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L469 YVK



3,545
10 Jan 2022, 6:27 pm #141
When will these month's changes be fully announced if still going ahead?
L469 YVK
10 Jan 2022, 6:27 pm #141

When will these month's changes be fully announced if still going ahead?

peter



993
10 Jan 2022, 6:53 pm #142
(10 Jan 2022, 6:27 pm)L469 YVK When will these month's changes be fully announced if still going ahead?

They're all on VOSA now so seems as though they will still be happening.
peter
10 Jan 2022, 6:53 pm #142

(10 Jan 2022, 6:27 pm)L469 YVK When will these month's changes be fully announced if still going ahead?

They're all on VOSA now so seems as though they will still be happening.

Train8261



1,016
11 Jan 2022, 2:20 am #143
Some are up on bus times as well
Train8261
11 Jan 2022, 2:20 am #143

Some are up on bus times as well

peter



993
11 Jan 2022, 10:40 pm #144
New timetables now up on the GNE site

-Hexham interworkings aren't immediately obvious - looks like the 680/684/688 will interwork in a roundabout sort of way, as well as the 686/687/689.
-The 55/X20 are now equally spaced from Sunderland, while on the X1 the :19 journeys will extend to Dalton Park and the :49 journeys to Peterlee.
-Looks like the 10/10A/10B will all interwork as opposed to the 10 being standalone
-Overall looks to be nothing that we didn't already know about
peter
11 Jan 2022, 10:40 pm #144

New timetables now up on the GNE site

-Hexham interworkings aren't immediately obvious - looks like the 680/684/688 will interwork in a roundabout sort of way, as well as the 686/687/689.
-The 55/X20 are now equally spaced from Sunderland, while on the X1 the :19 journeys will extend to Dalton Park and the :49 journeys to Peterlee.
-Looks like the 10/10A/10B will all interwork as opposed to the 10 being standalone
-Overall looks to be nothing that we didn't already know about

Jimmi



10,967
11 Jan 2022, 11:45 pm #145
(11 Jan 2022, 10:40 pm)peter New timetables now up on the GNE site

-Hexham interworkings aren't immediately obvious - looks like the 680/684/688 will interwork in a roundabout sort of way, as well as the 686/687/689.
-The 55/X20 are now equally spaced from Sunderland, while on the X1 the :19 journeys will extend to Dalton Park and the :49 journeys to Peterlee.
-Looks like the 10/10A/10B will all interwork as opposed to the 10 being standalone
-Overall looks to be nothing that we didn't already know about

I was certainly under the impression that the 680/684/688 would all interwork with one another which also goes some way as to the allocation of Versas at Hexham on the 684 as a replacement for the E400MMCs.

687/689 already confirmed to be interworking with Consett doing some 687 runs between the 689 to/from Consett, presumably the other journeys will be the bus that does the 686 off peak. 686 is cut to run Prudhoe to Wylam only apart from the first Prudhoe trip starting from Corbridge, St Helens Lane and the last one from Prudhoe terminating at Corbridge.

684 will also run to Queen Elizabeth High School at school times

Another thing to note is that the X10 will return to departing from Eldon Square Bus Station, seemingly from the same stand as the X1.
Jimmi
11 Jan 2022, 11:45 pm #145

(11 Jan 2022, 10:40 pm)peter New timetables now up on the GNE site

-Hexham interworkings aren't immediately obvious - looks like the 680/684/688 will interwork in a roundabout sort of way, as well as the 686/687/689.
-The 55/X20 are now equally spaced from Sunderland, while on the X1 the :19 journeys will extend to Dalton Park and the :49 journeys to Peterlee.
-Looks like the 10/10A/10B will all interwork as opposed to the 10 being standalone
-Overall looks to be nothing that we didn't already know about

I was certainly under the impression that the 680/684/688 would all interwork with one another which also goes some way as to the allocation of Versas at Hexham on the 684 as a replacement for the E400MMCs.

687/689 already confirmed to be interworking with Consett doing some 687 runs between the 689 to/from Consett, presumably the other journeys will be the bus that does the 686 off peak. 686 is cut to run Prudhoe to Wylam only apart from the first Prudhoe trip starting from Corbridge, St Helens Lane and the last one from Prudhoe terminating at Corbridge.

684 will also run to Queen Elizabeth High School at school times

Another thing to note is that the X10 will return to departing from Eldon Square Bus Station, seemingly from the same stand as the X1.

peter



993
11 Jan 2022, 11:58 pm #146
(11 Jan 2022, 11:45 pm)Jimmi I was certainly under the impression that the 680/684/688 would all interwork with one another which also goes some way as to the allocation of Versas at Hexham on the 684 as a replacement for the E400MMCs.

