(Yesterday, 2:33 pm)Mike_98 wrote Ahh ok. The MMC's look great in the JM livery along with the streetlites. I do think they need to start merging the Streetlites into one area though instead of having them dotted around places. Personally, I think Stockton would be a perfect fit for alot of the north east Streetlites. They have a lot of non hill climb demanding routes like the 7,8,9,15,16,17's,28's,29. Depending on what Redcar have ordered for the 63, some could be sent over that way too for the 63 if they don't get electrics. Pulsars ain't gonna last forever. Will be good to see some MMC's coming for Stockton. Assuming there for the 5/5A?

I'm not to sure if they will do the B9's into Journey Mark unless they plan on transferring them elsewhere. However, they're super unique to Arriva as they don't really operate many B9's. If they are changing anything on them, they may go for what they did on the Evoras and do the Yorkshire Coast Connection style Livery on them but Arriva sometimes change their plans.

Also, whats with Arriva removing some of the Journey Mark Stripes off some of the buses. Surely theres a reason behind it.

Good question. Was it 1397 that lost its JM stripes too?

(Yesterday, 2:33 pm)Mike_98 wrote Ahh ok. The MMC's look great in the JM livery along with the streetlites. I do think they need to start merging the Streetlites into one area though instead of having them dotted around places. Personally, I think Stockton would be a perfect fit for alot of the north east Streetlites. They have a lot of non hill climb demanding routes like the 7,8,9,15,16,17's,28's,29. Depending on what Redcar have ordered for the 63, some could be sent over that way too for the 63 if they don't get electrics. Pulsars ain't gonna last forever. Will be good to see some MMC's coming for Stockton. Assuming there for the 5/5A?

I'm not to sure if they will do the B9's into Journey Mark unless they plan on transferring them elsewhere. However, they're super unique to Arriva as they don't really operate many B9's. If they are changing anything on them, they may go for what they did on the Evoras and do the Yorkshire Coast Connection style Livery on them but Arriva sometimes change their plans.

Also, whats with Arriva removing some of the Journey Mark Stripes off some of the buses. Surely theres a reason behind it.

If you want to consolidate the Streetlite's to somewhere moving Darlington's to Ashington in return for Pulsar's would be a useful move.

Not saying I particularly want them up here but they'd be fine for 1, 2, 57/57A and 553 which hopefully after investment will be the only saloon routes left. If the X9 stays saloon they could probably do it aswell

Something like

Ashington:
1574 - 1578/81/2/3 | 1/2
1602 - 1606 | 57/57A
1584 - 1587/1607 | Spares

Blyth: 
1588 | 553
1589 | Spare
1590 - 1594 | X9, if not upgraded to DD otherwise send to Durham to join their sisters.


It means Northumbria would be Pulsar free and those routes realistically aren't ever going to be top of any lists for investment

1602 - 12 would be useless at Stockton since their shorter in length, similar that they can be at Darlington currently. The shorter Saloons on the 57/57A would be handy as Tillmouth Avenue in Holywell isn't the easiest place to have full length singles trundling along. 

It all depends on whether there will be enough deckers for the Ashington expresses though.

I’ve said it before but it is a shame that the ex Whitby P&R DB300s could have not have retuned and be modded and reintegrated to the Blyth fleet – as while the 59 plate DB300s at Blyth are looking worn out (I doubt they were given northing more than the very bare minimum TLC), they continue to press on with their duties and have aged far more gracefully than their Pulsar counterparts and especially the E400s of the same era, and probably have a few years of life left in them, and prevented a few peak time Newcastle boards from being overcrowded. I guess the Euro 6 conversion is not worth their book value. Perhaps it is a cautionary tale if a couple of the 16 plate E400mmc’s take over their duties but remain out of sync with future mods on the rest of the fleet.

(Yesterday, 11:09 pm)solsburian wrote I’ve said it before but it is a shame that the ex Whitby P&R DB300s could have not have retuned and be modded and reintegrated to the Blyth fleet – as while the 59 plate DB300s at Blyth are looking worn out (I doubt they were given northing more than the very bare minimum TLC), they continue to press on with their duties and have aged far more gracefully than their Pulsar counterparts and especially the E400s of the same era, and probably have a few years of life left in them, and prevented a few peak time Newcastle boards from being overcrowded. I guess the Euro 6 conversion is not worth their book value. Perhaps it is a cautionary tale if a couple of the 16 plate E400mmc’s take over their duties but remain out of sync with future mods on the rest of the fleet.

tbh I'm surprised they're getting scrapped, at all.

https://www.busandcoachcentre.co.uk/info...c-for-sale - There's ex London dual doors being sold for £24,000 still so they still have some value. I don't know how much the scrapper gives but be surprised if it's anywhere near that.

Outside of scrapping, Selby probably would be the best bet rather than E6 mods for Blyth really - they're really struggling down there and they're all part of the same batch, might help them get along until something newer comes as I don't believe this E400MMC order coming now is replacing them (that's the Hybrids and remaining E400's).

Side note the hybrids of the early to mid 10's really were junk; with Stagecoach, Arriva and GoNorthEast now all getting shot of the things, well before they should be going.

(Yesterday, 11:33 pm)Storx wrote tbh I'm surprised they're getting scrapped, at all.

https://www.busandcoachcentre.co.uk/info...c-for-sale - There's ex London dual doors being sold for £24,000 still so they still have some value. I don't know how much the scrapper gives but be surprised if it's anywhere near that.

Outside of scrapping, Selby probably would be the best bet rather than E6 mods for Blyth really - they're really struggling down there and they're all part of the same batch, might help them get along until something newer comes as I don't believe this E400MMC order coming now is replacing them (that's the Hybrids and remaining E400's).

Side note the hybrids of the early to mid 10's really were junk; with Stagecoach, Arriva and GoNorthEast now all getting shot of the things, well before they should be going.

The ex Northumbria Hybrids moveout resulted in Arriva doing a bit of PR gaslighting.

Ashington have had 7522 and 7509 on loan, both of these can do Newcastle CAZ so have been on X21 and X22, but still they have missed a few trips. The one before 7522 (15:25) didn't show up. 7522 is still well capable, has had an easier life than the other 14 plates. 7522 did only the 3 years at Ashington on X21 and X22 then a lot of years at Jesmond with the 57 plates for the 43/44/45.

But even with 2 vehicles on loan they have missed trips. Double decker on 434, even though 3052 was available (on 57) but 3051 is barely ever on the road.