Aircraft Incidents

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(01 Nov 2015, 10:40 am)NK53 TKT Wrote: Yes
But no offence to anyone.
According to previous investigations the Russians will lie and Egypt will blame Russia

It is one of there own this time, not like, say, MH17, cant see them lying, not to there own people, if there at fault, they will just not tell anybody.

There now saying Pilot Error has been ruled out, and it apparantly has to be something external, Terrorism has not been ruled out yet
It is unfortunately quite ironic if it has been shot down - especially following events and alleged reasons apportioned to MH17 coming down.

If it has been taken down by ISIS, I can't see the Russians going down the same diplomatic route as the rest of the world did with MH17.
(02 Nov 2015, 11:49 am)MrFozz Wrote: It is one of there own this time, not like, say, MH17, cant see them lying, not to there own people, if there at fault, they will just not tell anybody.

There now saying Pilot Error has been ruled out, and it apparantly has to be something external, Terrorism has not been ruled out yet

According to the BBC, it was an airline official that suggested that it was "due to an external influence."

However, the Government stance is that it's, "premature to speculate" and, "this kind of talk is not based on any facts."

Even if it was one of their own, you would be surprised the spin the Russian Authorities can put on anything. 

At the end of the day, the only time we will properly know what's happened is when the black boxes have been decoded and analysed. 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34697416
(02 Nov 2015, 5:11 pm)8222 Wrote: According to the BBC, it was an airline official that suggested that it was "due to an external influence."

However, the Government stance is that it's, "premature to speculate" and, "this kind of talk is not based on any facts."

Even if it was one of their own, you would be surprised the spin the Russian Authorities can put on anything. 

At the end of the day, the only time we will properly know what's happened is when the black boxes have been decoded and analysed. 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34697416

I am just going on what I have heard, of course at the moment there is and will be a lof speculation on what happened.

A few front pages seem to be reporting it was shot down by so called IS...

Out of interest, has the Black Box(es) been discovered???
(02 Nov 2015, 5:20 pm)MrFozz Wrote: I am just going on what I have heard, of course at the moment there is and will be a lof speculation on what happened.

A few front pages seem to be reporting it was shot down by so called IS...

Out of interest, has the Black Box(es) been discovered???

They've been found and are being analysed.
(02 Nov 2015, 5:26 pm)8222 Wrote: They've been found and are being analysed.
Not being an aviation expert or anything, how many black boxes is there on an Aeroplane and how long does it take to analyse them...

Lets say for a mimute? it is discovered to be a so called IS shootdown, could be similar questions be asked along the lines of MH17 i.e. Why did it go Flying over a place that is known to have a terrorist element in tne area...
(02 Nov 2015, 5:33 pm)MrFozz Wrote: Not being an aviation expert or anything, how many black boxes is there on an Aeroplane and how long does it take to analyse them...

Lets say for a mimute? it is discovered to be a so called IS shootdown, could be similar questions be asked along the lines of MH17 i.e. Why did it go Flying over a place that is known to have a terrorist element in tne area...
If ISIS is at fault I will rearrange my luxury upcoming Egyptian holiday.
A plane has two black boxes
(02 Nov 2015, 5:33 pm)MrFozz Wrote: Not being an aviation expert or anything, how many black boxes is there on an Aeroplane and how long does it take to analyse them...

Lets say for a mimute? it is discovered to be a so called IS shootdown, could be similar questions be asked along the lines of MH17 i.e. Why did it go Flying over a place that is known to have a terrorist element in tne area...

It usually consists of two parts: Flight Data Recorder and your Cockpit Voice Recorder.

At the end of the day, it's down to the airline where they fly (minus China where air routes are set - no matter how rough the chop maybe en route) so they calculate the risk. Some airlines are more risk averse than others, I guess, but at the end of the day, they won't knowingly put anyone in danger. Slightly different, I know, but I remember flying home from MEX on BA and them totally rerouting our flight to avoid some stormy weather out on the Mexican Gulf. It added a an hour onto our flight on the good old 744, but better safe than sorry. Interesting, that should it have been the case in China, you wouldn't be allowed to deviate.
At least 17 people are dead after a Russian-built cargo plane crashed shortly after take-off from an airport in South Sudan, according to local media and news agencies

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/11/04/world/...aStoryLink

Its from CNN (American News channel)
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Bali Airport Closed After Volcanic Eruption
Passengers wait for information on delayed and cancelled flights after a volcanic eruption on Lombok Island.

http://news.sky.com/story/1581458/bali-a...c-eruption
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(03 Nov 2015, 9:04 pm)8222 Wrote: It usually consists of two parts: Flight Data Recorder and your Cockpit Voice Recorder.

At the end of the day, it's down to the airline where they fly (minus China where air routes are set - no matter how rough the chop maybe en route) so they calculate the risk. Some airlines are more risk averse than others, I guess, but at the end of the day, they won't knowingly put anyone in danger. Slightly different, I know, but I remember flying home from MEX on BA and them totally rerouting our flight to avoid some stormy weather out on the Mexican Gulf. It added a an hour onto our flight on the good old 744, but better safe than sorry. Interesting, that should it have been the case in China, you wouldn't be allowed to deviate.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34724604
Egypt flights cancelled in terror alert

http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/local...-1-7553549
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(04 Nov 2015, 10:26 pm)Michael Wrote: Egypt flights cancelled in terror alert

http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/local...-1-7553549

:s I am due to fly to Egypt in not so long a time.
It may be Malta instead Sad
(03 Nov 2015, 9:04 pm)8222 Wrote: It usually consists of two parts: Flight Data Recorder and your Cockpit Voice Recorder.

At the end of the day, it's down to the airline where they fly (minus China where air routes are set - no matter how rough the chop maybe en route) so they calculate the risk. Some airlines are more risk averse than others, I guess, but at the end of the day, they won't knowingly put anyone in danger. Slightly different, I know, but I remember flying home from MEX on BA and them totally rerouting our flight to avoid some stormy weather out on the Mexican Gulf. It added a an hour onto our flight on the good old 744, but better safe than sorry. Interesting, that should it have been the case in China, you wouldn't be allowed to deviate.
As the days go on, it is looking more likely that this was an act of terrorism
I forgot to say a Tara Air Twin Otter has crashed at Jomsom in Nepal, I complained to sky news because they put a picture on their website saying: 'This is a Twin Otter like the one that crashed' When in fact the image is a Dornier 228
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35726583

Leading on from the terrible Shoreham Airshow disaster last year, the CAA are wanting much tougher safety measures.
It would look like some airshows may not be taking place - especially the smaller ones, possibly?
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Ethiopian really aren't having much luck with their 787s:

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums...n/6642416/
(05 Mar 2016, 2:35 pm)8222 Wrote: Ethiopian really aren't having much luck with their 787s:

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums...n/6642416/
Nope, that IS unlucky
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/...40691.html

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(19 Mar 2016, 8:55 am)8222 Wrote: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/...40691.html

flydubai 737-800 crashed on approach to Rostov on Don. RIP.

I predict human error, he should've diverted