687/689 already confirmed to be interworking with Consett doing some 687 runs between the 689 to/from Consett, presumably the other journeys will be the bus that does the 686 off peak. 686 is cut to run Prudhoe to Wylam only apart from the first Prudhoe trip starting from Corbridge, St Helens Lane and the last one from Prudhoe terminating at Corbridge.

684 will also run to Queen Elizabeth High School at school times

Another thing to note is that the X10 will return to departing from Eldon Square Bus Station, seemingly from the same stand as the X1.

Yeah it deffo looks like they interwork, tho the pattern is quite complex with the 680/688 being every 2 hours as opposed to hourly, would say it's a PVR of either 4 or 5. Yeah the 687 interworking with the 686 and 689 accounts for most journeys but the ones around 08:00 and 15:00 are when the buses are on both the 686 and 689 so presumably they fit into the 680/684/688 pattern as well somehow. I'm sure BusTimes will reveal all when the timetables start.
peter
11 Jan 2022, 11:58 pm #146

(11 Jan 2022, 11:45 pm)Jimmi I was certainly under the impression that the 680/684/688 would all interwork with one another which also goes some way as to the allocation of Versas at Hexham on the 684 as a replacement for the E400MMCs.

687/689 already confirmed to be interworking with Consett doing some 687 runs between the 689 to/from Consett, presumably the other journeys will be the bus that does the 686 off peak. 686 is cut to run Prudhoe to Wylam only apart from the first Prudhoe trip starting from Corbridge, St Helens Lane and the last one from Prudhoe terminating at Corbridge.

684 will also run to Queen Elizabeth High School at school times

Another thing to note is that the X10 will return to departing from Eldon Square Bus Station, seemingly from the same stand as the X1.

Yeah it deffo looks like they interwork, tho the pattern is quite complex with the 680/688 being every 2 hours as opposed to hourly, would say it's a PVR of either 4 or 5. Yeah the 687 interworking with the 686 and 689 accounts for most journeys but the ones around 08:00 and 15:00 are when the buses are on both the 686 and 689 so presumably they fit into the 680/684/688 pattern as well somehow. I'm sure BusTimes will reveal all when the timetables start.

Jimmi



10,967
12 Jan 2022, 12:41 am #147
(11 Jan 2022, 11:58 pm)peter Yeah it deffo looks like they interwork, tho the pattern is quite complex with the 680/688 being every 2 hours as opposed to hourly, would say it's a PVR of either 4 or 5. Yeah the 687 interworking with the 686 and 689 accounts for most journeys but the ones around 08:00 and 15:00 are when the buses are on both the 686 and 689 so presumably they fit into the 680/684/688 pattern as well somehow. I'm sure BusTimes will reveal all when the timetables start.
I've come to the conclusion of 4 buses for the 680/684/688, off peak seems like two will be standalone 684 and two will be 680/684/688. The 687 seems to fit in with some of those boards on an afternoon at least (didn't work out the full day's boards as it gets a bit more confusing around school finish time)
Jimmi
12 Jan 2022, 12:41 am #147

(11 Jan 2022, 11:58 pm)peter Yeah it deffo looks like they interwork, tho the pattern is quite complex with the 680/688 being every 2 hours as opposed to hourly, would say it's a PVR of either 4 or 5. Yeah the 687 interworking with the 686 and 689 accounts for most journeys but the ones around 08:00 and 15:00 are when the buses are on both the 686 and 689 so presumably they fit into the 680/684/688 pattern as well somehow. I'm sure BusTimes will reveal all when the timetables start.
I've come to the conclusion of 4 buses for the 680/684/688, off peak seems like two will be standalone 684 and two will be 680/684/688. The 687 seems to fit in with some of those boards on an afternoon at least (didn't work out the full day's boards as it gets a bit more confusing around school finish time)

12 Jan 2022, 6:52 am #148
(23 Dec 2021, 12:45 pm)Storx Might aswell just bring back the 43/44 if doing that. There's been umpeen changes and everytime they're getting closer to where it all started anyway. Can't really remember anyone ever complaining about the routes either (excluding delays).

Leave the X72 alone. Thought it would be a white elephant but actually brilliant route . Quicker than  the X30 to The Arch south Moor if you incude walking time from the bus station. Does not seem too long from Newcastle
pww1965
12 Jan 2022, 6:52 am #148

(23 Dec 2021, 12:45 pm)Storx Might aswell just bring back the 43/44 if doing that. There's been umpeen changes and everytime they're getting closer to where it all started anyway. Can't really remember anyone ever complaining about the routes either (excluding delays).

