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cbma06



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12 Jul 2021, 6:52 pm #741
(12 Jul 2021, 5:46 pm)V514DFT Giving Stagecoach's extention to 10/11 (South Shields), anyone have any suggestions


Is the 10/11 extension to North Shields from Jarrow be a secured service and not commercially?


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cbma06
12 Jul 2021, 6:52 pm #741

(12 Jul 2021, 5:46 pm)V514DFT Giving Stagecoach's extention to 10/11 (South Shields), anyone have any suggestions


Is the 10/11 extension to North Shields from Jarrow be a secured service and not commercially?


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13 Jul 2021, 6:54 pm #742
(12 Jul 2021, 6:52 pm)cbma06 Is the 10/11 extension to North Shields from Jarrow be a secured service and not commercially?


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The section of route from Low Simonside to Jarrow is secured by Nexus so I'd say the extension is secured in addition
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13 Jul 2021, 6:54 pm #742

(12 Jul 2021, 6:52 pm)cbma06 Is the 10/11 extension to North Shields from Jarrow be a secured service and not commercially?


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The section of route from Low Simonside to Jarrow is secured by Nexus so I'd say the extension is secured in addition

GNE6312



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13 Jul 2021, 9:15 pm #743
(12 Jul 2021, 6:52 pm)cbma06 Is the 10/11 extension to North Shields from Jarrow be a secured service and not commercially?


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Could it not be replacing the 319, that's been cancelled on VOSA.
GNE6312
13 Jul 2021, 9:15 pm #743

(12 Jul 2021, 6:52 pm)cbma06 Is the 10/11 extension to North Shields from Jarrow be a secured service and not commercially?


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Could it not be replacing the 319, that's been cancelled on VOSA.

peter



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13 Jul 2021, 9:31 pm #744
(13 Jul 2021, 9:15 pm)GNE6312 Could it not be replacing the 319, that's been cancelled on VOSA.

Yes, it's a replacement for the 319 as discussed in the upcoming service changes thread
peter
13 Jul 2021, 9:31 pm #744

(13 Jul 2021, 9:15 pm)GNE6312 Could it not be replacing the 319, that's been cancelled on VOSA.

Yes, it's a replacement for the 319 as discussed in the upcoming service changes thread

14 Jul 2021, 10:14 am #745
Stagecoach to take over X84/X85 from GNE and introduce new X83 service between Heddon-on-the-Wall and Metrocentre, at an hourly frequency, giving H-o-t-W, Throckley, Newburn a link to the Metrocentre without having to change buses. 

Map - in regards to Newburn Bridge Road turn from Newburn Rd if it is too tight of a turn or cars blocking turn then buses can just use the roundabout 30 seconds up the road (both directions if needed), as I'm not sure if a normal sized single decker could make either of those turns.

Journeys from Metrocentre enter Heddon-on-the-Wall NIS (letting passengers off at subsequent stops. Terminates at Village Entrance)
Journeys towards Metrocentre (then repeat the loop of H-o-t-W and continue towards the Metrocentre, this time in service.)


Limited Stop

Heddon-on-the-Wall - Methodist Church, Towne Gate & Village Entrance (Always that order to allow bus to terminate in adequate place)
Hexham Road (All stops between H-o-t-W and Throckley Roundabout)
Newburn Road (only stopping at Sainsbury’s, Park Rd & Church Bank) 
Stella Street
Clasper Way (Outside Holiday Inn)
Scotswood View (All Stops)
Metrocentre (Stand C)
logidoodah
14 Jul 2021, 10:14 am #745

Stagecoach to take over X84/X85 from GNE and introduce new X83 service between Heddon-on-the-Wall and Metrocentre, at an hourly frequency, giving H-o-t-W, Throckley, Newburn a link to the Metrocentre without having to change buses. 

Map - in regards to Newburn Bridge Road turn from Newburn Rd if it is too tight of a turn or cars blocking turn then buses can just use the roundabout 30 seconds up the road (both directions if needed), as I'm not sure if a normal sized single decker could make either of those turns.

