(9 hours ago)Theboyle92 wrote If they made the x24 limited stop along chester road I couldn’t see it being an issue since GNE pulled the 2 from the city center to park lane most passengers would rather wait for an x24 on fawcett street than walk up to john street and if the 16 is late on holmside then once again the x24 takes the brunt, ive seen passengers let the 62 or 8 etc go past and get on the x24 to get off at the chester, hospital or the wavendon. Making it limited stop will reduce the chance of one stop hoppers abusing an express service, if GNE can do it with the X20 I personally dont see why stagecoach can’t do it with the x24.


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Surely the point of the X24 is to let people from the West side of Sunderland have a direct bus to Newcastle?

If you made it limited stop along there then it's a bit pointless? Anyone sane is going to use the quicker 5 Metros an hour.

(9 hours ago)Storx wrote Surely the point of the X24 is to let people from the West side of Sunderland have a direct bus to Newcastle?

If you made it limited stop along there then it's a bit pointless? Anyone sane is going to use the quicker 5 Metros an hour.

Most of the main stops i.e hospital, wavendon, broadway, grindon mill and Hastings hill are within a 2 minute walk from little stops i.e chester gate, thats what kills the x24 running time as i say especially if a 16 is late, ive known it to be bang on time at hastings hill heading into sunderland yet be 7/8 minutes late into fawcett street not because of traffic its because its now taking the slack from a delayed 16 or passenger who dont want to walk from park lane down to fawcett street and with a 3 minute layover in town its already 5 minutes late onto its next trip and then it has a domino effect until the start of the peak when layover and running times are increased.


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(9 hours ago)Theboyle92 wrote Most of the main stops i.e hospital, wavendon, broadway, grindon mill and Hastings hill are within a 2 minute walk from little stops i.e chester gate, thats what kills the x24 running time as i say especially if a 16 is late, ive known it to be bang on time at hastings hill heading into sunderland yet be 7/8 minutes late into fawcett street not because of traffic its because its now taking the slack from a delayed 16 or passenger who dont want to walk from park lane down to fawcett street and with a 3 minute layover in town its already 5 minutes late onto its next trip and then it has a domino effect until the start of the peak when layover and running times are increased.


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Yeah get you, wonder how many people actually use it from end to end and whether another option would be to pull it from Sunderland like the X34 in South Shields does doing more estates or creating hospital links to somewhere that doesn't have them (or whatever). 

I'm sure there's a few but I can't really see why anyone would want to use it end to end when the Metro is much much quicker and I don't believe Stagecoach Sunderland Day Tickets are valid if I'm right?

(7 hours ago)Storx wrote Yeah get you, wonder how many people actually use it from end to end and whether another option would be to pull it from Sunderland like the X34 in South Shields does doing more estates or creating hospital links to somewhere that doesn't have them (or whatever). 

I'm sure there's a few but I can't really see why anyone would want to use it end to end when the Metro is much much quicker and I don't believe Stagecoach Sunderland Day Tickets are valid if I'm right?

Money.

£2.50 single each way on the bus vs £4.70 on Metro. Also, if you don't live on the route, the Dayrider Plus is cheaper than the Day Rover.

The X24s always seemed to be quite popular since it started, although the running times don't really take into account the short hop journeys or increased traffic congestion. Rush hour seems to be all day, every day now.

There are quite a few people who do use the service from end to end, and with the new Metros being quite uncomfortable with the sideways seating, lack of cushion in the seats & no windows to open, amongst other things, it wouldn't surprise me if more people opted for the X24 just to avoid what can be an anxiety provoking experience on the Metro.

The only real change I would make for the X24 is to have a few more journeys added on an evening, as the final journey out of Newcastle always seems to do really well with passengers, apart from that it seems to be a well established route doing well now...

(7 hours ago)F114TML wrote Money.

£2.50 single each way on the bus vs £4.70 on Metro. Also, if you don't live on the route, the Dayrider Plus is cheaper than the Day Rover.

Yeah that's fair, mind not a trade off I'd do personally, it's nearly twice as long.