Stagecoach North East: Order Predictions
#21
RE: Stagecoach North East: Order Predictions
Double decker was the standard for economics until the E300's came along. The Volvo Olympions were delivered with "economic" local fleet branding. Maybe a split allocation of current e300s and e400mmc (ideal for peak journeys) or maybe 6 mmc's for x34 with older tridents to economic services?

Kind regards

Chris

#22
RE: Stagecoach North East: Order Predictions
5x E200MMC - 100 (Slatyford)
Replacement for 22570/74/80/81
22570/74/80/81 will be allocated to services 71/72/87 alongside 24113 - 24115.

14x E200MMC - Sunderland 
Replacement for 36081 - 89 which will be cascaded elsewhere in the UK with Stagecoach.
36090 will remain at Sunderland allowing 39709 to transfer to South Shields allowing the withdrawal of 35188.
36091 will remain at Sunderland allowing 39727 to transfer to Slatyford to allow the withdrawl of A ALX300.
36092 will remain at Sunderland allowing both 34605 and 35189 to be Withdrawn.
36093/94 transfer to Walkergate and act as spares allowing 22022/24 to be withdrawn.

3x E400MMC - Sunderland 
New buses for the X24 allowing for 24001 - 24003 to be withdrawn.

4x E400MMC - South Shields 
New buses for the X34 allowing for 19641 - 19644 to remain at South Shields and be allocated to the Economic services.
27726 - 29 to be split between Slatyford and Stockton to allow for further ALX300s to be withdrawn.

That's my predictions.



#23
RE: Stagecoach North East: Order Predictions
22 - Alexander Dennis Enviro 400MMC's - South Shields - X34/Economics

19641 to 19644 to Slatyford to replace CitySightSeeing Dennis Trident ALX400's
27726 to 27740 to replace remaining ALX300's at Stockton as part of Depot Standardisation

24 - Alexander Dennis Enviro 200MMC - Hartlepool

36957 to 39714 split between Walkergate and Slatyford replacing Alexander ALX300's

26 - Alexander Dennis Enviro 400MMC - Walkergate - 39/40

12061 to 12086 to replace older Enviro 400's in the fleet at Walkergate & Slatyford

#24
RE: Stagecoach North East: Order Predictions
(26 Nov 2017, 4:42 pm)Malarkey Wrote: 22 - Alexander Dennis Enviro 400MMC's - South Shields - X34/Economics

19641 to 19644 to Slatyford to replace CitySightSeeing Dennis Trident ALX400's
27726 to 27740 to replace remaining ALX300's at Stockton as part of Depot Standardisation

24 - Alexander Dennis Enviro 200MMC - Hartlepool

36957 to 39714 split between Walkergate and Slatyford replacing Alexander ALX300's

26 - Alexander Dennis Enviro 400MMC - Walkergate - 39/40

12061 to 12086 to replace older Enviro 400's in the fleet at Walkergate & Slatyford

I don't think those ALX400s need replacing just yet, 19641 - 44 could always join 19645 - 47 on the X63. Then it would release 4 E400s in the 192xx series to move to Slatyford to allow further ALX300s to be withdrawn.



#25
RE: Stagecoach North East: Order Predictions
Are order for stagecoach north east for next year I am happy to see new buses for stagecoach Hartlepool is 27726 to 27740 going to Stockton depot replace the last of alx 300 buses is that right then.

#26
RE: Stagecoach North East: Order Predictions
(28 Nov 2017, 9:29 pm)glen1234 Wrote: Are order for stagecoach north east for next year I am happy to see new buses for stagecoach Hartlepool is 27726 to 27740 going to Stockton depot replace the last of alx 300 buses is that right then.

this thread is about predictions. In other words what we "think" not what we "know"

#27
RE: Stagecoach North East: Order Predictions
These are just suggestions, and wildly optimistic at that. I doubt there's a cat in hell's chance of 72 new buses being purchased, even allowing for those that were deferred to the next financial year.

#28
RE: Stagecoach North East: Order Predictions
(28 Nov 2017, 9:29 pm)glen1234 Wrote: Are order for stagecoach north east for next year I am happy to see new buses for stagecoach Hartlepool is 27726 to 27740 going to Stockton depot replace the last of alx 300 buses is that right then.

