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RE: 24th March 2024 Changes - Coastliner700 - 18 Feb 2024

(15 Feb 2024, 10:13 pm)DaveFromUpNorth wrote If GNE has won the 342 contract then they have won the 41A contract as it interworks andnis part of the contract according to FOI

I hope not! There streetlites are forever breaking down


RE: 24th March 2024 Changes - Ambassador - 24 Feb 2024

X39 changes,

Morning journeys retimed to a few minutes earlier.
16.40 journey restored in the afternoon which I guess means a PVR increase to 2


RE: 24th March 2024 Changes - Aaron21 - 25 Feb 2024

What I can gather from the gne changes

352 retimed 4 minutes later
353 retimed 4 minutes later
355 retimed 5 minutes later and 1 more evening journey added
354 retimed 9 minutes later and retimed last journey 15 minutes later (no evening journey added)


RE: 24th March 2024 Changes - L469 YVK - 25 Feb 2024

On a positive note...quite pleasing to see that the 11.45pm 309 has been kept. Have actually seen quite a few people stay on on to Preston Grange, Foxhunters and Whitley Bay. Quite a few people use it for West Allotment (getting off at Cobalt) and also Shiremoor / New York Road.

Very popular for NUFC evening kick offs too!

A bit surprised given the last 308 being pushed back to 11.25pm that it wasn't changed back to a 307 (was 310) to Norham Road.

But proof that the 11.40pm 308 was missed when withdrawn although wasn't logistically feasible for Arriva to keep it.


RE: 24th March 2024 Changes - OrangeArrow49 - 26 Feb 2024

Apparently the 684 will run on Sundays from 24th March?

Interesting to see if GNE have been awarded the 317 and 342/41A and GCT the 335, 351 and 359. Any clues on the evening/Sunday 54?


RE: 24th March 2024 Changes - V514DFT - 26 Feb 2024

(26 Feb 2024, 1:50 pm)OrangeArrow49 wrote Apparently the 684 will run on Sundays from 24th March?

Interesting to see if GNE have been awarded the 317 and 342/41A and GCT the 335, 351 and 359. Any clues on the evening/Sunday 54?
Are they allowed to change the route of the 317, be interesting if it stays the same or if it'll revert to its days of the 17 or the days of the 11


RE: 24th March 2024 Changes - Ambassador - 26 Feb 2024

(26 Feb 2024, 1:50 pm)OrangeArrow49 wrote Apparently the 684 will run on Sundays from 24th March?

Interesting to see if GNE have been awarded the 317 and 342/41A and GCT the 335, 351 and 359. Any clues on the evening/Sunday 54?

Runs every 2 hours. First departure Hexham 8.06 (last dep ex Hexham is 18.06)

From Newcastle first departure is 9.21 (last dep ex Newcastle is 19.21)


RE: 24th March 2024 Changes - OrangeArrow49 - 26 Feb 2024

(26 Feb 2024, 3:02 pm)Ambassador wrote Runs every 2 hours. First departure Hexham 8.06 (last dep ex Hexham is 18.06)

From Newcastle first departure is 9.21 (last dep ex Newcastle is 19.21)

It was included by mistake in the 28th January changes. Hopefully it actually happens next month, and lasts for a while. Every 2 hours is strange. Good to see it running on Sundays anyway, it makes sense with the 685 running.


RE: 24th March 2024 Changes - Coastliner700 - 26 Feb 2024

(26 Feb 2024, 2:57 pm)V514DFT wrote Are they allowed to change the route of the 317, be interesting if it stays the same or if it'll revert to its days of the 17 or the days of the 11

Think it’s ironic that they ditched it because it wasn’t making money then bid for a contract to run the same bus! Same as the 342 in part. It’s possible it could inter work for 342 if they have indeed got both. Not great move for me 342 is ran well as it is


