Bit of a pointless post...

Was looking through the WWE photos from The Metty Dome...came across this one with my mate in



If Daniel Bryan, Bray Wyatt and Osama Bin Laden could all have babies together, he would be the product of it

Well, Sting debuted at the Survivor Series last night and I can't help but feel it was a little anticlimactic.

Despite his on-air role being on the line last night, I guess we'll be seeing HHH vs. Sting at some point.

(24 Nov 2014, 11:45 am)AdamY wrote Well, Sting debuted at the Survivor Series last night and I can't help but feel it was a little anticlimactic.

Despite his on-air role being on the line last night, I guess we'll be seeing HHH vs. Sting at some point.

The Rumble or WM31 perhaps

Riddle me this, Riddle me that, whos afraid of the Big Black Bat, Its Showtime Wooooooooooooooooo

(24 Nov 2014, 11:45 am)AdamY wrote Well, Sting debuted at the Survivor Series last night and I can't help but feel it was a little anticlimactic.

Despite his on-air role being on the line last night, I guess we'll be seeing HHH vs. Sting at some point.

Will be watching it Tonight when I get home, thanks for the Spoiler Alert, nevertheless itll be great to watch.

I'm tempted to start watching again with Sting. Loved him in WCW, especially when he spent most of 97 tormenting the nWo.

(25 Nov 2014, 11:05 pm)aureolin wrote I'm tempted to start watching again with Sting. Loved him in WCW, especially when he spent most of 97 tormenting the nWo.

Disappointed he wasnt on RAW to start Building towards a Match with Triple H.

(25 Nov 2014, 11:05 pm)aureolin wrote I'm tempted to start watching again with Sting. Loved him in WCW, especially when he spent most of 97 tormenting the nWo.

I take it you weren't fond of his TNA run?

After 11 Months to the exact since CM Punk walked out on WWE, CM Punk has finally spoken on his Departure from WWE with longtime friend Colt Cabana, on Cabanas Wrestling Podcast, the Interview lasts 1 Hour 45 Minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHdf1rrAFBc

(27 Nov 2014, 2:59 pm)NEBCD Malarkey wrote After 11 Months to the exact since CM Punk walked out on WWE, CM Punk has finally spoken on his Departure from WWE with longtime friend Colt Cabana, on Cabanas Wrestling Podcast, the Interview lasts 1 Hour 45 Minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHdf1rrAFBc

I heard somewhere Punk is in/taken a legal battle against WWE, something to do with merchandise and his likeness...I am just taking it with a pinch of salt

Though I dunno how that could happen, surely the Merch belongs to WWE

If CM Punk is owed money from merchandise then he's legally entitled to it irrespective of whether he's employed by the company or not. Around two decades ago, a court ruled in favour of Jesse "The Body" Ventura claim to royalties on merchandise featuring his likeness despite not being employed by company time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Ventura#Litigation

In 1987, while negotiating his contract as a WWF commentator, Ventura waived his rights to royalties on videotape sales when he was falsely told that only feature performers received such royalties. In 1991, having discovered that other non-feature performers received royalties, Ventura brought an action for fraud, misappropriation of publicity rights, and quantum meruit in Minnesota state court against Titan Sports. Titan removed the case to federal court, and Ventura won an $801,333 jury verdict on the last claim. The judgment was affirmed on appeal, and the case,[29] 65 F.3d 725 (8th Cir.1995), is an important result in the law of restitution. As a result, Ventura's commentary is edited out on most releases from WWE Home Video.[30]

The person, Phil Brooks, devised the character, CM Punk, long before WWE came calling. If Punk had debuted in a WWE-owned company then WWE could feasibly lay claim to the character. This is what happened with The Dudley Boys. They debuted and wrestled in ECW from 1996-99 before moving on to WWF/E. Vince McMahon bought the rights to ECW when they folded in 2001 which included television and merchandise assets dating back to 1995. Because of this, McMahon essentially owned the rights to The Dudley Boys forcing them to change to their current, Team 3D moniker when they moved onto TNA.

(27 Nov 2014, 5:16 pm)AdamY wrote If CM Punk is owed money from merchandise then he's legally entitled to it irrespective of whether he's employed by the company or not. Around two decades ago, a court ruled in favour of Jesse "The Body" Ventura claim to royalties on merchandise featuring his likeness despite not being employed by company time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Ventura#Litigation


The person, Phil Brooks, devised the character, CM Punk, long before WWE came calling. If Punk had debuted in a WWE-owned company then WWE could feasibly lay claim to the character. This is what happened with The Dudley Boys. They debuted and wrestled in ECW from 1996-99 before moving on to WWF/E. Vince McMahon bought the rights to ECW when they folded in 2001 which included television and merchandise assets dating back to 1995. Because of this, McMahon essentially owned the rights to The Dudley Boys forcing them to change to their current, Team 3D moniker when they moved onto TNA.

