(15 Jan 2020, 11:12 am)Dan wrote [ -> ]It can’t be retrofitted to the bulkhead, so this is probably the best place (other than perhaps at the top of the stairs like the Cobalt B9s).
It takes up next to no room so I don’t think this is an issue.
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I guess either way it helps passengers and boice but guessing its not programmed because it wasn't on , in another thought with the drifters having next stops on screen below stopping sign wouldnt it make sense to do this to Prince Bishops, Red kites etc.
(15 Jan 2020, 12:16 pm)Citaro5326 wrote [ -> ]I guess either way it helps passengers and boice but guessing its not programmed because it wasn't on, in another thought with the drifters having next stops on screen below stopping sign wouldnt it make sense to do this to Prince Bishops, Red kites etc.
I think the issue is still getting resolve by Hanover as it's not working on any of the X30 (and a few other services as well)
That's how Arriva do it on the Streetlites as well. I always thought it strange that GNE would go with the LED displays over the LCD, but the LED displays are way more readable from the back of the bus, especially when it's sunny as that panel is very glossy
(15 Jan 2020, 12:16 pm)Citaro5326 wrote [ -> ]I guess either way it helps passengers and boice but guessing its not programmed because it wasn't on , in another thought with the drifters having next stops on screen below stopping sign wouldnt it make sense to do this to Prince Bishops, Red kites etc.
The Prince Bishops and Red Kites don’t have screens behind the perspex on back of drivers cab - nothing is there, as they were specified with LEDs rather than TFTs.
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(15 Jan 2020, 3:41 pm)Dan wrote [ -> ]The Prince Bishops and Red Kites don’t have screens behind the perspex on back of drivers cab - nothing is there, as they were specified with LEDs rather than TFTs.
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Was it a cost saving measure to go with LEDs over the LCD, or was it because the LED displays (in my opinion) are easier to see?
Or another reason entirely
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(15 Jan 2020, 4:20 pm)streetdeckfan wrote [ -> ]Was it a cost saving measure to go with LEDs over the LCD, or was it because the LED displays (in my opinion) are easier to see?
Or another reason entirely
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Bit of both, plus ease of programming.
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(15 Jan 2020, 4:27 pm)Dan wrote [ -> ]Bit of both, plus ease of programming.
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I suppose text is a lot easier than graphics.
With the LCDs, is each stop its own image, or is it a static image with text superimposed on it?
Or is it just a PowerPoint presentation
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(15 Jan 2020, 4:30 pm)streetdeckfan wrote [ -> ]I suppose text is a lot easier than graphics.
With the LCDs, is each stop its own image, or is it a static image with text superimposed on it?
Or is it just a PowerPoint presentation
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Older kit is literally just a PowerPoint presentation.
The new gear is all template based - so you have a background image, and you place boxes on the template for route number, terminus, date/time, stop details plus any static text you want to include. So there’s not a massive difference between the two types now that Hanover have developed this.
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6334 seen in Dunston this afternoon Bus times shows it worked the 894N
(15 Jan 2020, 10:01 pm)streetdeckfan wrote [ -> ]There's only so many designs you can do!
...when you only have a ruler and little imagination?
Clearly.
(15 Jan 2020, 10:07 pm)ne14ne1 wrote [ -> ]...when you only have a ruler and little imagination?
Clearly.
Let's see your designs then!
(15 Jan 2020, 9:48 pm)ne14ne1 wrote [ -> ]Does 'Best Impressions' only have a few different livery templates that it flogs to every bus company, or just lazy designers?
This could be a GNE route.... https://twitter.com/McKennaBrothers/stat...65/photo/2
And check this out.... X-Lines template just applied a little further forward?... https://twitter.com/benwakerley/status/1...56/photo/3
#CreatingRepetition
"Best Impressions is the leading company when it comes to bus design with much new and innovation in the pipeline which is why we always go to them..." same guff used over and over again when anybody takes the mick of them.
