North East Buses

(14 Apr 2022, 7:09 pm)Michael wrote [ -> ]How many are left to repaint now?

Lots
https://bustimes.org/operators/stagecoac...t/vehicles

(14 Apr 2022, 8:19 pm)stagecoachbusdepot wrote [ -> ]Lots
https://bustimes.org/operators/stagecoac...t/vehicles

Oops, meant gas bus wise.

Don't trust Bustimes, as anyome can edit it

(14 Apr 2022, 8:36 pm)Michael wrote [ -> ]Oops, meant gas bus wise.

Don't trust Bustimes, as anyome can edit it

23 remaining in Gas/Beachball. Accident victim 28013 will be repainted after repair.

(14 Apr 2022, 9:00 pm)54APhotography wrote [ -> ]23 remaining in Gas/Beachball. Accident victim 28013 will be repainted after repair.

Thank you.. still alot thought it was much less.

Theres also 24107 which is the odd one out on the 317's,its the only one left in the old Stagecoach livery for that service

(15 Apr 2022, 4:11 pm)V514DFT wrote [ -> ]Theres also 24107 which is the odd one out on the 317's,its the only one left in the old Stagecoach livery for that service

Speaking of the 317...
I was on it yesterday and the current Enviro 300 allocation imo is not suitable. As in length because that route (in Percy Main and Howdon) the streets, parked cars and tight turns ended in quite a few close calls. With cars having to reverse to let the bus past which was blocking the crossroads etc.. The E300 has a lot of overhang at the back and the driver looked nervous and the bus' big 'backend' definitely seemed a challenge even the passengers were commenting.

I have seen how close the bus gets to cars,but i gurss for now,those buses will have to do

(15 Apr 2022, 6:14 pm)V514DFT wrote [ -> ]I have seen how close the bus gets to cars,but i gurss for now,those buses will have to do

Still not really sure why they were selected over the Enviro200s for that route - sure some of them are Euro6 or could be upgraded (which they will need to be anyway if remaining in Newcastle on 32/32A/35 etc)

(15 Apr 2022, 6:25 pm)stagecoachbusdepot wrote [ -> ]Still not really sure why they were selected over the Enviro200s for that route - sure some of them are Euro6 or could be upgraded (which they will need to be anyway if remaining in Newcastle on 32/32A/35 etc)

It's only Euro 5 the 317 like.

(15 Apr 2022, 7:28 pm)Storx wrote [ -> ]It's only Euro 5 the 317 like.

The contract was Euro 5, but Stagecoach bid based on providing a Euro 6 bus.

Presumably the shorter Euro 6 E200s are needed for the 32 given the size restrictions on this route, hence resulting in the 317 being allocated these longer E300s.


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Went on the 19 and E1 open tops today. You would think the wheatsheaf would smarter them up during the winter. One was just a boring plain white and the coloured one still had north Tyneside landmarks on.
I also noticed a sign for stagecoach Manchester covering the cctv operation on the staircase!!!

(15 Apr 2022, 7:30 pm)Dan wrote [ -> ]The contract was Euro 5, but Stagecoach bid based on providing a Euro 6 bus.

Presumably the shorter Euro 6 E200s are needed for the 32 given the size restrictions on this route, hence resulting in the 317 being allocated these longer E300s.


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They've got about 19 E200s so more than enough to cover 32 & 317.  Theoretically allocated to 6 & 7 but E300s often sub on those routes (which won't need Euro 6 so could have anything - with the E300s back on the 10/11/Expresses). There is bound to be some method to the madness though (and hopefully not just a ridiculously over inflated seating requirement on the contract)

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(15 Apr 2022, 8:39 pm)Acky81 wrote [ -> ]Went on the 19 and E1 open tops today. You would think the wheatsheaf would smarter them up during the winter. One was just a boring plain white and the coloured one still had north Tyneside landmarks on.
I also noticed a sign for stagecoach Manchester covering the cctv operation on the staircase!!!

They've been in a shocking state internally since they arrived to replace the Olympians on CSS, which were in a far better condition! What were passenger numbers like on the runs you sampled?

The 19 was packed full route and the E1 was half full

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I still say stagecoach should introduce a south side route
Plus refresh the paintwork

(15 Apr 2022, 4:47 pm)logidoodah wrote [ -> ]Speaking of the 317...
I was on it yesterday and the current Enviro 300 allocation imo is not suitable. As in length because that route (in Percy Main and Howdon) the streets, parked cars and tight turns ended in quite a few close calls. With cars having to reverse to let the bus past which was blocking the crossroads etc.. The E300 has a lot of overhang at the back and the driver looked nervous and the bus' big 'backend' definitely seemed a challenge even the passengers were commenting.

Saw an E400 on the 317 Tuesday. Not sure how that managed in the area you mention.

(15 Apr 2022, 11:31 pm)Andreos1 wrote [ -> ]Saw an E400 on the 317 Tuesday. Not sure how that managed in the area you mention.

Double Deckers actually cope better because they are shorter in length than a full size single decker but the 317 should really be using midi buses

Go North East managed for years using B10BLEs on the same route.

Anyone any idea why 12068 and 19442 have lost their front end logos?  Looks very odd with just plain white panel.

Anyone know if there’s any plans to repaint any of Stagecoach NE’s Enviro 400MMCs into the Jubilee livery as I’ve seen photos on Flickr of other areas in that livery?


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Given the track record for SNE, I ain't holding my breath for a jubilee bus from Stagecoach around here. Heck I'm suprised the seasiders haven't been repainted into standard livery, though I guess with their age they are on borrowed time.

