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(07 Apr 2015, 6:05 pm)cumbria0902150 wrote Brand new DDA buses at that, along with a larger batch of brand new buses heading to another North East depot in Summer.

I wonder which one.............. 

New X47 branding as displayed by 22408:

Stagecoach Newcastle 22408 NK06LUR by S.Blair250, on Flickr

Sadly it would seem that this means no double deckers as had been suggested could be a possibility!

Can I take this opportunity to say; the new X47 branding is vile. That's all.

God that is horrid

(07 Apr 2015, 7:01 pm)Tommy_1581 wrote Can I take this opportunity to say; the new X47 branding is vile. That's all.

It's ***KING okay, but a bit dull.

Remove if what I've said is considered inappropriate.

In an attempt to give a positive with a negative...

Although I don't like the new branding, I do think it is an improvement on the last branding. I thought the same about the last branding compared to the original branding, too, so at least we're heading in the right direction if nothing else?

I do think the Kingston Park puns have been over-used, though. Perhaps rightly so, one could argue, as I believe the X47 offers the fastest journey time between Newcastle and Kingston Park, with the Metro taking a few minutes more (when they don't bunch up in twos and threes, that is)?

(07 Apr 2015, 7:12 pm)Dan wrote In an attempt to give a positive with a negative...

Although I don't like the new branding, I do think it is an improvement on the last branding. I thought the same about the last branding compared to the original branding, too, so at least we're heading in the right direction if nothing else?

I do think the Kingston Park puns have been over-used, though. Perhaps rightly so, one could argue, as I believe the X47 offers the fastest journey time between Newcastle and Kingston Park, with the Metro taking a few minutes more (when they don't bunch up in twos and threes, that is)?

We classing that old X47 on the side and back windows that looked like a BOGOF promotion as branding?

Definitely better than that, but to me this new branding just seems a bit dull and doesn't grab much attention to it which to me is the whole point of route branding and the whole KING plastered over the bus is a bit OTT.

Whatever peoples thoughts are regarding the branding, you can instantly identify who the operator is.
Route branding and a corporate id instantly recognisable.

Win/win.

Stagecoach have deleted the wrong smart card and have deleted my brand new 28 day ticket credit to them they are going to refund my tickets till my new smart card comes

With the Stagecoach Fleetbook due to arrive with people imminently, I can now reveal this year's North East Order:

Stockton depot are due another 17 ADL E300s - this time for services 52/58/35 (allowing the 7 64-reg examples presently used on the 52/35 to be used elsewhere) and services 59/61. At present, it is understand they will NOT be WiFi fitted.
South Shields depot are due to take 19 Euro5 ADL E200s. These will be WiFi enabled (same as 37143/4)

Stockton's 17 should therefore see the withdrawal of the remaining 12 non-DDA MANs in active service at the depot as well as releasing 5 of the DDA MANs into a reserve capacity to replace the non-DDA MANs in that role.

(08 Apr 2015, 7:34 am)Kuyoyo wrote With the Stagecoach Fleetbook due to arrive with people imminently, I can now reveal this year's North East Order:

Stockton depot are due another 17 ADL E300s - this time for services 52/58/35 (allowing the 7 64-reg examples presently used on the 52/35 to be used elsewhere) and services 59/61. At present, it is understand they will NOT be WiFi fitted.
South Shields depot are due to take 19 Euro5 ADL E200s. These will be WiFi enabled (same as 37143/4)

Stockton's 17 should therefore see the withdrawal of the remaining 12 non-DDA MANs in active service at the depot as well as releasing 5 of the DDA MANs into a reserve capacity to replace the non-DDA MANs in that role.

Ah so my friend was right about shields getting new buses

Sad to see last of the non DDA MAN's going, looks like first of the DDA ones will go to or will they replace the darts?

Sorry if this is in the wrong thread but does anybody know how much it would cost for a return to Gateshead if I was to get the X34?

(08 Apr 2015, 8:32 am)Busman69 wrote Sorry if this is in the wrong thread but does anybody know how much it would cost for a return to Gateshead if I was to get the X34?

The single is £2.70, so I would assume that it's either £5 or lower.

(08 Apr 2015, 9:27 am)Tommy_1581 wrote The single is £2.70, so I would assume that it's either £5 or lower.

X34 does not do returns you will be offered the day ticket instead at £3.80 which can be used on all stagecoach throughout Tyne and Wear

If this is anything to go by, I actually prefer the new ***KING awful livery. This however, looks like something that should be in a toilet.


Stagecoach North East NK06 LUR by delticalco, on Flickr

I honestly do believe that the Kingston Park puns are a bit OTT and I know now that some people have already got a new pun for them 

At least this livery doesn't look like a runny [emoji90] ! 