Oh and that First Omnicity linked above, pretty much the same here with the split in a different place:
https://flic.kr/p/PeJcuH - new Go North West livery is pretty similar too:
https://flic.kr/p/2hZMfW1
And then in the same area there's this Cross Pennine style livery:
https://flic.kr/p/2i3trMm - when I made said comparison someone popped up and stated BI are innovative etc
(15 Jan 2020, 10:29 pm)Jimmi wrote [ -> ]"Best Impressions is the leading company when it comes to bus design with much new and innovation in the pipeline which is why we always go to them..." same guff used over and over again when anybody takes the mick of them.
Oh and that First Omnicity linked above, pretty much the same here with the split in a different place: https://flic.kr/p/PeJcuH - new Go North West livery is pretty similar too: https://flic.kr/p/2hZMfW1
And then in the same area there's this Cross Pennine style livery: https://flic.kr/p/2i3trMm - when I made said comparison someone popped up and stated BI are innovative etc
I'm not defending them, but at the end of the day does it really matter?
There's only so many ways that you can split up colours on the side of a bus.
Swoops were all the rage, now it's straight lines.
At that point, do you go horizontal, vertical or diagonal, forwards or backwards, at the front or the back?
What do you use to break up the colours? Do you use one solid line, or do you break it up with smaller dashes of colour, sort of 'feathering' the colours?
Do you use contrasting colours, or similar shades?
Just because they're using the same template, doesn't mean it's a 5 minute job.
(15 Jan 2020, 11:00 pm)streetdeckfan wrote [ -> ]I'm not defending them, but at the end of the day does it really matter?
There's only so many ways that you can split up colours on the side of a bus.
Swoops were all the rage, now it's straight lines.
At that point, do you go horizontal, vertical or diagonal, forwards or backwards, at the front or the back?
What do you use to break up the colours? Do you use one solid line, or do you break it up with smaller dashes of colour, sort of 'feathering' the colours?
Do you use contrasting colours, or similar shades?
Just because they're using the same template, doesn't mean it's a 5 minute job.
No it doesn’t really matter. Passengers don’t care and 99% of people wouldn’t know the livery is pretty much a copy from elsewhere.
i just find it quite funny on twitter seeing several different bus companies praising them for their newly designed liveries.
My thoughts usually include: ‘When it comes to designing a new livery do BI simply click the fill tool and change the colours on one of their few templates and say Ta-Da!’, or ‘why do these bus companies pay BI to design that - surely after looking at a few examples of their work you could’ve easily done it yourself’, and finally, ‘when the bus companies are shown their new livery do they never say “well that just looks like X, Y & Z’s livery, we wanted our own identity”’.
I also don’t get why the route name/brand often doesn't stand out against its background. Eg the ‘Green’ in Green Arrow doesn’t contrast with its background very well.
It was the same with the X in Xlines at first on the Solo minibuses. It had to be altered.
And didn’t the first Cobalt & Coast branded bus have to have its ‘Cobalt’ lettering changed?
I know colours often look different printed to on screen, but when you want something to stand out, why think let’s have the word ‘Green’ printed in green on a green background.
A relative is a graphic designer and when I mention these things or show her she usually twists her face up in confusion too.
Im not a graphic designer or marketing expert but I like to think I have an eye for design, and sometimes I just don’t see the logic.
It was Beacon who designed the most up-to-date Green Arrow/Little Coasters/C&C liveries. Bit unfair to criticise BI for those.
All they’ve done GNE wise so far is Xlines and Toon Tour.
(16 Jan 2020, 7:26 am)S813 FVK wrote [ -> ]It was Beacon who designed the most up-to-date Green Arrow/Little Coasters/C&C liveries. Bit unfair to criticise BI for those.
All they’ve done GNE wise so far is Xlines and Toon Tour.
Oh okay I didn’t realise two different design companies had been used.
But I take it Beacon had to use BI’s base template plus GNE roadstripe to keep the house style the same?
Anyone noticed 5296 sounding different to the other citaros. Hasn’t got a different engine or exhaust has it?
5369s been towed out deptford today for leeds , a driver said so guessing new engine
With the X1 going E400s, I wonder if they'll still spec the low height version they have for the X30, or whether they'll go for the same height as 6337.
I'm very much hoping for the latter as speccing a low height bus where it's not needed is just bad for the passenger experience