RE: 24th March 2024 Changes - V514DFT - 26 Feb 2024

(26 Feb 2024, 3:43 pm)Coastliner700 wrote Think it’s ironic that they ditched it because it wasn’t making money then bid for a contract to run the same bus! Same as the 342 in part. It’s possible it could inter work for 342 if they have indeed got both. Not great move for me 342 is ran well as it is
Exactly what i thought, thing is this version of the 317 is a mis mash of 3 of their previous services, the 11(17/17A), 40 (41A)/41, remembering the 40/41 was re-routed to replace the 17 in the Rosehill/Holy Cross area


RE: 24th March 2024 Changes - Coastliner700 - 26 Feb 2024

(26 Feb 2024, 4:34 pm)V514DFT wrote Exactly what i thought, thing is this version of the 317 is a mis mash of 3 of their previous services, the 11(17/17A), 40 (41A)/41, remembering the 40/41 was re-routed to replace the 17 in the Rosehill/Holy Cross area

You could even argue there constant changes were the reason it needed to end up being unecconimcal and allowed them to withdraw it. The same as the 42A which is currently 342 and could end up run by them again. They should be prevented from bidding giving their history with the route. Almost like the withdrew it in hope Nexus would come running and shower them with cash. Arriva were very good at that in the late 2000s


RE: 24th March 2024 Changes - Thomas12 - 27 Feb 2024

(26 Feb 2024, 3:43 pm)Coastliner700 wrote Think it’s ironic that they ditched it because it wasn’t making money then bid for a contract to run the same bus! Same as the 342 in part. It’s possible it could inter work for 342 if they have indeed got both. Not great move for me 342 is ran well as it is

Go North East haven’t won the 342, only the 317


RE: 24th March 2024 Changes - OrangeArrow49 - 27 Feb 2024

(27 Feb 2024, 12:30 pm)Thomas12 wrote Go North East haven’t won the 342, only the 317

Who has won the 342? GCT again?


RE: 24th March 2024 Changes - Aaron21 - 27 Feb 2024

(27 Feb 2024, 12:36 pm)OrangeArrow49 wrote Who has won the 342? GCT again?

No way they can run the 342 alongside running the 351/335/359


RE: 24th March 2024 Changes - Thomas12 - 27 Feb 2024

(27 Feb 2024, 12:36 pm)OrangeArrow49 wrote Who has won the 342? GCT again?

Yeah, along with the 19, X46 and 335/351/359.


RE: 24th March 2024 Changes - OrangeArrow49 - 27 Feb 2024

(27 Feb 2024, 12:39 pm)Aaron21 wrote No way they can run the 342 alongside running the 351/335/359

Ah yeah, forgot about that. Can't see it being Arriva, but it could be as they've got services in Kingston Park, Hazlerigg and Seaton Burn.

Thought GNE had won the 342. Surprised they won the 317.

(27 Feb 2024, 12:42 pm)Thomas12 wrote Yeah, along with the 19, X46 and 335/351/359.

Thanks. Confirmed? I actually thought Nexus might scrap the X46 with the 35/Q3 changes, but I know it does have some unique links.


RE: 24th March 2024 Changes - Thomas12 - 27 Feb 2024

(27 Feb 2024, 12:43 pm)OrangeArrow49 wrote Ah yeah, forgot about that. Can't see it being Arriva, but it could be as they've got services in Kingston Park, Hazlerigg and Seaton Burn.

Thought GNE had won the 342. Surprised they won the 317.


Thanks. Confirmed? I actually thought Nexus might scrap the X46 with the 35/Q3 changes, but I know it does have some unique links.

Yeah, Go North East has also won a X78 service but not sure what this is, possibly evening journeys on the Stagecoach Newcastle to Darras Hall as I know they’re secured at the minute.


RE: 24th March 2024 Changes - OrangeArrow49 - 27 Feb 2024

(27 Feb 2024, 12:49 pm)Thomas12 wrote Yeah, Go North East has also won a X78 service but not sure what this is, possibly evening journeys on the Stagecoach Newcastle to Darras Hall as I know they’re secured at the minute.

Thank you. Where do you get the info from? 

