I can only agree. Damaging any vehicle you are responsible for should be disciplinary matter and potential return to the driving school. In this situation though depot managers would be ove-worked and their wouldn't be enough hours in the day to re-train drivers.who shouldn't really need it.
I had the mis-fortune to travel with one such only this morning. In the first instance he couldn't operate the vehicle correctly and lost time. Then when he worked things out drove,in my opinion, dangerously to make his time up.
It would have been worth reporting but have you tried engaging with Arriva Customer services??

Quite a few deckers currently awaiting maintenance at redcar
Usual problems
7401 and 7404

7402 was on the 62 yesterday

7406 was on the 62 on Thursday

7598 was last out Thursday presuming its being prepped for park and ride branding

7578/9/99 are still out on loan

(13 Mar 2026, 6:00 pm)Superman wrote They shouldn't be damaging panels at all. It's careless driving frankly! The route is not difficult and will have been risk assessed for the vehicles they use.

Poor driving standards from so called professional drivers.

It's cars to blame who are inpatient  and force there way through  a car caused 4504 damage  so it's not careless bus driving  it's idiot car drivers with no common sense to let the bus through  how I know that about 4504 i was on board at the time

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(15 Mar 2026, 7:29 am)Ryland wrote Quite a few deckers currently awaiting maintenance at redcar
Usual problems
7401 and 7404

7402 was on the 62 yesterday

7406 was on the 62 on Thursday

7598 was last out Thursday presuming its being prepped for park and ride branding

7578/9/99 are still out on loan

7404 01 are having a few issues again  unfortunately it what's a b9 love to do work for awhile then mess up again

(15 Mar 2026, 8:17 am)Dan manger wrote It's cars to blame who are inpatient  and force there way through  a car caused 4504 damage  so it's not careless bus driving  it's idiot car drivers with no common sense to let the bus through  how I know that about 4504 i was on board at the time

I'd concur with this assessment.  I was on a bus once that had to go along a section of road with cars packed all along one side, with only room for one line of traffic to go through.  Part way down this section, a car appeared from the opposite direction, entered the same section of road, then proceeded to drive onto and along the pavement rather than wait five seconds for the bus to clear.....

(15 Mar 2026, 9:18 am)Ianthegoon wrote I'd concur with this assessment.  I was on a bus once that had to go along a section of road with cars packed all along one side, with only room for one line of traffic to go through.  Part way down this section, a car appeared from the opposite direction, entered the same section of road, then proceeded to drive onto and along the pavement rather than wait five seconds for the bus to clear.....

Some car drivers are just complet hutter idiots these days

7578 7599 have returned back to Redcar Whitby from been on.loan.to Ashington &Blyth

(13 Mar 2026, 10:50 am)robisdave4554 wrote How come so many Evoras have damaged side panels? 4504 being the latest example and not just a scarpe! You'd think Dormanstown drivers would have more care and respect for their fleet.

The roundabout in Saltburn and the crash barriers on Saltburn bank - just two places on the route that have been decorated in Arriva colours.

Stockton depot aren't perfect  1475 has a pice dangling off yesterday

(17 Mar 2026, 8:02 am)Dan manger wrote Stockton depot aren't perfect  1475 has a pice dangling off yesterday

Just because 1475 has a panel dangling down doesn’t mean Stockton aren’t perfect, the engineers at Stockton will sort it out

Lets be honest. The drivers on the X4 do have a torturous tine of it. A potentially punishing schedule to maintain, difficult passengers to deal with and the acting as an information point for the many tourists. Then of course we have to take into account the route conditions. Two areas have just been mentioned? Saltburn Station Square with people's inconsiderate parking - would double yellow lines make a difference? And of course the notorious hairpins on Saltburn Bank! How many times have I being sat on an X4, the driver has swung out to get position and still some drivers insist on coming down. At least the Evoras have the pulling power to make things easier.

