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(28 Mar 2025, 8:56 am)PH - BQA wrote [ -> ]If nobody knows yet, how do you know that it will go back ‘when it’s ready unless plans change’? Are you an oracle?
If it’s obvious, have you got confirmation of these mysterious Pulsars from the NW for the summer increase? They’ve already got the MMCs back, and retained all other deckers over the winter, so they are covered for the summer increase on paper.
If you read the comment that everyone is putting instead of pinning onto mine I mentioned the NW pulsars because they're coming to replace the temsas nothing to do with summer services
Redcar are well enough capable of running the summer services right now. All their Deckers have been active in the last week with some even adventuring on 62's and 95's because the MMC's are all on the X93. The extra 3 X94 boards will just fine along with the Whitby Park & Ride. Lets be honest with it also. We all know Redcar tend to throw a capable Pulsar on the X94 at times and that will no doubt happen again this summer. Everyones acting like it's the end of the world is near xD
(28 Mar 2025, 4:38 pm)Mike_98 wrote [ -> ]Redcar are well enough capable of running the summer services right now. All their Deckers have been active in the last week with some even adventuring on 62's and 95's because the MMC's are all on the X93. The extra 3 X94 boards will just fine along with the Whitby Park & Ride. Lets be honest with it also. We all know Redcar tend to throw a capable Pulsar on the X94 at times and that will no doubt happen again this summer. Everyones acting like it's the end of the world is near
Summer holidays there a pulsars on the p&r and don't forget the extras x4s whitby to Redcar
(27 Mar 2025, 10:02 pm)Mark66t wrote [ -> ]What's replacing 4700 12 20 22 26 then summer services kicks in next month
(28 Mar 2025, 3:05 pm)Mark66t wrote [ -> ]The North West pulsars are replacement for the temsas nothing to do with summer services
You asked what was replacing those Temsas given the summer service kicks in next month, my reply was stating that those Temsas have already been replaced and Redcar have enough vehicles already to cover the summer PVR increase.
(28 Mar 2025, 4:10 pm)busesofthenortheast wrote [ -> ]If you read the comment that everyone is putting instead of pinning onto mine I mentioned the NW pulsars because they're coming to replace the temsas nothing to do with summer services
You replied to a post which explicitly mentioned summer services...
(28 Mar 2025, 11:05 am)PH - BQA wrote [ -> ]It’s (1534) listed as being at Redcar for the summer PVR increase.
The Ashington Solo is continuing to cover for VORs, they have had several off with engines and 7545 is off currently with significant accident damage.
Ultimately if they’re all working, they’ll likely stay in the fleet until they suffer a major failure, run out of test, or the VOR level reduces to the point they are surplus.
Aye that's fair, guess it'll be gone in May anyway since that's when I've heard the Evora's are due so makes sense having it there so they can get rid of it.
(25 Mar 2025, 9:40 pm)Stuartphin1639 wrote [ -> ]Wonder when that will happen as Darlington currently have 1412 on loan from Durham
7516 is rumoured to be coming to Darlington
(30 Mar 2025, 10:10 am)ross13 wrote [ -> ]7516 is rumoured to be coming to Darlington
The latest allocation sheet shows this is true, 7516 is replacing 7517, which is now in disposal.
1409 going to Stockton to allow 1450 to be withdrawn from service.
1534 to go into Redcar fleet, officially. Service 81 reverts to Minibus operation in the allocation sheet also. Service 95 showing as a single decker.
(30 Mar 2025, 1:32 pm)Superman wrote [ -> ]The latest allocation sheet shows this is true, 7516 is replacing 7517, which is now in disposal.
1409 going to Stockton to allow 1450 to be withdrawn from service.
1534 to go into Redcar fleet, officially. Service 81 reverts to Minibus operation in the allocation sheet also. Service 95 showing as a single decker.
Anything from redcar being withdrawn or still same fleet till the pulsar and envora arrive.
(30 Mar 2025, 1:32 pm)Superman wrote [ -> ]The latest allocation sheet shows this is true, 7516 is replacing 7517, which is now in disposal.
1409 going to Stockton to allow 1450 to be withdrawn from service.
1534 to go into Redcar fleet, officially. Service 81 reverts to Minibus operation in the allocation sheet also. Service 95 showing as a single decker.
7517 withdrawn due to chassis problems
Redcar waiting for at least 5 replacement Stockton just has to demand and get as per usual
(31 Mar 2025, 6:56 am)Mark66t wrote [ -> ]Redcar waiting for at least 5 replacement Stockton just has to demand and get as per usual
Redcar also has numerous spare vehicles currently because of the reduction in the X93/X94 timetable.
How many buses does it want?
(31 Mar 2025, 4:00 pm)Storx wrote [ -> ]Redcar also has numerous spare vehicles currently because of the reduction in the X93/X94 timetable.
How many buses does it want?
4700 12 15 20 22 26 no replacements wouldn't class that as loads of spares the temsas replacements should be prior before Anymore get withdrawn
(31 Mar 2025, 4:00 pm)Storx wrote [ -> ]Redcar also has numerous spare vehicles currently because of the reduction in the X93/X94 timetable.
How many buses does it want?
