(30 Jun 2022, 4:49 pm)Unber43 wrote [ -> ]I think the 65 extending to Sunderland demand is there especially from Hetton etc cos the 35 does take ages. You could extend the 65 upto Easington Lane tbh or even as far as South Hetton hourly
And presumably terminate there because that's one hell of a diversion.
(30 Jun 2022, 4:58 pm)F114TML wrote [ -> ]And presumably terminate there because that's one hell of a diversion.
Yeah ive just realised how big of a diversion to South Hetton that would be.
(30 Jun 2022, 4:49 pm)Unber43 wrote [ -> ]I think the 65 extending to Sunderland demand is there especially from Hetton etc cos the 35 does take ages. You could extend the 65 upto Easington Lane tbh or even as far as South Hetton hourly
They would make more money
forcing encouraging people on to the X1 and 20 or 65 and 60 than extending the 65 and its PVR (not a good idea when they're struggling for drivers either).
It did go to Sunderland in a previous guise, but was cut.
What's good for passengers isn't always good for the operator.
(30 Jun 2022, 5:07 pm)Andreos1 wrote [ -> ]They would make more money forcing encouraging people on to the X1 and 20 or 65 and 60 than extending the 65 and its PVR (not a good idea when they're struggling for drivers either).
It did go to Sunderland in a previous guise, but was cut.
What's good for passengers isn't always good for the operator.
I think that was before it was called the 65 orginally, so looking at maybe 2005/6
Brutal cancelled list tomorrow. A lot of service have journeys cancelled
(30 Jun 2022, 5:44 pm)Aaron21 wrote [ -> ]Brutal cancelled list tomorrow. A lot of service have journeys cancelled
Deptford has been badly hit, there.
(30 Jun 2022, 5:16 pm)Unber43 wrote [ -> ]I think that was before it was called the 65 orginally, so looking at maybe 2005/6
It was in 1997 (from the Bygone area):
![[Image: GWB154August17th1997.jpg]](https://northeastbuses.co.uk/bygone/assets/uploads/GWB154August17th1997.jpg)
The extension to Dryburn Hospital was cut in November 1997. Sunderland extension was cut before 2002 (which is when they started putting timetables online).
(30 Jun 2022, 6:31 pm)F114TML wrote [ -> ]It was in 1997 (from the Bygone area):
The extension to Dryburn Hospital was cut in November 1997. Sunderland extension was cut before 2002 (which is when they started putting timetables online).
Well before then too. I remember it running in the 80s.
Pretty sure there was a shortlived 254 variant that took a slightly different route.
(30 Jun 2022, 5:07 pm)Andreos1 wrote [ -> ]They would make more money forcing encouraging people on to the X1 and 20 or 65 and 60 than extending the 65 and its PVR (not a good idea when they're struggling for drivers either).
It did go to Sunderland in a previous guise, but was cut.
What's good for passengers isn't always good for the operator.
I'm surprised they haven't attempted to merge the 61 and 65 together somehow yet now that the 61 doesn't work with the 60 anymore and are both half hourly. I don't really want it to happen but if they ran it express like the X6 from Seaham to Sunderland it would only add 5 mins or so and give 3 buses an hour express between the two and sort out the changeover problem.
(30 Jun 2022, 6:59 pm)Andreos1 wrote [ -> ]Well before then too. I remember it running in the 80s.
Pretty sure there was a shortlived 254 variant that took a slightly different route.
Was certainly a 254 operating to Sunderland in 1994 though appears to have had two different route variants sharing the number, in the way that operators like to do to confuse customers. It operated alongside the 154 which at that time didn't extend to Sunderland. A 254 certainly existed from 1994 up to 1998 and possibly beyond.
https://ibb.co/bL929zn
(30 Jun 2022, 10:12 pm)stagecoachbusdepot wrote [ -> ]Was certainly a 254 operating to Sunderland in 1994 though appears to have had two different route variants sharing the number, in the way that operators like to do to confuse customers. It operated alongside the 154 which at that time didn't extend to Sunderland. A 254 certainly existed from 1994 up to 1998 and possibly beyond.