Leave the X72 alone. Thought it would be a white elephant but actually brilliant route . Quicker than  the X30 to The Arch south Moor if you incude walking time from the bus station. Does not seem too long from Newcastle

Michael



19,145
12 Jan 2022, 10:02 am #149
Full changes now online:

https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/service-ch...30-january

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
12 Jan 2022, 10:02 am #149

Full changes now online:

https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/service-ch...30-january


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

12 Jan 2022, 10:10 am #150
(12 Jan 2022, 10:02 am)Michael Full changes now online:

https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/service-ch...30-january

I love how there's absolutely no mention of the huge downgrade in vehicles on the X84, sorry 684
streetdeckfan
12 Jan 2022, 10:10 am #150

(12 Jan 2022, 10:02 am)Michael Full changes now online:

https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/service-ch...30-january

I love how there's absolutely no mention of the huge downgrade in vehicles on the X84, sorry 684

Dan

Site Administrator

18,100
12 Jan 2022, 10:14 am #151
(12 Jan 2022, 10:10 am)streetdeckfan I love how there's absolutely no mention of the huge downgrade in vehicles on the X84, sorry 684

It'd be an odd thing to shout about...

The customers on that route will already know - they've been on Versas now for weeks - and it's more or less the same specification offered by the Arriva-operated journeys on the 685.
Dan
12 Jan 2022, 10:14 am #151

(12 Jan 2022, 10:10 am)streetdeckfan I love how there's absolutely no mention of the huge downgrade in vehicles on the X84, sorry 684

It'd be an odd thing to shout about...

The customers on that route will already know - they've been on Versas now for weeks - and it's more or less the same specification offered by the Arriva-operated journeys on the 685.

Andreos1



14,155
12 Jan 2022, 10:24 am #152
(12 Jan 2022, 10:10 am)streetdeckfan I love how there's absolutely no mention of the huge downgrade in vehicles on the X84, sorry 684
I love the fact people power has apparently forced change on the X10 vehicle allocation.
If there's enough people wanting the Interdecks back...

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
12 Jan 2022, 10:24 am #152

(12 Jan 2022, 10:10 am)streetdeckfan I love how there's absolutely no mention of the huge downgrade in vehicles on the X84, sorry 684
I love the fact people power has apparently forced change on the X10 vehicle allocation.
If there's enough people wanting the Interdecks back...


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

12 Jan 2022, 10:27 am #153
(12 Jan 2022, 10:14 am)Dan It'd be an odd thing to shout about...

The customers on that route will already know - they've been on Versas now for weeks - and it's more or less the same specification offered by the Arriva-operated journeys on the 685.

Surely a simple "Due to low passenger numbers, this service will now be operated by single decker vehicles" wouldn't have caused too much trouble.

And saying they're more or less the same spec as Arriva doesn't exactly inspire much confidence in the vehicles on the route!
streetdeckfan
12 Jan 2022, 10:27 am #153

(12 Jan 2022, 10:14 am)Dan It'd be an odd thing to shout about...

The customers on that route will already know - they've been on Versas now for weeks - and it's more or less the same specification offered by the Arriva-operated journeys on the 685.

Surely a simple "Due to low passenger numbers, this service will now be operated by single decker vehicles" wouldn't have caused too much trouble.

And saying they're more or less the same spec as Arriva doesn't exactly inspire much confidence in the vehicles on the route!

Dan

Site Administrator

18,100
12 Jan 2022, 10:34 am #154
(12 Jan 2022, 10:27 am)streetdeckfan Surely a simple "Due to low passenger numbers, this service will now be operated by single decker vehicles" wouldn't have caused too much trouble.

And saying they're more or less the same spec as Arriva doesn't exactly inspire much confidence in the vehicles on the route!

It wouldn't have caused too much trouble, but equally, do people really need confirmation that their service has been downgraded? I don't think so. The X10 vehicle allocation can be argued as a downgrade but a positive spin has been put on this. There's not much of a positive spin going from nearly new E400s to Versas.

The important things (improved service to those that use the 682, a more co-ordinated timetable with the 685) have been highlighted. That's the main thing that people will care about.
Dan
12 Jan 2022, 10:34 am #154

(12 Jan 2022, 10:27 am)streetdeckfan Surely a simple "Due to low passenger numbers, this service will now be operated by single decker vehicles" wouldn't have caused too much trouble.

And saying they're more or less the same spec as Arriva doesn't exactly inspire much confidence in the vehicles on the route!

It wouldn't have caused too much trouble, but equally, do people really need confirmation that their service has been downgraded? I don't think so. The X10 vehicle allocation can be argued as a downgrade but a positive spin has been put on this. There's not much of a positive spin going from nearly new E400s to Versas.