(08 Apr 2015, 9:57 am)ifm001 wrote X34 does not do returns you will be offered the day ticket instead at £3.80 which can be used on all stagecoach throughout Tyne and Wear

Cheers for correcting me, I think SC need to have the day ticket on the back of the timetable instead of just single and week tickets. 

(08 Apr 2015, 10:01 am)Tommy_1581 wrote Cheers for correcting me, I think SC need to have the day ticket on the back of the timetable instead of just single and week tickets. 

Yes but it just goes to show. A lady asked yesterday on x36 how much it was for day ticket from boldon asda to Newcastle. Was offered the red and purple buzz fare at £6.20.
Needless to say she got off and waited for next X34. Who wouldn't at that price difference. Shocking.

(08 Apr 2015, 9:58 am)Tommy_1581 wrote If this is anything to go by, I actually prefer the new ***KING awful livery. This however, looks like something that should be in a toilet.


Stagecoach North East NK06 LUR by delticalco, on Flickr

I honestly do believe that the Kingston Park puns are a bit OTT and I know now that some people have already got a new pun for them 

At least this livery doesn't look like a runny [emoji90] ! 

I'd like to see Stagecoach continue this new style of livery and puns, could you imagine what branding for a service to Killingworth, I imagine it would look like... "I'd KILL to go to KILLingworth" and instead of a man in a suit it is a siloet of a woman on the floor looking scared with a man wielding a knife about to stab her.

Sorry if that was dark reading to anyone.

Be interesting to see what happens when the 19 E200s arrive at South Shields. One option would be to replace the E200s on the local town services 3/4/7/8 and cascade them to depots with the oldest pointer darts.

(08 Apr 2015, 2:34 pm)Simmy wrote Be interesting to see what happens when the 19 E200s arrive at South Shields. One option would be to replace the E200s on the local town services 3/4/7/8 and cascade them to depots with the oldest pointer darts.

Possibly to get rid of 39701-14 & 35190-5.

(07 Apr 2015, 6:56 pm)Dan wrote New X47 branding as displayed by 22408:

Stagecoach Newcastle 22408 NK06LUR by S.Blair250, on Flickr

Sadly it would seem that this means no double deckers as had been suggested could be a possibility!

Further vehicles have now been branded - these including 22411 and 22412.

(08 Apr 2015, 2:34 pm)Simmy wrote Be interesting to see what happens when the 19 E200s arrive at South Shields. One option would be to replace the E200s on the local town services 3/4/7/8 and cascade them to depots with the oldest pointer darts.

What's the difference between these new ones and existing batch of 19 36461-36479 other than WiFi. If nothing why bother introducing them if they are not upgrading just getting g the same. Give them to another depot who needs updates. They are too small in any case.

Latest official fleet movements from the latest cards.
NEB fleet lists will be updated during the evening.

Busways
19672 NK60 DNO ADL ENVIRO 400 Walkergate to Yorkshire (on loan)
22172 T172 MVM MAN ALX300 Sold to AH Hardwick
22462 T462 BNL MAN ALX300 In service at Walkergate
22467 T467 BNL MAN ALX300 Sold to AH Hardwick
22478 T478 BNL MAN ALX300 Sold to AH Hardwick
22727 T727 OEF MAN ALX300 Sold to AH Hardwick
22731 T731 OEF MAN ALX300 Sold to AH Hardwick
34610 NK04 NPV DENNIS DART SLF Walkergate to Slatyford
34611 NK04 NPX DENNIS DART SLF Walkergate to Slatyford
34613 NK04 NPZ DENNIS DART SLF Walkergate to Slatyford
39721 NK09 EPV MAN ENVIRO 200 Slatyford to Walkergate
39722 NK09 EPU MAN ENVIRO 200 Slatyford to Walkergate
39724 NK09 EGU MAN ENVIRO 200 Slatyford to Walkergate

Transit
22486 T486 BNL MAN ALX300 Sold to AH Hardwick
22669 V669 DDC MAN ALX300 Sold to AH Hardwick

(08 Apr 2015, 4:15 pm)ifm001 wrote What's the difference between these new ones and existing batch of 19 36461-36479 other than WiFi. If nothing why bother introducing them if they are not upgrading just getting g the same. Give them to another depot who needs updates. They are too small in any case.

Well the cascades haven't yet been "confirmed", so to speak, so it's hard for anyone to give an answer to this.

