Railway suggestions
#1
Railway suggestions
Similar to the Metro and bus threads and inspired by talk of the old lines at South Pelaw and Washington - a rail suggestions thread.
 
Paths and infrastructure may mean these can't be delivered. Then there is cost - but on a boring afternoon of office based admin, I have identified the following suggestions.
 
Lines to be re-opened or converted to passenger use:
* Barley Mow to Leamside Line at Washington
* Leamside Line between Ferryhill/Hart and Pelaw
* B&T Line upto Ashington
* Stillington line between Ferryhill and Norton
 
New stations located at:
* Barley Mow. Ideal location on the county border, located near housing and key employment locations. Mainline and local services can call here on split level platforms. Slow lines to be reinstated on ECML.
* Fencehouses. On site of old station
* Penshaw. On site of old pop factory
* Washington South. Old station site
* Washington North. New P&R site close to Nissan/A1231
* Durham P&R.
* Stockton Parkway. Located on the 'triangle' south of Stockton. Platforms on each side, similar to Shipley. One side of the station would need to be a walk away from the other two – or, the track line is adapted
* Norton Parkway. Located on the 'triangle' north of Stockton. Platforms on each side, similar to Shipley. (This would mean that a whole estate of new houses would need to be demolished).
* Stillington
* Ferryhill. Slow lines reinstated with access to both Stillington and Leamside Lines.
* Peterlee
* All B&T stations as per proposals.
 
Routes:
·        Barley Mow – Leamside Line – Pelaw – Heworth – Newcastle – Metrocentre (1tp2h)
·        Darlington – all stations to Stockton Parkway – Stockton – Norton Parkway – Stillington – Ferryhill – Leamside Line - Pelaw – Heworth – Newcastle (1tp2h)
·        Ferryhill – Leamside Line - Pelaw – Heworth – Newcastle - Metrocentre (1tph)
·        Ferryhill – Stillington – Norton Parkway – Billingham – Seaton – Hartlepool (1tph)
·        Barley Mow – Newcastle – Manors and B&T to Ashington (1tp2h)
·        Metrocentre – Newcastle – Manors and B&T to Ashington (1tp2h)
·        All other routes/combinations to stay as they are, calling at new stations if required.
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#2
RE: Railway suggestions
Might as well extend beyond Barley Mow towards Pelton, Beamish, Stanley and Annfield Plain. Getting to Pelton would be relatively straightforward if using the old South Pelaw to Consett alignment. Beyond that, you'd need to seek a new route through High Handenhold and Beamish as well as the replacement of two bridges at Shield Row if the line were to follow its original route to the edge of Annfield Plain. Extending beyond Annfield Plain towards Consett would be tricky as roads and houses occupy much of the old trackbed.

#3
RE: Railway suggestions
(20 Aug 2015, 2:58 pm)MurdnunoC Wrote: Might as well extend beyond Barley Mow towards Pelton, Beamish, Stanley and Annfield Plain. Getting to Pelton would be relatively straightforward if using the old South Pelaw to Consett alignment. Beyond that, you'd need to seek a new route through High Handenhold and Beamish as well as the replacement of two bridges at Shield Row if the line were to follow its original route to the edge of Annfield Plain. Extending beyond Annfield Plain towards Consett would be tricky as roads and houses occupy much of the old trackbed.

I thought about that, but with the rebuilding of infrastructure and the alignment you mention, I didn't think it worth it.
Although as it is a fantasy, pie in the sky thread - why not.

The amount of space around Pelaw Jct, could mean a canny sized station could be built there.
Although, not sure the road infrastructure is suitable for a big P&R station.
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#4
RE: Railway suggestions
I have often thought about this...As you said it is pie in the sky, so I will keep it going, my suggestions

The idea that makes sense to me is to
1. Re-open the Leamside Line, and use the Stillington Line, would be good for Nissan, and also use it for Frieght Movements between Tyne Dock and Stockton and Northallerton, take some of the frieght off the ECML and it may free up space on an already crowded line...For passengers, sure I read somewhere years ago The Leamside could used for TPX Services

2. Refurbish the Curve at Brockley Whins with Metros going between Sunderland and South Shields and as an alternate oute from South Shields-Pelaw via Fellgate

3. Extend the track from South Hylton up to the Leamside, convert the Northern Section to Metro and run a Circular Service from Park Lane-Leamside Line sand back on the DCL

#5
RE: Railway suggestions
Digging up an old thread based purely on discussion in the SNE thread regarding the TVCA DRT scheme. 