The important things (improved service to those that use the 682, a more co-ordinated timetable with the 685) have been highlighted. That's the main thing that people will care about.

Dan

Site Administrator

18,100
12 Jan 2022, 10:41 am #155
(12 Jan 2022, 10:24 am)Andreos1 I love the fact people power has apparently forced change on the X10 vehicle allocation.
If there's enough people wanting the Interdecks back...

I notice RNIB had declared this a 'campaign win' last week, before GNE's news story went out today:
https://twitter.com/RNIB_campaigns/statu...1688252426
Dan
12 Jan 2022, 10:41 am #155

(12 Jan 2022, 10:24 am)Andreos1 I love the fact people power has apparently forced change on the X10 vehicle allocation.
If there's enough people wanting the Interdecks back...

I notice RNIB had declared this a 'campaign win' last week, before GNE's news story went out today:
https://twitter.com/RNIB_campaigns/statu...1688252426

12 Jan 2022, 10:47 am #156
(12 Jan 2022, 10:34 am)Dan It wouldn't have caused too much trouble, but equally, do people really need confirmation that their service has been downgraded? I don't think so. The X10 vehicle allocation can be argued as a downgrade but a positive spin has been put on this. There's not much of a positive spin going from nearly new E400s to Versas.

The important things (improved service to those that use the 682, a more co-ordinated timetable with the 685) have been highlighted. That's the main thing that people will care about.

Do the versas have the same features that passengers are accustomed to? Do they have USB ports, working NSA?

It's not about it having a positive spin, it's about informing the customer of the changes!

What about the people who are temporarily working from home, they'll read that announcement and just think the number has been changed, only to rock up when restrictions have eased to find a Versa rather than their usual E400!
streetdeckfan
12 Jan 2022, 10:47 am #156

(12 Jan 2022, 10:34 am)Dan It wouldn't have caused too much trouble, but equally, do people really need confirmation that their service has been downgraded? I don't think so. The X10 vehicle allocation can be argued as a downgrade but a positive spin has been put on this. There's not much of a positive spin going from nearly new E400s to Versas.

The important things (improved service to those that use the 682, a more co-ordinated timetable with the 685) have been highlighted. That's the main thing that people will care about.

Do the versas have the same features that passengers are accustomed to? Do they have USB ports, working NSA?

It's not about it having a positive spin, it's about informing the customer of the changes!

What about the people who are temporarily working from home, they'll read that announcement and just think the number has been changed, only to rock up when restrictions have eased to find a Versa rather than their usual E400!

12 Jan 2022, 7:05 pm #157
Yet another Solo on the X85 noticed today, 636 toddled along Percy Street just after 2pm.
54APhotography
12 Jan 2022, 7:05 pm #157

Yet another Solo on the X85 noticed today, 636 toddled along Percy Street just after 2pm.

Michael



19,145
12 Jan 2022, 7:46 pm #158
Looks like the X1 is now staying every 15 minutes between Newcastle and Easington.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
12 Jan 2022, 7:46 pm #158

Looks like the X1 is now staying every 15 minutes between Newcastle and Easington.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Andreos1



14,155
12 Jan 2022, 8:06 pm #159
(12 Jan 2022, 10:41 am)Dan I notice RNIB had declared this a 'campaign win' last week, before GNE's news story went out today:
https://twitter.com/RNIB_campaigns/statu...1688252426
So the RNIB are claiming it as a campaign win and GNE are saying passenger power won? 

Didn't realise either were unhappy to be honest!

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
12 Jan 2022, 8:06 pm #159

(12 Jan 2022, 10:41 am)Dan I notice RNIB had declared this a 'campaign win' last week, before GNE's news story went out today:
https://twitter.com/RNIB_campaigns/statu...1688252426
So the RNIB are claiming it as a campaign win and GNE are saying passenger power won? 

Didn't realise either were unhappy to be honest!


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

MurdnunoC



3,965
12 Jan 2022, 8:48 pm #160
(12 Jan 2022, 8:06 pm)Andreos1 So the RNIB are claiming it as a campaign win and GNE are saying passenger power won? 

Didn't realise either were unhappy to be honest!

I like other people to have long, less luxurious journeys up and down the A19 so I think I'll claim I was victorious too.
MurdnunoC
12 Jan 2022, 8:48 pm #160

(12 Jan 2022, 8:06 pm)Andreos1 So the RNIB are claiming it as a campaign win and GNE are saying passenger power won? 

Didn't realise either were unhappy to be honest!

I like other people to have long, less luxurious journeys up and down the A19 so I think I'll claim I was victorious too.

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