Ah, interesting on the X78. Could be the Newcastle to Darras Hall service. I know some of the stuff is secured.


RE: 24th March 2024 Changes - Michael - 28 Feb 2024

The VOSA Changes have appeared on bustimes

https://bustimes.org/licences/PB0003954

Looks like all just a change for timings


RE: 24th March 2024 Changes - Aaron21 - 28 Feb 2024

(28 Feb 2024, 2:13 pm)Michael wrote The VOSA Changes have appeared on bustimes

https://bustimes.org/licences/PB0003954

Looks like all just a change for timings

10/10A/10B/X66 revised route is serving the Coach Park till 10am in the morning if travelline is to be believed


RE: 24th March 2024 Changes - Andreos1 - 28 Feb 2024

(28 Feb 2024, 2:45 pm)Aaron21 wrote 10/10A/10B/X66 revised route is serving the Coach Park till 10am in the morning if travelline is to be believed

Presumably, that's the Tyne Bridge funding being put to use.


RE: 24th March 2024 Changes - RedKite - 28 Feb 2024

(26 Feb 2024, 1:50 pm)OrangeArrow49 wrote Apparently the 684 will run on Sundays from 24th March?

Interesting to see if GNE have been awarded the 317 and 342/41A and GCT the 335, 351 and 359. Any clues on the evening/Sunday 54?

GoNE have secured services 1, 317, X78
GCT have secured services 19, 41A, 342, 335, 351, 355, X46
Stagecoach have secured services 18\553, 32\32A, 35, 54
Phoenix have W1, W2

https://www.find-tender.service.gov.uk/Notice/006236-2024


RE: 24th March 2024 Changes - deanmachine - 29 Feb 2024

(28 Feb 2024, 7:22 pm)Andreos1 wrote Presumably, that's the Tyne Bridge funding being put to use.

Too much of a stretch for people to cross the bridge?


RE: 24th March 2024 Changes - DeltaMan - 29 Feb 2024

(28 Feb 2024, 11:09 pm)RedKite wrote GoNE have secured services 1, 317, X78
GCT have secured services 19, 41A, 342, 335, 351, 355, X46
Stagecoach have secured services 18\553, 32\32A, 35, 54
Phoenix have W1, W2

https://www.find-tender.service.gov.uk/Notice/006236-2024

Howling at GCT winning the 335/351/359.


RE: 24th March 2024 Changes - gc802002 - 29 Feb 2024

GCT winning the 335/351/359. - Is this the whole service or just certain trips?


RE: 24th March 2024 Changes - Thomas12 - 29 Feb 2024

(29 Feb 2024, 8:25 am)gc802002 wrote GCT winning the 335/351/359. - Is this the whole service or just certain trips?

The whole service


RE: 24th March 2024 Changes - V514DFT - 29 Feb 2024

(29 Feb 2024, 8:00 am)DeltaMan wrote Howling at GCT winning the 335/351/359.
I give it a week until buses stop showing up


RE: 24th March 2024 Changes - Aaron21 - 29 Feb 2024

(29 Feb 2024, 9:18 am)V514DFT wrote I give it a week until buses stop showing up

I'd love to know where in the world there gets 5 extra buses to run them and the drivers. If they lost the 342/19 it would have free up 6 buses but that doesn't seem to be the case


RE: 24th March 2024 Changes - Aaron21 - 29 Feb 2024

(28 Feb 2024, 11:09 pm)RedKite wrote GoNE have secured services 1, 317, X78
GCT have secured services 19, 41A, 342, 335, 351, 355, X46
Stagecoach have secured services 18\553, 32\32A, 35, 54
Phoenix have W1, W2

https://www.find-tender.service.gov.uk/Notice/006236-2024

Hang on a minute 

Who in the hell has the 653 then. Who's running it


RE: 24th March 2024 Changes - Coastliner700 - 29 Feb 2024

(29 Feb 2024, 8:25 am)gc802002 wrote GCT winning the 335/351/359. - Is this the whole service or just certain trips?

Could they back out ? Or is it too late now!