https://ibb.co/bL929zn
Good old 254, when northern was on strike 1991?, (bleanches coaches/travel?) took on the 154, and when northern came back on there stayed on the 154 and northern wasn’t happy and decided to put on the 254 right in front of there bus service using any bus available until there ceased there bus services, service 254 came back on later down the lane using wear buses metroriders
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(01 Jul 2022, 5:59 am)cbma06 wrote [ -> ]Good old 254, when northern was on strike 1991?, (bleanches coaches/travel?) took on the 154, and when northern came back on there stayed on the 154 and northern wasn’t happy and decided to put on the 254 right in front of there bus service using any bus available until there ceased there bus services, service 254 came back on later down the lane using wear buses metroriders
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The 254 would probably work today if it followed the 208 route from Easington Lane or even via South Hetton & Haswell Plough
(01 Jul 2022, 9:01 am)ASX_Terranova wrote [ -> ]The 254 would probably work today if it followed the 208 route from Easington Lane or even via South Hetton & Haswell Plough
Can’t see GNE putting the 254 back on as it served its purposed, first time round was in competition with bleanches coaches , and the second time round (I maybe wrong with this) was in competition with Michael franks coaches 153 service with the 254 running right in front of 153.
Those days are well gone now, unless some enthusiasts with a pot less money pot want to get together and run those services , and see for themselves how to run a bus service and make a profit, it’s all to easy making suggestions but there more behind the scenes, maybe Dan can start a training programme [emoji3166] at GNE for enthusiasts so there can see what goes on and show why certain/a lot of suggestions won’t work in real life, there’s a bit of overtime for ya [emoji590] Dan [emoji590]
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(01 Jul 2022, 1:44 pm)cbma06 wrote [ -> ]Can’t see GNE putting the 254 back on as it served its purposed, first time round was in competition with bleanches coaches , and the second time round (I maybe wrong with this) was in competition with Michael franks coaches 153 service with the 254 running right in front of 153.
Those days are well gone now, unless some enthusiasts with a pot less money pot want to get together and run those services , and see for themselves how to run a bus service and make a profit, it’s all to easy making suggestions but there more behind the scenes, maybe Dan can start a training programme [emoji3166] at GNE for enthusiasts so there can see what goes on and show why certain/a lot of suggestions won’t work in real life, there’s a bit of overtime for ya [emoji590] Dan [emoji590]
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To be fair, there could also be a course on how not to run a bus service and why the professionals can't get it right either!
(01 Jul 2022, 1:50 pm)Andreos1 wrote [ -> ]To be fair, there could also be a course on how not to run a bus service and why the professionals can't get it right either!
Yea a GNE course for Branded buses [emoji848]with first topic how to brand a bus service and then use the branded buses on other bus services and confuse the public passenger and do away with there own corporate identity when branded buses are more than (80%?) of there fleet
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(01 Jul 2022, 1:50 pm)Andreos1 wrote [ -> ]To be fair, there could also be a course on how not to run a bus service and why the professionals can't get it right either!
Includes a free trip to local authority HQs with begging bowls in hand!
Quite a few of last buses are cancelled tomorrow including
28B/2/2A/35 (including the last two to Heworth to Sunderland & Low Moorlsey) /5 /9/60.
Some people will have a long wait in Stanley bus station, which isn't the best on a evening
The amount of gaps between timings are big on some.
Glad I don't use GNE anymore... although lately Stagecoach Sunderland's services have been getting cancelled lately.