So essentially if he actually is taking legal action, WWE would be laughed out of the courtroom...

So does the name and anything relating to it legally belong to Phil Brooks, I know sod all about business/corporate law...

Did Jim Hellwig take action against WWE in he 90's over the Ultimate Warrior name, going as far as changing his name legally to Warrior or have I imagined that lol

(27 Nov 2014, 7:02 pm)marxistafozzski wrote So essentially if he actually is taking legal action, WWE would be laughed out of the courtroom...

So does the name and anything relating to it legally belong to Phil Brooks, I know sod all about business/corporate law...

Did Jim Hellwig take action against WWE in he 90's over the Ultimate Warrior name, going as far as changing his name legally to Warrior or have I imagined that lol

A summary of the Podcast in case you didnt watch it all, I didnt as I had to go out but did listen to the first half hour, I do intend listening to the rest at somepoint.

• He left after the Royal Rumble mainly because of his health. He talked about working with broken ribs, a concussion and bad knees during his last months with the company. Punk was so sick during last November's European tour that he was throwing up and dry heaving every night after his matches. He had a fever for months and no appetite. WWE doctors gave him so many antibiotics that he had an accident in the ring on SmackDown, all while watching his paychecks shrink. He said it was the worst he's ever felt in his life.
  
  
• He suffered a concussion early during the Royal Rumble match but still worked. He passed a concussion test the next day and called the testing "bullshit." WWE informed he passed but wanted him to run the ring ropes and evaluate him. Punk then demanded that they just decide he has a concussion and admitted that he had been trying to deny he was hurt and just tough it out.
  
  
• Punk says that same day he was being pressured about taking a drug test and signing visas for future tours instead of listening to his requests for help because something was obviously wrong. Punk then told Vince McMahon and Triple H that he was going home. Punk says he told off Triple H about cutting off his momentum in 2011 and complained to Vince for stifling Punk's creativity. He says he told them both it was garbage how Daniel Bryan wasn't being considered for the WrestleMania XXX main event. Punk says he told them he didn't want to do this anymore and was done. Vince was in tears when he hugged Punk goodbye and told him he was family.
  
  
• However, Punk was actually fired from WWE. After he left in January, he was told a few weeks later by Vince McMahon through text message that he was being suspended for two months. This was the day before Vince told WWE shareholders that Punk had taken a sabbatical. Punk heard from no one in WWE once the suspension was over and received termination papers for breach of contract on his wedding day in June.
  
  
• Punk says he hired a very vicious lawyer to go after WWE and fight their claim of breach of contract. In the end, he got a settlement that gave him everything he asked for and more. Punk's not allowed to talk about the settlement. He said they are done and will never have a working relationship again. Punk says WWE wanted to issue a joint statement with him but he told them to "fuck off." WWE was worried he would go to TNA but Punk's lawyer told WWE that he despises wrestling now and will never wrestle again.
  
  
• He said wrestling Ryback took "20 years off his life" and described Ryback as "steroid guy."
  
  

(27 Nov 2014, 7:17 pm)NEBCD Malarkey wrote A summary of the Podcast in case you didnt watch it all, I didnt as I had to go out but did listen to the first half hour, I do intend listening to the rest at somepoint.

• He left after the Royal Rumble mainly because of his health. He talked about working with broken ribs, a concussion and bad knees during his last months with the company. Punk was so sick during last November's European tour that he was throwing up and dry heaving every night after his matches. He had a fever for months and no appetite. WWE doctors gave him so many antibiotics that he had an accident in the ring on SmackDown, all while watching his paychecks shrink. He said it was the worst he's ever felt in his life.
  
  
• He suffered a concussion early during the Royal Rumble match but still worked. He passed a concussion test the next day and called the testing "bullshit." WWE informed he passed but wanted him to run the ring ropes and evaluate him. Punk then demanded that they just decide he has a concussion and admitted that he had been trying to deny he was hurt and just tough it out.
  
  
• Punk says that same day he was being pressured about taking a drug test and signing visas for future tours instead of listening to his requests for help because something was obviously wrong. Punk then told Vince McMahon and Triple H that he was going home. Punk says he told off Triple H about cutting off his momentum in 2011 and complained to Vince for stifling Punk's creativity. He says he told them both it was garbage how Daniel Bryan wasn't being considered for the WrestleMania XXX main event. Punk says he told them he didn't want to do this anymore and was done. Vince was in tears when he hugged Punk goodbye and told him he was family.
  