(17 Mar 2026, 9:37 am)busesofthenortheast wrote Just because 1475 has a panel dangling down doesn’t mean Stockton aren’t perfect, the engineers at Stockton will sort it out

Yr the kid who's loves to cause arguments  we'll u won't with me  i l know what I'm taking about

Seemingly not. My reply was aimed towards those talking about the issues faced by X4 drivers. I was trying to be sensibly.

(17 Mar 2026, 4:21 pm)Dan manger wrote Yr the kid who's loves to cause arguments  we'll u won't with me  i l know what I'm taking about

I’m not causing any arguments at all I’m just simply pointing out the truth

7578 tracking on the x93
7599 back at redcar and was on the 62

(17 Mar 2026, 5:37 pm)Ryland wrote 7578 tracking on the x93
7599 back at redcar and was on the 62

I got told 7598 was being wrapped up in the new Park & Ride livery not sure if that is true or not but haven’t seen anything yet

7403 is tracking as an x4 today. Tracked yesterday as a 95

(18 Mar 2026, 7:21 am)Ryland wrote 7403 is tracking as an x4 today. Tracked yesterday as a 95

It's 4501 I seen it

1439 has had its frequenta swoop removed

(18 Mar 2026, 7:23 pm)Ryland wrote 1439 has had its frequenta swoop removed

1440 on loan to Durham

(17 Mar 2026, 5:49 pm)busesofthenortheast wrote I got told 7598 was being wrapped up in the new Park & Ride livery not sure if that is true or not but haven’t seen anything yet

I’ve seen a photo of 7598 through people that work for arriva and it is indeed getting branded as we speak, it’s a newer updated version of the previous one carried by 7609/10

(19 Mar 2026, 11:29 pm)Stu1639 wrote I’ve seen a photo of 7598 through people that work for arriva and it is indeed getting branded as we speak, it’s a newer updated version of the previous one carried by 7609/10

Are you able to share the photo or not mate

(20 Mar 2026, 12:22 am)busesofthenortheast wrote Are you able to share the photo or not mate

Four Enviro400MMCs have recently transferred from Arriva Midlands to the North East fleet. Two of these are destined for Whitby’s Park & Ride P1/P2 services, which will be reintroduced at the end of the month. 7598 (YX72OEB), after a few weeks running for Redcar and Whitby, is currently at Durham depot receiving the overall wrap for the new Park & Ride livery. 19/03/26




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(19 Mar 2026, 11:29 pm)Stu1639 wrote I’ve seen a photo of 7598 through people that work for arriva and it is indeed getting branded as we speak, it’s a newer updated version of the previous one carried by 7609/10

I seen it it looks absolutely smart ? suites the mmc to

1430 is now back at Redcar  and on the 62 this morning

Does anyone have any more info on Temsa Avenue 4718 being preserved in a museum yet? What museum and when?

https://flic.kr/p/2s3d9UH

7979 back at redcar
1376 looks in very sorry state at redcar depot. Looks like the engine been removed. Could this be the first pulsar at redcar to be withdrawn

(21 Mar 2026, 2:06 pm)OrangeArrow49 wrote Does anyone have any more info on Temsa Avenue 4718 being preserved in a museum yet? What museum and when?

Nothings been officially said but It’s most likely going to be Wythall in the West Midlands. Arriva recently donated a Scania there

(21 Mar 2026, 9:10 pm)Ryland wrote https://flic.kr/p/2s3d9UH

7979 back at redcar
1376 looks in very sorry state at redcar depot.  Looks like the engine been removed. Could this be the first pulsar at redcar to be withdrawn

Car hit the back end on Wednesday  it's awaiting new part

(21 Mar 2026, 9:21 pm)220631612 wrote Nothings been officially said but It’s most likely going to be Wythall in the West Midlands. Arriva recently donated a Scania there

Thanks for your reply. Hopefully something is confirmed at some point. Wythall Transport Museum worth a visit or not?

I seen 7598 and it looks amazing