(20 Apr 2022, 6:30 pm)Rapidsnap wrote [ -> ]Given the track record for SNE, I ain't holding my breath for a jubilee bus from Stagecoach around here. Heck I'm suprised the seasiders haven't been repainted into standard livery, though I guess with their age they are on borrowed time.

Plenty of time for this to be done as a few other depots elsewhere in the country seem to have them as noted below. 

10467 (SN65 OAZ) - Stagecoach Manchester
10626 (SN16 OXH) - Stagecoach Manchester
10699 (SN66 VVK) - Stagecoach South
10945 (SN18 KNJ) - Stagecoach South
11125 (PHE 692/SK68 LUT) - Stagecoach Yorkshire
15304 (YN67 YKX) - Stagecoach Merseyside & South Lancashire

Even for the golden jubilee, Stagecoach refused to paint a bus into the Stagecoach golden jubilee livery (which is effectively similar to the interconnect livery in Lincolnshire).

And even if there is an special repaint it's only once in a blue moon or for contractual reasons (Quaylink or Teesside Flex comes to mind).

Honestly I bet the management had a fit when they told the Hybrids were coming in a green version of the standard livery, and probably had another and even bigger fit when told their 40 gas buses will be in a completely non-standard special livery promoting that they are ran on gas.

In the North East this is a list of non-standard local service bus liveries (not route branding or adverts) done by Stagecoach since 2003....
Metrocentre Shuttle (Blue Version) - https://flic.kr/p/2m1CLbo
Metrocentre Shuttle (Rainbow front) - https://flic.kr/p/2m1A1b2
X34 Pink Charity - https://flic.kr/p/2mZZr3d
X34 Light Blue - https://flic.kr/p/cmeWwQ (Photo by John Carter as none of mine are on Flickr yet)
X77/X78 Black - https://flic.kr/p/2n1h2hN
South Shields Corpy - https://flic.kr/p/2k5grVD
Sunderland Corpy - https://flic.kr/p/2mZw6sb
Gas Bus Livery - https://flic.kr/p/25d816x
Hybrid Swoops - https://flic.kr/p/bvaNXx
Seasider - https://flic.kr/p/2iqqRXG
City Sightseeing (Franchise) - https://flic.kr/p/2iYHDUL (yes the service was running during a snowy December)
Quaylink (Contract) - https://flic.kr/p/21BPnDL
AD122 (Contract) - https://flic.kr/p/GWaDFu
Flex (Contract) - https://flic.kr/p/2jeGRJq
U-Call (Contract) - https://flic.kr/p/213QNJF
Ikea (Contract / Advert) - https://flic.kr/p/jak1mG
White - https://flic.kr/p/2iqtxg5
Mosaic (Livery Launch Vehicle) - https://flic.kr/p/2itfaMJ

To sum it up, I think they would only normally have non-standard liveries (Hybrid, Gas, Mosaic) if they are forced to have them because of Head Office. It just feels to me that they don't really go out of the way to do a non-standard livery.

Forgot to Mention Magic Bus, although restricted to schools, the Stockton based one escaped into normal service a few times in debranded Magic Bus livery.

https://flic.kr/p/iA8pCd

(20 Apr 2022, 9:56 pm)Malarkey wrote [ -> ]Plenty of time for this to be done as a few other depots elsewhere in the country seem to have them as noted below. 

10467 (SN65 OAZ) - Stagecoach Manchester
10626 (SN16 OXH) - Stagecoach Manchester
10699 (SN66 VVK) - Stagecoach South
10945 (SN18 KNJ) - Stagecoach South
11125 (PHE 692/SK68 LUT) - Stagecoach Yorkshire
15304 (YN67 YKX) - Stagecoach Merseyside & South Lancashire

Also 10565 Liverpool, 10657 Barnsley, 10867 Peterborough, 15270 Thanet, 15660 Sheffield, 19597 Bedford and 27689 South Wales (Porth).

(15 Apr 2022, 8:39 pm)Acky81 wrote [ -> ]Went on the 19 and E1 open tops today. You would think the wheatsheaf would smarter them up during the winter. One was just a boring plain white and the coloured one still had north Tyneside landmarks on.
I also noticed a sign for stagecoach Manchester covering the cctv operation on the staircase!!!

17643 may be getting tidied up:

https://flic.kr/p/2neXftR

(19 Apr 2022, 10:20 pm)stagecoachbusdepot wrote [ -> ]Anyone any idea why 12068 and 19442 have lost their front end logos?  Looks very odd with just plain white panel.

27510 is in new colours at Stockton

22444 returned to Slatyford yesterday and was on the pits. Today it sat at the back of the depot. No ticket machine however on it so could be waiting for one

https://flic.kr/p/2ngRkUj

(27 Apr 2022, 12:10 am)Aaron21 wrote [ -> ]22444 returned to Slatyford yesterday and was on the pits. Today it sat at the back of the depot. No ticket machine however on it so could be waiting for one

https://flic.kr/p/2ngRkUj

Stagecoach 22444 / YN07 KSJ by kieron mathews, on Flickr

Back in service today

12085 now at paintshop at Sunderland went yesterday

(28 Apr 2022, 6:46 pm)TEN 6083 wrote [ -> ]Stagecoach 22444 / YN07 KSJ by kieron mathews, on Flickr

Back in service today

I don't know about you but I prefer the local livery on this vehicle than most others

12064 and 12077 must have recently come back from the paintshop as they are now in new colours