I wonder if re-opening the Boulby line as far as Loftus would allow the DRT to reach its potential.

Appreciate it is an expensive way of allowing it to reach its potential, but I do think it would help in not only reinvigorating East Cleveland and also assist with the pressures on the A174.
The new(ish) housing in Skelton and the plans for housing across East Cleveland, along with the retail developments in Skelton would suggest that the existing road infrastructure is going to struggle in years to come. It can be pretty bad as it stands.

New stations would be built in a Parkway style, with parking and interchange facilities available for both commercial services and the DRT scheme. 

* Skelton (near the roundabout at the top of Saltburn Lane/A174).
* to the south of Pheasants Fields Lane at Skelton Ind Est. 
* to the west of East Cleveland Hospital. 
* between Liverton Mines and Loftus. 

Obviously there would need to be improvements made to track and signalling and the Boulby stuff would need to be taken in to account too. 

Without looking at RTT, I'd not know how long the trip between Saltburn and Loftus would be, but I'd imagine 30mins approx. 
This, coupled with the existing journey time between Saltburn and Boro, should make the trip faster than the bus and has the potential to make it cheaper than the car - when parking is taken in to account in Middlesbrough Town centre as an example.
'Illegitimis non carborundum'

#6
RE: Railway suggestions
(09 Dec 2019, 10:51 pm)Andreos1 Wrote: Digging up an old thread based purely on discussion in the SNE thread regarding the TVCA DRT scheme. 

I wonder if re-opening the Boulby line as far as Loftus would allow the DRT to reach its potential.

Appreciate it is an expensive way of allowing it to reach its potential, but I do think it would help in not only reinvigorating East Cleveland and also assist with the pressures on the A174.
The new(ish) housing in Skelton and the plans for housing across East Cleveland, along with the retail developments in Skelton would suggest that the existing road infrastructure is going to struggle in years to come. It can be pretty bad as it stands.

New stations would be built in a Parkway style, with parking and interchange facilities available for both commercial services and the DRT scheme. 

* Skelton (near the roundabout at the top of Saltburn Lane/A174).
* to the south of Pheasants Fields Lane at Skelton Ind Est. 
* to the west of East Cleveland Hospital. 
* between Liverton Mines and Loftus. 

Obviously there would need to be improvements made to track and signalling and the Boulby stuff would need to be taken in to account too. 

Without looking at RTT, I'd not know how long the trip between Saltburn and Loftus would be, but I'd imagine 30mins approx. 
This, coupled with the existing journey time between Saltburn and Boro, should make the trip faster than the bus and has the potential to make it cheaper than the car - when parking is taken in to account in Middlesbrough Town centre as an example.
Would be nice to see the railway extended to Whitby from Cleveland...



#7
RE: Railway suggestions
(09 Dec 2019, 10:51 pm)Andreos1 Wrote: Digging up an old thread based purely on discussion in the SNE thread regarding the TVCA DRT scheme. 

I wonder if re-opening the Boulby line as far as Loftus would allow the DRT to reach its potential.

Appreciate it is an expensive way of allowing it to reach its potential, but I do think it would help in not only reinvigorating East Cleveland and also assist with the pressures on the A174.
The new(ish) housing in Skelton and the plans for housing across East Cleveland, along with the retail developments in Skelton would suggest that the existing road infrastructure is going to struggle in years to come. It can be pretty bad as it stands.

New stations would be built in a Parkway style, with parking and interchange facilities available for both commercial services and the DRT scheme. 

* Skelton (near the roundabout at the top of Saltburn Lane/A174).
* to the south of Pheasants Fields Lane at Skelton Ind Est. 
* to the west of East Cleveland Hospital. 
* between Liverton Mines and Loftus. 

Obviously there would need to be improvements made to track and signalling and the Boulby stuff would need to be taken in to account too. 

Without looking at RTT, I'd not know how long the trip between Saltburn and Loftus would be, but I'd imagine 30mins approx. 
This, coupled with the existing journey time between Saltburn and Boro, should make the trip faster than the bus and has the potential to make it cheaper than the car - when parking is taken in to account in Middlesbrough Town centre as an example.

https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teess...n-17825341

Has someone been looking at these ideas?!
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