Nothing has been confirmed as of yet, its just speculation.
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#29
RE: Stagecoach North East: Order Predictions
thank you for info mate

#30
RE: Stagecoach North East: Order Predictions
New cascade suggestion:
22570/74/79/80/81 to devon in trade for 15781-5 to allow the 100 to  have the much needed double decker conversion.
This will also require a re-route avoiding the low bridge so I have made a new one. On the new route buses will operate via Scotswood view, Holinside way, onto the A1, exit the A1 from the A184 slip road then normal route in both directions.
The spares will be the leather seater E400s (19194/6/7)
15781-5 will recieve minimal branding for the 100 with the same 100 logo the yutong demo had but on the scanias above the doors, above driver cab and inside the rear poster boards.
Inside the side posters boards there will be the images on that are on the current E300s at the back windows 
These will have wi-fi and usb chargers fitted
What are your thoughts

#31
RE: Stagecoach North East: Order Predictions
(24 Feb 2019, 11:30 am)GNE6312 Wrote: New cascade suggestion:
22570/74/79/80/81 to devon in trade for 15781-5 to allow the 100 to  have the much needed double decker conversion.
This will also require a re-route avoiding the low bridge so I have made a new one. On the new route buses will operate via Scotswood view, Holinside way, onto the A1, exit the A1 from the A184 slip road then normal route in both directions.
The spares will be the leather seater E400s (19194/6/7)
15781-5 will recieve minimal branding for the 100 with the same 100 logo the yutong demo had but on the scanias above the doors, above driver cab and inside the rear poster boards.
Inside the side posters boards there will be the images on that are on the current E300s at the back windows 
These will have wi-fi and usb chargers fitted
What are your thoughts

22579 can't transfer as it's withdrawn due to the crash with the Taxi. Also the 100 goes under a low bridge.



#32
RE: Stagecoach North East: Order Predictions
(24 Feb 2019, 12:16 pm)S830OFT Wrote: 22579 can't transfer as it's withdrawn due to the crash with the Taxi. Also the 100 goes under a low bridge.

Then 24114 can transfer instead. There is details I have included about a reroute away from the low bridge in my post. The reroute only adds 0.6 miles (the current route is 4.4 miles the new route is 5 miles)
The re route is via Scotswood view, Holinside way, onto the A1, exit the A1 from the A184 slip road then normal route in both directions.

#33
RE: Stagecoach North East: Order Predictions
Will the transbus E300s be coming to Newcastle in the summer when tesside get the new buses?

#34
RE: Stagecoach North East: Order Predictions
A plan to get the omnilinks off the X24 and the 08 reg MANviro 300s off the 100

15920-23 to transfer from lillyhall depot (Cumbria) to Sunderland Depot these viechles will be replaced in Cumbria by new viechles

15920-22 will remain in stagecoach gold livery with branding for the X24 Sunderland city centre, Chester road, Gateshead, Newcastle City centre (in stagecoach gold double decker style) on the side

On the engine flap (where the Map at the rear usually is it will say:
Newcastle to Sunderland in just 39 minutes & Sunderland to Newcastle in 43 minutes

This will displace 24001-3 to the 100
This allows the 100 MANviro 300s to go to elsewhere
24001-3 will receive stagecoach fleet colours with minimal 100 branding

What are your thoughts of my plan?

#35
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(27 Jun 2019, 3:22 pm)GNE6312 Wrote: A plan to get the omnilinks off the X24 and the 08 reg MANviro 300s off the 100

15920-23 to transfer from lillyhall depot (Cumbria) to Sunderland Depot these viechles will be replaced in Cumbria by new viechles

15920-22 will remain in stagecoach gold livery with branding for the X24 Sunderland city centre, Chester road, Gateshead, Newcastle City centre (in stagecoach gold double decker style) on the side

On the engine flap (where the Map at the rear usually is it will say:
Newcastle to Sunderland in just 39 minutes & Sunderland to Newcastle in 43 minutes

This will displace 24001-3 to the 100
This allows the 100 MANviro 300s to go to elsewhere
24001-3 will receive stagecoach fleet colours with minimal 100 branding

What are your thoughts of my plan?

First the 100 needs 4 Buses, 2nd 24001-3 are so unreliable so there’s no gain. 3rd why would Cumbria just give E400s Over to SNE and why Stagecoach Gold?


