(Yesterday, 9:27 am)ReDemPTiion wrote So it looks like 83000 could be leaving Stockton. The contract for the college requires a decker with a capacity of 72 it has a capacity of 68. It’s not allowed to do it. A driver has said that they’re not allowed to use it. Not sure if it’ll see service again.

I respect that a contract is a contract but surely the college could allow some leniency here, they're getting a brand new electric bus which has 4 seats less that the contract, it's not like they're trying to run it with a midibus with a stupid number of standees allowed (ie. what Gateshead Taxis do).

(Yesterday, 9:39 am)F114TML wrote Why am I not surprised.

I don't see why it won't see service though.

Depends on if they can keep it or not. No point in putting miles on it if they’re going to send it elsewhere. Should keep it in the north east and give it to Sunderland or Slatyford if they don’t keep it.

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(Yesterday, 10:59 am)Storx wrote I respect that a contract is a contract but surely the college could allow some leniency here, they're getting a brand new electric bus which has 4 seats less that the contract, it's not like they're trying to run it with a midibus with a stupid number of standees allowed (ie. what Gateshead Taxis do).

Might be the case of that’s how many students are using it and the driver can’t go above capacity due to the restrictions. Hopefully they can find a solution but 80000 seems to do it fine to they might just keep that

(Yesterday, 11:31 am)ReDemPTiion wrote Might be the case of that’s how many students are using it and the driver can’t go above capacity due to the restrictions. Hopefully they can find a solution but 80000 seems to do it fine to they might just keep that

Aye possibly, unsure how many use it - never seen it tbh.

83000 staying at stockton depot it 80000 is leave stockton depot .l

(Yesterday, 10:59 am)Storx wrote I respect that a contract is a contract but surely the college could allow some leniency here, they're getting a brand new electric bus which has 4 seats less that the contract, it's not like they're trying to run it with a midibus with a stupid number of standees allowed (ie. what Gateshead Taxis do).

It’s a Durham County Council contract to a secondary school that is the issue - would appear nobody checked the capacity with the contract spec! Contract spec is 72 seats as the council require every child to have a seat.

(Yesterday, 2:12 pm)Teessider2014 wrote It’s a Durham County Council contract to a secondary school that is the issue - would appear nobody checked the capacity with the contract spec! Contract spec is 72 seats as the council require every child to have a seat.

Yeah that's fair then, makes more sense then I guess. The 72 is a high number mind, sure quite a few of the electric deckers are around that number or close to it either way. Assume its due to space took up by batteries.

(Yesterday, 12:39 pm)Glen1974 wrote 83000 staying at stockton depot it 80000 is leave stockton depot .l

That was the original plan Glen but 83000 doesn’t have enough seats for the college contract. There’s a chance 80000 will stay permanently instead

So are still keeping 83000 then

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I think stockton should keep 83000 at stockton depot there have 2 double deckers like us to.

(Yesterday, 8:24 pm)the Glen1974 wrote So are still keeping 83000 then

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I think stockton should keep 83000 at stockton depot there have 2 double deckers like us to.

It would be good to keep both deckers but at the moment if they having to make a choice it will likely be the brand new Yutong 83000 that will be leaving as the priority will be having a bus that is suitable for the contract so 8000 seems the most likely to be staying. If they wanted to deckers that’s capable of doing the contract then it looks like 83000 might have to be swapped with another electric decker from elsewhere. This really should have been checked when doing the order though. 

Saying that though Hartlepool seems to have got away with using darts and E200s on the UTC when I thought that was meant to be a decker as well so god knows what will happen here. If some of the enviro 300s are going to be spare soon with more yutongs arriving at Sunderland and Newcastle then hopefully Hartlepool can get them to improve the fleet here, the current fleet is still struggling on E200s quite a few of the 360 and 364s are not exactly sounding to healthy.

(Today, 12:50 am)col87 wrote It would be good to keep both deckers but at the moment if they having to make a choice it will likely be the brand new Yutong 83000 that will be leaving as the priority will be having a bus that is suitable for the contract so 8000 seems the most likely to be staying. If they wanted to deckers that’s capable of doing the contract then it looks like 83000 might have to be swapped with another electric decker from elsewhere. This really should have been checked when doing the order though. 

Saying that though Hartlepool seems to have got away with using darts and E200s on the UTC when I thought that was meant to be a decker as well so god knows what will happen here. If some of the enviro 300s are going to be spare soon with more yutongs arriving at Sunderland and Newcastle then hopefully Hartlepool can get them to improve the fleet here, the current fleet is still struggling on E200s quite a few of the 360 and 364s are not exactly sounding to healthy.

It's the Sedgefield Community College contract 5197 from Wynyard which has the decker requirement, the UTC services can all run with single deckers (80000 appears on Mon/Tue/Wed afternoons however due to interworking with the 5197)

If it was good for school and colleges run that they would have ordered the new yutong U11dd double decker or they got EV400 double decker instead .

(Today, 1:27 am)Jimmi wrote It's the Sedgefield Community College contract 5197 from Wynyard which has the decker requirement, the UTC services can all run with single deckers (80000 appears on Mon/Tue/Wed afternoons however due to interworking with the 5197)

No am sure the UTC was originally meant to be deckers or at least full size buses when it started.

Could they not upseat the U11DD or E400EV in anyway?