  
• However, Punk was actually fired from WWE. After he left in January, he was told a few weeks later by Vince McMahon through text message that he was being suspended for two months. This was the day before Vince told WWE shareholders that Punk had taken a sabbatical. Punk heard from no one in WWE once the suspension was over and received termination papers for breach of contract on his wedding day in June.
  
  
• Punk says he hired a very vicious lawyer to go after WWE and fight their claim of breach of contract. In the end, he got a settlement that gave him everything he asked for and more. Punk's not allowed to talk about the settlement. He said they are done and will never have a working relationship again. Punk says WWE wanted to issue a joint statement with him but he told them to "fuck off." WWE was worried he would go to TNA but Punk's lawyer told WWE that he despises wrestling now and will never wrestle again.
  
  
• He said wrestling Ryback took "20 years off his life" and described Ryback as "steroid guy."
  
  

Will have a listen soon

(27 Nov 2014, 9:11 pm)marxistafozzski wrote Will have a listen soon

Its well worth listening to.

(27 Nov 2014, 9:47 pm)NEBCD Malarkey wrote Its well worth listening to.

There is a Part 2 Next Week with Punk, where he will Answer people Questions and Emails etc, but nevertheless this is a great listen and personally I would love to here WWEs side of this Story.

(27 Nov 2014, 10:18 pm)NEBCD Malarkey wrote There is a Part 2 Next Week with Punk, where he will Answer people Questions and Emails etc, but nevertheless this is a great listen and personally I would love to here WWEs side of this Story.

Yep, there is always 2 sides to nearly every story, I would hope WWE did not bury him in a similar way to the Self Destruction of the Ultimate Warrior DVD

(27 Nov 2014, 10:56 pm)marxistafozzski wrote Yep, there is always 2 sides to nearly every story, I would hope WWE did not bury him in a similar way to the Self Destruction of the Ultimate Warrior DVD

He's reportedly pissed WWE off to the extent where he's pretty much receiving the 'Benoit Treatment' at the moment.

I don't think WWE will signing his praises anytime soon.  

Going to see WWE next April at the Metty Dome

(28 Nov 2014, 9:37 am)marxistafozzski wrote Going to see WWE next April at the Metty Dome

Have you done a TV taping of raw before?

(28 Nov 2014, 10:10 am)aureolin wrote Have you done a TV taping of raw before?

No mate...would love to though, done 2 house shows up to now, Newcastle in 2005 and Belfast in 2008...

The TV Tapings never seem to come further North than Sheffield, normally Manchester, Birmingham and up the smoke...

I seen you mention TV Tapings in the past and I have heard others say the Atmosphere at a live taping is something else...If they ever bring Raw TV to the Metty, then I will goto hell and back trying to get a ticket...

Only live taping I remember at Newcastle was the Insurrextion Pay-Per-View in June 2003

Insurrextion Newcastle Results

Tickets for it seemed to be rarer than a set of teeth in a chicken

Dunno how they've done this, but it's a really good edit! Had me convinced at first.

Colt Cobana Art of Wrestling Podcast (CM Punk Part 2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkROZ-vJYTE

Great Podcast with Stone Cold, talking to Vince McMahon

http://dai.ly/x2bnc1r

They talk about a lot of things over 70 minutes...Recap below

- Vince McMahon says subscriptions are good for the Network, and the satisfaction rate is 96 percent. He hopes to have the Network running in England by January, but nothing is set in stone.

- Austin and McMahon argue over what is sports entertainment and what is professional wrestling. Vince says they tell stories, what his dad promoted were pro wrestling. He says some of the match don't hit. He said he liked the show tonight.

- McMahon seems to be giving really corporate, politically correct answers. Austin says that there aren't any other options out there for wrestlers, and mentions TNA, but says they aren't in the same league. Austin says that there's no room to piss anyone off, and McMahon says "well then just don't piss anyone off."

- McMahon points to Dean Ambrose, Seth Rollins, Roman Reigns and Bray Wyatt as guys who are looking to grab the brass ring. He says today's locker room isn't as ambitious as in Austin's heyday because everyone is afraid to fail. Austin challenges the roster to step up.

- Austin says McMahon doesn't have a magic wand to get someone over. Austin asks what Cesaro is lacking and McMahon says he hasn't connected yet and is lacking in charisma, and lacking "it." Austin disagrees and says he organically started to like him and thought that the Heyman pairing slowed him down after the Real Americans split.

Austin asks what he can do to fix that as a promoter, and McMahon says he doesn't have the answer to everything but something is missing. He can't pinpoint it, but something is missing.