#36
Stagecoach North East: Order Predictions
(27 Jun 2019, 3:22 pm)GNE6312 Wrote: A plan to get the omnilinks off the X24 and the 08 reg MANviro 300s off the 100

15920-23 to transfer from lillyhall depot (Cumbria) to Sunderland Depot these viechles will be replaced in Cumbria by new viechles

15920-22 will remain in stagecoach gold livery with branding for the X24 Sunderland city centre, Chester road, Gateshead, Newcastle City centre (in stagecoach gold double decker style) on the side

On the engine flap (where the Map at the rear usually is it will say:
Newcastle to Sunderland in just 39 minutes & Sunderland to Newcastle in 43 minutes

This will displace 24001-3 to the 100
This allows the 100 MANviro 300s to go to elsewhere
24001-3 will receive stagecoach fleet colours with minimal 100 branding

What are your thoughts of my plan?


Stagecoach gold livery is getting phased out as stagecoach wants the fleet in normal livery


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#37
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(27 Jun 2019, 4:33 pm)NewcastleOne Wrote:

First the 100 needs 4 Buses, 2nd 24001-3 are so unreliable so there’s no gain. 3rd why would Cumbria just give E400s Over to SNE and why Stagecoach Gold?



As I said the buses from Cumbria will be replaced by brand new buses

And they are to be stagecoach gold so they can still be of a high spec for the X24 like the omnilinks.


#38
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26276 - 26293 - Stockton for services 36/37/38.

22016/22018 - 22020/22061 - 22064 will be directly withdrawn. 22026 will also be replaced, with the spare Enviro 400 taking it's place in reserve...

The arrival of these new buses will release 24101, 24103, 24105 - 24112 to Slatyford.

22012/22013/22050/22051/22065 - 22070 will be withdrawn as a result.

24x ADL Enviro 400MMCs - Sunderland for the E1/E2/E6/X24/X34 services.

19641/19642 will transfer to Stockton to provide additional capacity buses, this will allow 22514/22515 to transfer to Slatyford allowing 22080/22081 to be withdrawn.

19643/19644 will transfer to Walkergate, this will allow the withdrawl of 22022/22024.

24001 - 24003 will be withdrawn from service at Sunderland.

27726 - 27740 will transfer to Slatyford, this will allow the withdrawl of 22082/22341 - 22348/22408 - 22413.

34605/34611 will also be withdrawn, as a result of having 2 additional spares for these services.



#39
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(14 Sep 2019, 1:15 pm)S830OFT Wrote: 26276 - 26293 - Stockton for services 36/37/38.

22016/22018 - 22020/22061 - 22064 will be directly withdrawn. 22026 will also be replaced, with the spare Enviro 400 taking it's place in reserve...

The arrival of these new buses will release 24101, 24103, 24105 - 24112 to Slatyford.

22012/22013/22050/22051/22065 - 22070 will be withdrawn as a result.

24x ADL Enviro 400MMCs - Sunderland for the E1/E2/E6/X24/X34 services.

19641/19642 will transfer to Stockton to provide additional capacity buses, this will allow 22514/22515 to transfer to Slatyford allowing 22080/22081 to be withdrawn.

19643/19644 will transfer to Walkergate, this will allow the withdrawl of 22022/22024.

24001 - 24003 will be withdrawn from service at Sunderland.

27726 - 27740 will transfer to Slatyford, this will allow the withdrawl of 22082/22341 - 22348/22408 - 22413.

34605/34611 will also be withdrawn, as a result of having 2 additional spares for these services.


When I last checked the Scania Bus & Coach website they still make the E300 NG & E400 NG (unless it hasn't been updated in a while). I think it would be great if Sunderland got more Gas Buses. Though I assume they will need extra funding for this.


Another order prediction would be ADL E200 MMCs (smaller ones) for Sunderland 4/5/10/11/23 and Slatyford 6/7/8 allowing several MAN E200s to be withdrawn or transferred elsewhere within Stagecoach. As well as several "Smart Hybrid" ADL E400s for Walkergate, allowing several of the oldest ADL E400s to be placed in reserve/withdrawn - 4 of which would replace the current open-top tridents.


I think South Shields depot would be an ideal depot for a fleet of electric buses - for 3/4/7/8.


Also I assume several vehicles at Walkergate & Slatyford will need exhaust modifications to upgrade them to Euro 6 for the clean air / low emissions zone in Newcastle that may be coming into effect soon.




#40
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Not sure if its true,but i typed in stagecoach preseeved ALX300,and 22026 was the the one that came up,so not sure if it is or not
Kind Regards
Tez