Journeys from Metrocentre enter Heddon-on-the-Wall NIS (letting passengers off at subsequent stops. Terminates at Village Entrance)
Journeys towards Metrocentre (then repeat the loop of H-o-t-W and continue towards the Metrocentre, this time in service.)


Limited Stop

Heddon-on-the-Wall - Methodist Church, Towne Gate & Village Entrance (Always that order to allow bus to terminate in adequate place)
Hexham Road (All stops between H-o-t-W and Throckley Roundabout)
Newburn Road (only stopping at Sainsbury’s, Park Rd & Church Bank) 
Stella Street
Clasper Way (Outside Holiday Inn)
Scotswood View (All Stops)
Metrocentre (Stand C)

21 Aug 2021, 8:01 pm #746
I came across a timetable in the bygone area for the Sunderland 100.
What was the intention of this journey?
Did it ever see passangers?
Would anyone propose a return someday?

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ASX_Terranova
21 Aug 2021, 8:01 pm #746

I came across a timetable in the bygone area for the Sunderland 100.
What was the intention of this journey?
Did it ever see passangers?
Would anyone propose a return someday?


Twitter: @ASX_Terranova
Blog: https://asxterranova.home.blog/

DeltaMan



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22 Aug 2021, 11:16 am #747
(21 Aug 2021, 8:01 pm)ASX_Terranova I came across a timetable in the bygone area for the Sunderland 100.
What was the intention of this journey?
Did it ever see passangers?
Would anyone propose a return someday?
Hospital shift workers + glorified staff shuttle for Stagecoach drivers at Wheatsheaf
DeltaMan
22 Aug 2021, 11:16 am #747

(21 Aug 2021, 8:01 pm)ASX_Terranova I came across a timetable in the bygone area for the Sunderland 100.
What was the intention of this journey?
Did it ever see passangers?
Would anyone propose a return someday?
Hospital shift workers + glorified staff shuttle for Stagecoach drivers at Wheatsheaf

13 Sep 2021, 7:13 pm #748
New Services 77A/77C
South Shields - Laygate - Chichester - Mortimer School - West Park - Hospital - Mcanany Avenue - Westoe - South Shields

Route Map:
77A/77C Route Map

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ASX_Terranova
13 Sep 2021, 7:13 pm #748

New Services 77A/77C
South Shields - Laygate - Chichester - Mortimer School - West Park - Hospital - Mcanany Avenue - Westoe - South Shields

Route Map:
77A/77C Route Map


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06 Oct 2021, 1:56 pm #749
Would there be a market for a shuttle between the Airport & Newcastle City Centre???
Would probably take about 15 mins in journey time, which would beat the metro by about 7/10 mins.

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ASX_Terranova
06 Oct 2021, 1:56 pm #749

Would there be a market for a shuttle between the Airport & Newcastle City Centre???
Would probably take about 15 mins in journey time, which would beat the metro by about 7/10 mins.


Twitter: @ASX_Terranova
Blog: https://asxterranova.home.blog/

Train8261



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06 Oct 2021, 2:23 pm #750
(06 Oct 2021, 1:56 pm)ASX_Terranova Would there be a market for a shuttle between the Airport & Newcastle City Centre???
Would probably take about 15 mins in journey time, which would beat the metro by about 7/10 mins.
I highly doubt it. Newcastle Airport even on the Metro is very little people using it
Train8261
06 Oct 2021, 2:23 pm #750

(06 Oct 2021, 1:56 pm)ASX_Terranova Would there be a market for a shuttle between the Airport & Newcastle City Centre???
Would probably take about 15 mins in journey time, which would beat the metro by about 7/10 mins.
I highly doubt it. Newcastle Airport even on the Metro is very little people using it

Andreos1



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06 Oct 2021, 3:24 pm #751
(06 Oct 2021, 1:56 pm)ASX_Terranova Would there be a market for a shuttle between the Airport & Newcastle City Centre???
Would probably take about 15 mins in journey time, which would beat the metro by about 7/10 mins.

The PTE used to run a semi-fast service back in the day.
Can remember using it when I would go to the viewing platform at the airport.
Not sure there would be any need these days, with the metro heading there and those needing something quicker, being able to pick up a taxi relatively quickly. 

