double decker for Peterlee isn't going to cope.