Feel sorry for anyone tomorrow. Especially on the 60
From Parkside: 09:07, 09:21, 10:22, 10:34, 10:46, 11:22, 11:58, 12:10, 12:46, 13:10, 14:10, 15:10, 15:58, 16:34, 17:22, 18:04, 18:30, 18:45, 19:29, 20:59, 21:29
From Sunderland: 08:30, 08:43, 09:43, 09:55, 10:07, 10:43, 11:19, 11:31, 12:07, 12:31, 13:31, 14:31, 15:19, 15:55, 17:22, 17:52, 16:43, 18:07, 18:54, 20:24, 20:54
(01 Jul 2022, 6:55 pm)Aaron21 wrote [ -> ]Feel sorry for anyone tomorrow. Especially on the 60
From Parkside: 09:07, 09:21, | 10:22, 10:34, 10:46, 11:22, 11:58, 12:10, 12:46, 13:10, 14:10, 15:10, 15:58, 16:34, 17:22, 18:04, 18:30, 18:45, 19:29, 20:59, 21:29
From Sunderland: 08:30, 08:43, | 09:43, 09:55, 10:07, 10:43, 11:19, 11:31, 12:07, 12:31, 13:31, 14:31, 15:19, 15:55, 17:22, 17:52, 16:43, 18:07, 18:54, 20:24, 20:54
All one after each other. With one being 3 in a row. So there won't be in 60 in nearly 48 mins, I expect the next non-cancelled bus would be a solo, i mean #betterthanever
The worst thing is there will be probs 2 solo's on all day aswell. Like today.
I do wonder why Deptford has been really bad lately
They should be surely working rotas so early mornings and evenings are covered. They've had enough practice with disruptions!
(01 Jul 2022, 6:58 pm)Unber43 wrote [ -> ]All one after each other. With one being 3 in a row. So there won't be in 60 in nearly 48 mins, I expect the next non-cancelled bus would be a solo, i mean #betterthanever
The worst thing is there will be probs 2 solo's on all day aswell. Like today.
I do wonder why Deptford has been really bad lately
Probably all the drivers being taken off regular duties for route learning ready for the upcoming reshuffle.
Sunday 3rd July
2 X21's in a row Cancelled from Bishop Auckland - 14:00 | 15:00
2 8's in a row Cancelled from Sunderland - 18:00 | 18:57
2 16/16A in a row Cancelled from Durham - 18:13 | 18:43
3 28B's in a row Cancelled from Newcastle/Kimblesworth - 18:10 | 19:10 | 20:10
2 35A's in a row Cancelled from Heworth - 14:33 | 14:53
3 55's in a row Cancelled from Sunderland/Peterlee (the last 3) - 16:05 | 17:05 | 18:05
2 78's in a row Cancelled from Sunderland - 15:00 | 16:00
2 93's in a row Cancelled from Gateshead - 07:08 | 08:08
(02 Jul 2022, 5:24 pm)Unber43 wrote [ -> ]Sunday 3rd July
2 X21's in a row Cancelled from Bishop Auckland - 14:00 | 15:00
2 8's in a row Cancelled from Sunderland - 18:00 | 18:57
2 16/16A in a row Cancelled from Durham - 18:13 | 18:43
3 28B's in a row Cancelled from Newcastle/Kimblesworth - 18:10 | 19:10 | 20:10
2 35A's in a row Cancelled from Heworth - 14:33 | 14:53
3 55's in a row Cancelled from Sunderland/Peterlee (the last 3) - 16:05 | 17:05 | 18:05
2 78's in a row Cancelled from Sunderland - 15:00 | 16:00
2 93's in a row Cancelled from Gateshead - 07:08 | 08:08
so tomorrow im either going to go homw sober 17.10 bus or extremely drunk 20.10 bus. At least I can wave at the dozens of 21's going past carrying fresh air!!
(02 Jul 2022, 5:29 pm)Rob44 wrote [ -> ]so tomorrow im either going to go homw sober 17.10 bus or extremely drunk 20.10 bus. At least I can wave at the dozens of 21's going past carrying fresh air!!
I must have died today as I was surrounded by Angels earlier, didn't think Heaven would look like Chester-le-Street Front Street mind...
(02 Jul 2022, 5:29 pm)Rob44 wrote [ -> ]so tomorrow im either going to go homw sober 17.10 bus or extremely drunk 20.10 bus. At least I can wave at the dozens of 21's going past carrying fresh air!!
You'll not be on the 20.10, as that one is cancelled too!
And they wonder why services like the 55 aren't busy enough. Last 3 buses cancelled is a damn disgrace.
You don't need to end up stranded very often to start looking at alternative ways of getting around .....