If I'm flying by myself say for business, I've used the bus and metro to get to the airport. It was fine and allowed me a bit of a bonus grice. 
Did it once when going on holiday a couple of years back with the eldest (bit of a pain with the bags  but more than affordable with a transfare and a CAT ticket).
Did it once on the tube as a family from Kings Cross to Heathrow (and return) and it was nothing but a hassle.

As most people catching this shuttle would have to get in to the town from the suburbs or estates, I would think they would be of a similar mindset.

Unless there's going to be a number of buses, from different locations? Could be done with quite a small PVR if managed correctly.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
06 Oct 2021, 3:24 pm #751

(06 Oct 2021, 1:56 pm)ASX_Terranova Would there be a market for a shuttle between the Airport & Newcastle City Centre???
Would probably take about 15 mins in journey time, which would beat the metro by about 7/10 mins.

The PTE used to run a semi-fast service back in the day.
Can remember using it when I would go to the viewing platform at the airport.
Not sure there would be any need these days, with the metro heading there and those needing something quicker, being able to pick up a taxi relatively quickly. 

If I'm flying by myself say for business, I've used the bus and metro to get to the airport. It was fine and allowed me a bit of a bonus grice. 
Did it once when going on holiday a couple of years back with the eldest (bit of a pain with the bags  but more than affordable with a transfare and a CAT ticket).
Did it once on the tube as a family from Kings Cross to Heathrow (and return) and it was nothing but a hassle.

As most people catching this shuttle would have to get in to the town from the suburbs or estates, I would think they would be of a similar mindset.

Unless there's going to be a number of buses, from different locations? Could be done with quite a small PVR if managed correctly.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

06 Oct 2021, 4:40 pm #752
(06 Oct 2021, 1:56 pm)ASX_Terranova Would there be a market for a shuttle between the Airport & Newcastle City Centre???
Would probably take about 15 mins in journey time, which would beat the metro by about 7/10 mins.

X77/X78 already do this and take 18 mins according to timetable.
stagecoachbusdepot
06 Oct 2021, 4:40 pm #752

(06 Oct 2021, 1:56 pm)ASX_Terranova Would there be a market for a shuttle between the Airport & Newcastle City Centre???
Would probably take about 15 mins in journey time, which would beat the metro by about 7/10 mins.

X77/X78 already do this and take 18 mins according to timetable.

07 Oct 2021, 1:17 pm #753
(06 Oct 2021, 3:24 pm)Andreos1 The PTE used to run a semi-fast service back in the day.
Can remember using it when I would go to the viewing platform at the airport.
Not sure there would be any need these days, with the metro heading there and those needing something quicker, being able to pick up a taxi relatively quickly. 

If I'm flying by myself say for business, I've used the bus and metro to get to the airport. It was fine and allowed me a bit of a bonus grice. 
Did it once when going on holiday a couple of years back with the eldest (bit of a pain with the bags  but more than affordable with a transfare and a CAT ticket).
Did it once on the tube as a family from Kings Cross to Heathrow (and return) and it was nothing but a hassle.

As most people catching this shuttle would have to get in to the town from the suburbs or estates, I would think they would be of a similar mindset.

Unless there's going to be a number of buses, from different locations? Could be done with quite a small PVR if managed correctly.
Could it work for area's that don't have the metro i.e. Derwentside, Tynedale, Washington, Chester-Le-Street, Durham, etc...

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Blog: https://asxterranova.home.blog/
ASX_Terranova
07 Oct 2021, 1:17 pm #753

(06 Oct 2021, 3:24 pm)Andreos1 The PTE used to run a semi-fast service back in the day.
Can remember using it when I would go to the viewing platform at the airport.
Not sure there would be any need these days, with the metro heading there and those needing something quicker, being able to pick up a taxi relatively quickly. 

If I'm flying by myself say for business, I've used the bus and metro to get to the airport. It was fine and allowed me a bit of a bonus grice. 
Did it once when going on holiday a couple of years back with the eldest (bit of a pain with the bags  but more than affordable with a transfare and a CAT ticket).
Did it once on the tube as a family from Kings Cross to Heathrow (and return) and it was nothing but a hassle.