Next week is the start of summer services
(31 Mar 2025, 4:28 pm)Mark66t wrote [ -> ]4700 12 15 20 22 26 no replacements wouldn't class that as loads of spares the temsas replacements should be prior before Anymore get withdrawn
Next week is the start of summer services
Don't think 1397/8/9 and 3052/3 pushed anything out did they? I'd assume they're the replacements for the Temsa's that have gone. Don't disagree about sending anything else out though, to be fair.
To be fair though the fleets at both Redcar and Stockton are appalling, they've literally got 4 buses between them which are newer than 10 year old and the vast majority of it is closer to 15 year old than 10 year old aswell.
The Evora's as nice as they'll be won't change much either and now with the electric upgrade at Redcar being cancelled it's not looking good for either in the short term either.
(31 Mar 2025, 4:28 pm)Mark66t wrote [ -> ]4700 12 15 20 22 26 no replacements wouldn't class that as loads of spares the temsas replacements should be prior before Anymore get withdrawn
Next week is the start of summer services
You've already said, and it's been said numerous times that Redcar will be more than fine on paper for it.
4700/12/15/20/22/26 were not withdrawn without replacements.
Movement this weekend
1419 Stockton to Durham due to Durham gaining a x12 board back
1534 back to Redcar
1409 moves to boathouse lane
(05 Apr 2025, 8:32 am)Mark66t wrote [ -> ]Movement this weekend
1419 Stockton to Durham due to Durham gaining a x12 board back
1534 back to Redcar
1409 moves to boathouse lane
7516 due to move to Darlington from Durham
(05 Apr 2025, 1:21 pm)ross13 wrote [ -> ]7516 due to move to Darlington from Durham
Aright I didn't know about that
7516 has landed at Darlington, Driver from the depot put a photo of it on a Facebook group in Darlington Depot
1409 should transfer out tomorrow
So arrvia Yorkshire gave withdrawn 3050 and 51 from service with transfer to another regions are these destine for redcar ?
Must say, have to give massive respect to Arriva today for using the opportunity to try and win customers back from the train, since it's not running this weekend, by being riddled with cancellations.
It's almost like they want people using the train and it's at both depots aswell but Ashington and the X22, in particular, has been really bad today.
(19 Apr 2025, 6:33 pm)Storx wrote [ -> ]Must say, have to give massive respect to Arriva today for using the opportunity to try and win customers back from the train, since it's not running this weekend, by being riddled with cancellations.
It's almost like they want people using the train and it's at both depots aswell but Ashington and the X22, in particular, has been really bad today.
Looks to me that 1 shift was missing on the X22 given the timings, with 4 buses out for most of the day (out of 5).
Only 1 single trip on the X21 looked to be dropped too.
All that said, I’m not sure why they’d be winning people back from the train? The train has been going 4 months now, anyone who was going to switch will have done so, and anyone who has switched isn’t going to go back to the bus because of engineering works on a BH weekend?
(19 Apr 2025, 7:38 pm)PH - BQA wrote [ -> ]Looks to me that 1 shift was missing on the X22 given the timings, with 4 buses out for most of the day (out of 5).
Only 1 single trip on the X21 looked to be dropped too.
All that said, I’m not sure why they’d be winning people back from the train? The train has been going 4 months now, anyone who was going to switch will have done so, and anyone who has switched isn’t going to go back to the bus because of engineering works on a BH weekend?
Aye, it was Blyth where the other missing boards were at, looked like there was one missing board from the X7/X8/X10/X11 for most of the day and two missing boards on the 306/308 but obviously they're miles away from the train.
Easily though, could be many people who switched to the train where it's not really the most convenient route but because of the reliability issues found it worthwhile because of having to leave earlier to counteract the fact the bus might not turn up. Using it once or twice this weekend could maybe make a few think it's not that bad, I'll give it a shot again. Cancellations is just going to confirm their opinion and they'll be straight back onto the train. It's noticeable how much busier the X7 is the past 2 days, it's had very poor loadings ever since the station opened.
Arriva were running the Northumberland Line rail replacement on Good Friday, so arguably they won everyone back on the day.
I'm sure the value of the contract to run that was enough to cover any losses from the network.
(20 Apr 2025, 11:01 am)Superman wrote [ -> ]Arriva were running the Northumberland Line rail replacement on Good Friday, so arguably they won everyone back on the day.
I'm sure the value of the contract to run that was enough to cover any losses from the network.
Sounds like a mix of the rail replacement and illness caused the issue yes from what I overheard the driver saying on the bus i was on yesterday when somebody was complaining.
Interestingly, from what I've heard, Arriva seem happy with how things are looking with regards to the train. It might have changed travel patterns, but the customers are still there apparently.
(20 Apr 2025, 2:43 pm)Shrek wrote [ -> ]Sounds like a mix of the rail replacement and illness caused the issue yes from what I overheard the driver saying on the bus i was on yesterday when somebody was complaining.
Interestingly, from what I've heard, Arriva seem happy with how things are looking with regards to the train. It might have changed travel patterns, but the customers are still there apparently.
Hopefully it’s people new to public transport which will go some way to reduce traffic congestion.
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