These new Dennis Dart SLF 4/Alexander Enviro 200 vehicles can allow for a number of different cascades; however, the most obvious one which sprung to mind for me was the replacement of of the six Dennis Dart SLF/Alexander Pointer 2 vehicles (35190 - 35195) and fourteen MAN 14.240 LF/Alexander Enviro 200 vehicles (39701 - 39714) at South Shields, which would total 20 vehicles. These vehicles are Euro 3 and Euro 4 respectively. Bus operators naturally expect reliability to increase with the implementation of new vehicles and this provides scope for the amount of spare vehicles at a depot to be reduced, so 19 new vehicles replacing 20 existing wouldn't be too out of the ordinary. If these were to be replaced by the new Dennis Dart SLF 4/Alexander Enviro 200 vehicles, South Shields would have a depot comprising of primarily Euro 5 vehicles (19194/96/97 are Euro 4, 22050/67/70 are Euro 3, 22734 is Euro 2).

A possible (and sensible in my view) cascade for those 20 vehicles would be to Hartlepool Depot, allowing for the withdrawal of the earliest Dennis Dart SLF/Alexander Pointer 2 vehicles in Stagecoach's fleet. There is currently 16 Pointer 2 Darts allocated to Hartlepool Depot to cover a PVR of 15 on services 1, 3 and 4. There is currently 19 Enviro200s to cover a PVR of 15 on services 6/7. If South Shields' 14 were to join Hartlepool's fleet, these could be used to form the allocation of all of Hartlepool's services, with South Shields' Pointer 2 Darts forming the spare allocation.

So that'll be five years since the last new bus in Newcastle. If they don't get any next year I'll be having serious words with the MD...

(08 Apr 2015, 5:22 pm)markydh wrote So that'll be five years since the last new bus in Newcastle. If they don't get any next year I'll be having serious words with the MD...

It's not the MD you need to have the serious words with  

(08 Apr 2015, 4:33 pm)Dan wrote Well the cascades haven't yet been "confirmed", so to speak, so it's hard for anyone to give an answer to this.

These new Dennis Dart SLF 4/Alexander Enviro 200 vehicles can allow for a number of different cascades; however, the most obvious one which sprung to mind for me was the replacement of of the six Dennis Dart SLF/Alexander Pointer 2 vehicles (35190 - 35195) and fourteen MAN 14.240 LF/Alexander Enviro 200 vehicles (39701 - 39714) at South Shields, which would total 20 vehicles. These vehicles are Euro 3 and Euro 4 respectively. Bus operators naturally expect reliability to increase with the implementation of new vehicles and this provides scope for the amount of spare vehicles at a depot to be reduced, so 19 new vehicles replacing 20 existing wouldn't be too out of the ordinary. If these were to be replaced by the new Dennis Dart SLF 4/Alexander Enviro 200 vehicles, South Shields would have a depot comprising of primarily Euro 5 vehicles (19194/96/97 are Euro 4, 22050/67/70 are Euro 3, 22734 is Euro 2).

A possible (and sensible in my view) cascade for those 20 vehicles would be to Hartlepool Depot, allowing for the withdrawal of the earliest Dennis Dart SLF/Alexander Pointer 2 vehicles in Stagecoach's fleet. There is currently 16 Pointer 2 Darts allocated to Hartlepool Depot to cover a PVR of 15 on services 1, 3 and 4. There is currently 19 Enviro200s to cover a PVR of 15 on services 6/7. If South Shields' 14 were to join Hartlepool's fleet, these could be used to form the allocation of all of Hartlepool's services, with South Shields' Pointer 2 Darts forming the spare allocation.

But again why not just send the 19 new vehicles direct to Hartlepool.  Does the Euro engine number really mean that much to South Shields depot in the long run.

(08 Apr 2015, 5:44 pm)ifm001 wrote But again why not just send the 19 new vehicles direct to Hartlepool.  Does the Euro engine number really mean that much to South Shields depot in the long run.

Perhaps the services at South Shields which will receive these Enviro200s are more profitable than those at Hartlepool?

Must be noted that the Enviro200s South Shields will receive are manufactured by ADL, potentially replacing MAN Enviro200s. The examples Hartlepool have at present are manufactured by MAN. Hartlepool having practically an entire fleet of MAN Enviro200s assists with depot standardisation and will allow greater leniency with allocations.

(08 Apr 2015, 5:52 pm)Dan wrote Perhaps the services at South Shields which will receive these Enviro200s are more profitable than those at Hartlepool?

Must be noted that the Enviro200s South Shields will receive are manufactured by ADL, potentially replacing MAN Enviro200s. The examples Hartlepool have at present are manufactured by MAN. Hartlepool having practically an entire fleet of MAN Enviro200s assists with depot standardisation and will allow greater leniency with allocations.

 don't know about profitable, the 3 and 4 (if they are getting them) are my local service, they interwork with the 7 and 8, which interestingly all 4 services main destinations are areas which are not served by Go North East, mainly Biddick Hall and Marsden. So the passengers have no option but to use these services to get to and from the Town Centre.  Whatever happened to completion, where are all the competitors?