As most people catching this shuttle would have to get in to the town from the suburbs or estates, I would think they would be of a similar mindset.

Unless there's going to be a number of buses, from different locations? Could be done with quite a small PVR if managed correctly.
Could it work for area's that don't have the metro i.e. Derwentside, Tynedale, Washington, Chester-Le-Street, Durham, etc...


Twitter: @ASX_Terranova
Blog: https://asxterranova.home.blog/

Andreos1



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07 Oct 2021, 1:45 pm #754
(07 Oct 2021, 1:17 pm)ASX_Terranova Could it work for area's that don't have the metro i.e. Derwentside, Tynedale, Washington, Chester-Le-Street, Durham, etc...

If its direct, has enough space for passengers and luggage AND there's enough demand to fill a bus from Stanley and Consett - why not?

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
07 Oct 2021, 1:45 pm #754

(07 Oct 2021, 1:17 pm)ASX_Terranova Could it work for area's that don't have the metro i.e. Derwentside, Tynedale, Washington, Chester-Le-Street, Durham, etc...

If its direct, has enough space for passengers and luggage AND there's enough demand to fill a bus from Stanley and Consett - why not?


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

V514DFT



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30 Nov 2021, 5:23 pm #755
Just a small suggestion really,why dont Stagecoach re-number the 87 to 73,since the 87 interworks with the 71 and 72

Kind Regards
Tez
V514DFT
30 Nov 2021, 5:23 pm #755

Just a small suggestion really,why dont Stagecoach re-number the 87 to 73,since the 87 interworks with the 71 and 72


Kind Regards
Tez

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30 Nov 2021, 6:41 pm #756
(30 Nov 2021, 5:23 pm)V514DFT Just a small suggestion really,why dont Stagecoach re-number the 87 to 73,since the 87 interworks with the 71 and 72
Historic I would imagine as isn't the 87 a stopping version of the X87/88. And as long as it has been around I'm sure there was a 73 also originally.
If it stopped interworking with the 71 and 72 and started to interwork with another service instead would you then need/want to renumber those 
Similar in South Shields the 12, 30 and X20 all interwork with complete random numbers but again Historic.
LVK 404L
30 Nov 2021, 6:41 pm #756

(30 Nov 2021, 5:23 pm)V514DFT Just a small suggestion really,why dont Stagecoach re-number the 87 to 73,since the 87 interworks with the 71 and 72
Historic I would imagine as isn't the 87 a stopping version of the X87/88. And as long as it has been around I'm sure there was a 73 also originally.
If it stopped interworking with the 71 and 72 and started to interwork with another service instead would you then need/want to renumber those 
Similar in South Shields the 12, 30 and X20 all interwork with complete random numbers but again Historic.

V514DFT



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02 Dec 2021, 10:47 pm #757
(30 Nov 2021, 6:41 pm)ifm001 Historic I would imagine as isn't the 87 a stopping version of the X87/88. And as long as it has been around I'm sure there was a 73 also originally.
If it stopped interworking with the 71 and 72 and started to interwork with another service instead would you then need/want to renumber those 
Similar in South Shields the 12, 30 and X20 all interwork with complete random numbers but again Historic.
Fair point,seemed to make sense in my head Tongue  Wink

Kind Regards
Tez
V514DFT
02 Dec 2021, 10:47 pm #757

(30 Nov 2021, 6:41 pm)ifm001 Historic I would imagine as isn't the 87 a stopping version of the X87/88. And as long as it has been around I'm sure there was a 73 also originally.
If it stopped interworking with the 71 and 72 and started to interwork with another service instead would you then need/want to renumber those 
Similar in South Shields the 12, 30 and X20 all interwork with complete random numbers but again Historic.
Fair point,seemed to make sense in my head Tongue  Wink


Kind Regards
Tez

03 Dec 2021, 7:35 am #758
The only suggestion I ever made to Stagecoach North East was routing a number of X24 via Washington Galleries. The route the drivers take from Hastings Hill to Gateshead is fluid and during the prolonged Testo's farce a good number used Penshaw, A1231, A195. As loadings are very erratic during the core day it might win them a bit of business, and be faster than the 2/2A
54APhotography
03 Dec 2021, 7:35 am #758

