(07 Sep 2025, 5:14 pm)V514DFT wrote Was meant to ask before the last lot of changes, whats actually the crack with the 12/13, i assume the 13 doesnt run on Sundays

It does but just the bit that used to be the 12, in other words it runs to The Lonnen as the 13 and back into Shields as the 12, the same as early mornings and evenings.

Changes in for Sunderland and South Shields for 2nd November:


PB0002404/41
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 10 (11) South Shields Interchange Jarrow Bus Station

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Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 11 (10) Pennywell Grangetown

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Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 3 (13) Town End Farm, Hylton Castle Doxford Park, Farringdon

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Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 18 South Shields Interchange Brockley Whins

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Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 2 (4, 3, 1) South Shields Town Centre Biddick Hall Estate
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Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 4 Downhill Doxford Park

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Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 30 South Shields Interchange Boldon

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Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 7 (8) South Shields Interchange Marsden

PB0002404/17
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 16 Red House Estate Hastings Hill

(20 Sep 2025, 8:03 am)Michael wrote Changes in for Sunderland and South Shields for 2nd November:


PB0002404/41
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 10 (11) South Shields Interchange Jarrow Bus Station

PB0002404/16
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 11 (10) Pennywell Grangetown

PB0002404/20
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 3 (13) Town End Farm, Hylton Castle Doxford Park, Farringdon

PB0002404/44
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 18 South Shields Interchange Brockley Whins

PB0002404/21
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 2 (4, 3, 1) South Shields Town Centre Biddick Hall Estate
PB0002404/60

Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 4 Downhill Doxford Park

PB0002404/25
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 30 South Shields Interchange Boldon

PB0002404/22
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 7 (8) South Shields Interchange Marsden

PB0002404/17
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 16 Red House Estate Hastings Hill

Hmm, wonder what's changing in Shields as they just had the big revision to 3/4 etc not so long ago

(20 Sep 2025, 10:58 am)LVK 404L wrote Hmm, wonder what's changing in Shields as they just had the big revision to 3/4 etc not so long ago

If I had to guess it'll be timing adjustments.

(20 Sep 2025, 8:09 pm)F114TML wrote If I had to guess it'll be timing adjustments.

Hopefully might add a extra bus on to the 16 because the service is shocking atm.

(20 Sep 2025, 8:03 am)Michael wrote Changes in for Sunderland and South Shields for 2nd November:


PB0002404/41
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 10 (11) South Shields Interchange Jarrow Bus Station

PB0002404/16
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 11 (10) Pennywell Grangetown

PB0002404/20
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 3 (13) Town End Farm, Hylton Castle Doxford Park, Farringdon

PB0002404/44
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 18 South Shields Interchange Brockley Whins

PB0002404/21
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 2 (4, 3, 1) South Shields Town Centre Biddick Hall Estate
PB0002404/60

Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 4 Downhill Doxford Park

PB0002404/25
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 30 South Shields Interchange Boldon

PB0002404/22
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 7 (8) South Shields Interchange Marsden

PB0002404/17
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 16 Red House Estate Hastings Hill

Still nothing on the Stagecoach site for these changes....

Changes to Sunderland Service 3, 4, 10, 11, 13 and 16 from Sunday 2 November 2025

https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-up...:48:53:268

(Yesterday, 1:36 pm)Michael wrote Changes to Sunderland Service 3, 4, 10, 11, 13 and 16 from Sunday 2 November 2025

https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-up...:48:53:268

A set of boring changes , although I m interested to know why changing service number from
11 to 10 at the Alex Pub helps .

(Yesterday, 10:00 pm)Economic505 wrote A set of boring changes , although I m interested to know why changing service number from
11 to 10 at the Alex Pub helps .

I don't think the changes will make a difference at all... came out work earlier and the 16 was once again, horrendous.

(Yesterday, 10:00 pm)Economic505 wrote A set of boring changes , although I m interested to know why changing service number from
11 to 10 at the Alex Pub helps .

Some trips on an evening get sit time at ocean road, well it's unsafe to do it at the stop on ocean road, and I've never felt all the comfortable doing it at the shops, so the next option is the Alex. Trouble is doing that means you show up leaving a timing point like 5 minutes early.

It'll make little-to-no practical difference to the passenger, but it'll help drivers and the company out in helping reduce early running - it just formalises what already happens. Shame our calls to change the 11 route around Pallion haven't been heard though.

(Today, 6:52 am)I’m F114TML wrote Some trips on an evening get sit time at ocean road, well it's unsafe to do it at the stop on ocean road, and I've never felt all the comfortable doing it at the shops, so the next option is the Alex. Trouble is doing that means you show up leaving a timing point like 5 minutes early.

It'll make little-to-no practical difference to the passenger, but it'll help drivers and the company out in helping reduce early running - it just formalises what already happens. Shame our calls to change the 11 route around Pallion haven't been heard though.

Cheers for the reply. When you say unsafe, do you mean from a personal security point of view or road traffic? I don’t live in Sunderland anymore so not sure what Grangetown is like after dark.

(Today, 7:23 am)Economic505 wrote Cheers for the reply. When you say unsafe, do you mean from a personal security point of view or road traffic? I don’t live in Sunderland anymore so not sure what Grangetown is like after dark.

I mean road traffic. These trips are around 6-7pm. The timing point (currently) is the stop outside of the indian takeaway - almost all the time you either have to block ocean road or block a side street, or both.

The Alex isn't ideal either cos you're blocking parking spaces but what can you do

(Today, 6:52 am)F114TML wrote Some trips on an evening get sit time at ocean road, well it's unsafe to do it at the stop on ocean road, and I've never felt all the comfortable doing it at the shops, so the next option is the Alex. Trouble is doing that means you show up leaving a timing point like 5 minutes early.

It'll make little-to-no practical difference to the passenger, but it'll help drivers and the company out in helping reduce early running - it just formalises what already happens. Shame our calls to change the 11 route around Pallion haven't been heard though.

What was the issues in Pallion.

(8 hours ago)idiot wrote What was the issues in Pallion.

Parking on Midmoor Road, particularly on the junction where it turns left at Herons is a nightmare, even worse when you meet another bus there.

(6 hours ago)F114TML wrote Parking on Midmoor Road, particularly on the junction where it turns left at Herons is a nightmare, even worse when you meet another bus there.

It was a nightmare on the 593 when allocated a full size single decker. Both turning right from Pallion shops and coming down Midmoor Road turning left towards the shops. Even more fun when there is a HGV unloading.  Pallion, is a nightmare and needs proper parking facilities (although I doubt the council would build a car park) and the delivery drivers (Just Eat, Uber etc) just seem to dump their vehicles rather than park.