- McMahon says no one man has the answer to booking organizations and he can't do it all. He says that it's a mammoth organization. He then changes the subject to pushing Nick Bockwinkel into a pool.

- Austin asks where Shane McMahon is and Vince says he's working in Japan, and has his finger in a lot of pots and is living a family life. He says a family business is difficult, and being a dad in a family business and having your wife work with you can be rough.

Vince says he didn't want Shane & Stephanie to get into the business necessarily, but wanted them to do what they wanted for themselves. He talks about his early days in the business and working for his father.

- Austin asks if Vince wants to talk to CM Punk. Vince apologizes to CM Punk for firing him on his wedding day, and said legal and talent relations aren't always on the same page, and it was a coincidence. He doesn't want to air dirty laundry on TV, but hopes that one day they can work together again.

- Austin talks about how he walked out in 2002, and McMahon said he was so hard headed that he was impossible to deal with. They talk about the storyline that forced Austin out, and Austin said leaving was the worst professional decision he ever made. He said that while he was gone Vince left three voicemails trying to reach out, but wouldn't talk to him. Finally after Jim Ross sent him a card, he spoke to JR and finally arranged a meeting with Vince.

Austin asks if there's anyone around to bridge the gap between WWE and CM Punk. McMahon says he wishes there was, apparently forgetting Punk's wife works for him.

- Austin says when he came back in 2003, Vince wanted to fine him $650,000 but was talked down to $250,000. Austin jokingly asks if he could have got it down to $125,000. McMahon said that Austin deserved it for what happened.

- McMahon is asked when the decision was made to end the Undertaker's streak. Vince says nobody wants to give back to the business more than the Undertaker. McMahon says it was about timing, and there was nobody on the roster that would have fit in that role, andUndertaker agreed. Austin called out McMahon saying there's no way that was Undertaker's call. Vince says that's true, and he ultimately made the decision and thinks he made the right call at the right time.

Austin asks why Brock isn't on TV, and Vince says he's a special attraction. He compares Brock being on TV to Jake Roberts bringing a big python in the ring. If you see it each week, you become numb to it. He feels the story draws fans in, not the title.

- Austin asks about Randy Savage in the Hall of Fame. McMahon says yes without hesitation, but doesn't have a timetable.

- McMahon is asked what took so long to get Sting there. He said times are different and you have to roll with the punches.

- McMahon says Ted Turner's business motive was to hurt the other guy, and his business motive was to make a good show. He said it was just a matter of time before they toppled WCW because they had the better show. He said both shows were going so hard, it came down to who would burn out the quickest.

- McMahon says the AWA put themselves out of business. He tried to buy the company from Verne Gagne, but was shot down. Vince said he kept re-investing in his product, and others wanted to hold on to their money instead. He says Bill Watts is the only person who actually invested his money back into his territory.

McMahon says he only competed with Bill Watts once and learned his lesson until Watts sold to Crockett. He said Crockett wasn't the brightest branch in the tree and decided to move into his territory after that.

- Austin asks Vince McMahon if there's any heat between Vince and Jim Ross. Vince says there's no heat on his half, but the incident in Los Angeles was really unprofessional. McMahon doesn't rule out working with Jim Ross in the future. Austin puts over Ross' creativity, and thinks its a mistake to not have him around.

McMahon said Ross wanted to leave Connecticut for Oklahoma, and worked hard and paid his dues like no other. Ross wanted to help some, but didn't want to commit 24/7 and McMahon said that you couldn't work half-assed in this job.

- McMahon says he understood the psychology of the Stone Cold/Mr. McMahon feud because he's no better than anyone else, but nobody else is better than him. He said he could relate to both sides of the feud because he felt like he truly was Stone Cold's character.

- Austin says they're counting him down to end the show, and Vince said "I happen to own the Network, so we're going for 15 more minutes."

- McMahon says his father didn't want him to be a wrestler, because he couldn't be a businessman and a wrestler. Vince said wrestling was one of the greatest thrills in his life.

- Austin talks about how he was pitched the Ringmaster gimmick, and how McMahon didn't see a superstar in him, so he had to take initiative.

- Austin asks McMahon about the table spot at St. Valentine's Day Massacre. McMahon says he was bruised and had a lot of bleeding.

- Austin talks about the double turn at WrestleMania 13, and said that when they were going over the match, he, Bret and Vince were the only three in the room going over it. Austin says he heard that it would be a Submissions match on TV, and thought it would stink because he wasn't a submission wrestler.

Hart suggested that Austin bleed, so Austin agreed and he double checked with McMahon. Austin asks how McMahon felt about it. McMahon said looking back he was probably pissed off, but it isn't about what he wants, it's about what the fans want.