The only suggestion I ever made to Stagecoach North East was routing a number of X24 via Washington Galleries. The route the drivers take from Hastings Hill to Gateshead is fluid and during the prolonged Testo's farce a good number used Penshaw, A1231, A195. As loadings are very erratic during the core day it might win them a bit of business, and be faster than the 2/2A

V514DFT



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03 Dec 2021, 11:12 am #759
(03 Dec 2021, 7:35 am)54APhotography The only suggestion I ever made to Stagecoach North East was routing a number of X24 via Washington Galleries. The route the drivers take from Hastings Hill to Gateshead is fluid and during the prolonged Testo's farce a good number used Penshaw, A1231, A195. As loadings are very erratic during the core day it might win them a bit of business, and be faster than the 2/2A
I'd have leave the X24 the way it is,but have your route suggestion and number it X14,so you' have X14 X24,and X34

Kind Regards
Tez
V514DFT
03 Dec 2021, 11:12 am #759

(03 Dec 2021, 7:35 am)54APhotography The only suggestion I ever made to Stagecoach North East was routing a number of X24 via Washington Galleries. The route the drivers take from Hastings Hill to Gateshead is fluid and during the prolonged Testo's farce a good number used Penshaw, A1231, A195. As loadings are very erratic during the core day it might win them a bit of business, and be faster than the 2/2A
I'd have leave the X24 the way it is,but have your route suggestion and number it X14,so you' have X14 X24,and X34


Kind Regards
Tez

03 Dec 2021, 11:43 am #760
(03 Dec 2021, 7:35 am)54APhotography The only suggestion I ever made to Stagecoach North East was routing a number of X24 via Washington Galleries. The route the drivers take from Hastings Hill to Gateshead is fluid and during the prolonged Testo's farce a good number used Penshaw, A1231, A195. As loadings are very erratic during the core day it might win them a bit of business, and be faster than the 2/2A

(03 Dec 2021, 11:12 am)V514DFT I'd have leave the X24 the way it is,but have your route suggestion and number it X14,so you' have X14 X24,and X34

See I'd have the X24/A to Sunderland, X34 to South Shields (leave them the way they are) and then have the X44 to Hartlepool, and Incorporate this into GNE X9/X10 or make it X54. This ensures that Stagecoach have an express service to each place they have presence as this ensures people stay with them, and also that they link to their biggest territory in the NE. 
Maybe even try to battle Arriva in Sunderland - Hartlepool where GNE retreated from

So then you'd have 
685 - Newcastle - Carisle
X24/A - Newcastle - Sunderland
X34 - Newcastle - South Shields
X44 - Newcastle - Hartlepool - Middlesborough
X54 - Newcastle - Dalton Park - Peterlee - Middlesborough
logidoodah
03 Dec 2021, 11:43 am #760

(03 Dec 2021, 7:35 am)54APhotography The only suggestion I ever made to Stagecoach North East was routing a number of X24 via Washington Galleries. The route the drivers take from Hastings Hill to Gateshead is fluid and during the prolonged Testo's farce a good number used Penshaw, A1231, A195. As loadings are very erratic during the core day it might win them a bit of business, and be faster than the 2/2A

(03 Dec 2021, 11:12 am)V514DFT I'd have leave the X24 the way it is,but have your route suggestion and number it X14,so you' have X14 X24,and X34

See I'd have the X24/A to Sunderland, X34 to South Shields (leave them the way they are) and then have the X44 to Hartlepool, and Incorporate this into GNE X9/X10 or make it X54. This ensures that Stagecoach have an express service to each place they have presence as this ensures people stay with them, and also that they link to their biggest territory in the NE. 
Maybe even try to battle Arriva in Sunderland - Hartlepool where GNE retreated from

So then you'd have 
685 - Newcastle - Carisle
X24/A - Newcastle - Sunderland
X34 - Newcastle - South Shields
X44 - Newcastle - Hartlepool - Middlesborough
X54 - Newcastle - Dalton Park - Peterlee - Middlesborough

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