- Austin asks if Vince McMahon is truly giving fans what they want, and ifWWE is listening. McMahon says he thinks the future is good, despite ratings not being what they were in the 90's.

- Austin asks how fans can send in their voice. McMahon says he listens to the crowd, to the audience, social media.

- Austin asks McMahon when he's going to retire. McMahon says he's enjoying it now more than ever, he's healthy, he's working as many hours as ever before. He says physically he isn't losing a step, and doesn't think he is mentally. He said some people think he's out of touch, but those people are just critics.

Jim Ross has signed up to do commentary on Jeff Jarrett's Global Force Wrestling presentation of New Japan's annual Tokyo Dome show on Jan 5th 2015.

http://www.puroresufan.com/njpw/page/2/

It will be interesting to see how Ross handles his commentary duties on this show. While he's widely regarded as being the best play-by-play announcer in wrestling, most of his work came under the WWE banner. People who have performed commentary for WWE in the past (e.g. Mick Foley) have complained about Vince McMahon's input while attempting to call matches. Now that he's free from restriction, he should be able to call the match as he sees fit.

(06 Dec 2014, 4:49 pm)AdamY wrote Jim Ross has signed up to do commentary on Jeff Jarrett's Global Force Wrestling presentation of New Japan's annual Tokyo Dome show on Jan 5th 2015.

http://www.puroresufan.com/njpw/page/2/

It will be interesting to see how Ross handles his commentary duties on this show. While he's widely regarded as being the best play-by-play announcer in wrestling, most of his work came under the WWE banner. People who have performed commentary for WWE in the past (e.g. Mick Foley) have complained about Vince McMahon's input while attempting to call matches. Now that he's free from restriction, he should be able to call the match as he sees fit.

Jim Ross is probably the finest play-by-play announcer in the history of pro wrestling, up there with Gordon Solie...

JR's craic on the mic is second to none, some of the things he came out with was great

Slobberknocker
He's running like a scalded dog
He is whipping him like a government mule
STUNNER, STUNNER, STONE COLD STUNNER

Did JR come up with 'stomping a mudhole and walk it dry'

Would be weird hearing JR commentate for another company...

I used to watch WCW on ITV back in the early 90s when Ross was still doing commentary for them. I used to buy WCW videos too - so I was accustomed to hearing Jim Ross' voice before his WWF debut at Wrestlemania IX in 1993. To be honest, he was just a commentator to me back then - the magazines/dirt-sheets rated him but perhaps I was a bit too naive to understand what he added to the product. Vince McMahon wasn't keen on him initially. He left the company a couple of times before his voice became synonymous with the product during the 'Attitude Era'.

But you're right, hearing his voice on another wrestling product will be intriguing to say the least. It might even lead to something more long-term. Although nobody knows what Global Wrestling Force is meant to be (or when it will start), New Japan are keen to venture into the US market. The voice of Jim Ross could certainly be useful in this endeavour.

http://espn.go.com/mma/story/_/id/119911...fight-2015

(06 Dec 2014, 9:07 pm)AdamY wrote I used to watch WCW on ITV back in the early 90s when Ross was still doing commentary for them. I used to buy WCW videos too - so I was accustomed to hearing Jim Ross' voice before his WWF debut at Wrestlemania IX in 1993. To be honest, he was just a commentator to me back then - the magazines/dirt-sheets rated him but perhaps I was a bit too naive to understand what he added to the product. Vince McMahon wasn't keen on him initially. He left the company a couple of times before his voice became synonymous with the product during the 'Attitude Era'.

But you're right, hearing his voice on another wrestling product will be intriguing to say the least. It might even lead to something more long-term. Although nobody knows what Global Wrestling Force is meant to be (or when it will start), New Japan are keen to venture into the US market. The voice of Jim Ross could certainly be useful in this endeavour.

I think if you want to pull in wrestling fans, then a name like Jim Ross is what you need, to me, JR is the voice of wrestling, and if New Japan or whoever can pull it off, fair play to them, with JR on board, they have a play-by-play who is the best at what he does ...just have to wait and see...

(07 Dec 2014, 12:13 pm)aureolin wrote http://espn.go.com/mma/story/_/id/119911...fight-2015

Yet another twist in the CM Punk saga, will be interesting to see how well he transitions from WWE to MMA, cant be any worse than that fight Dave Batista had a few years back against Vince Lucero, and obviously Punk isnt going to be anywhere near to where Brock Lesnar was, if iirc I read earlier he will be in either Welterweight or Middleweight Division.

Batista vs Lucero
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pC3MNMP_GME