what if........ GNE ordered 14 New Routemasters for the 21, +2 to replace the B7s  and the B5s move to the 20/20A and the B7s move to a spare role replacing 2 more tridents or B7s

I think New routmasters would cope very well with the 21, not sure about the fast section to Durham from Chester though
anyone fancy doing 55 in a NBFL?!
Its something different I guess!         I wonder what it would look like in the Angel colours?

(07 Jun 2015, 10:04 am)South Tyne Lad wrote what if........ GNE ordered 14 New Routemasters for the 21, +2 to replace the B7s  and the B5s move to the 20/20A and the B7s move to a spare role replacing 2 more tridents or B7s

I think New routmasters would cope very well with the 21, not sure about the fast section to Durham from Chester though
anyone fancy doing 55 in a NBFL?!
Its something different I guess!         I wonder what it would look like in the Angel colours?

I reckon at over 350k a bus, I think we all know the answer to that one!

(07 Jun 2015, 10:23 am)citaro5284 wrote I reckon at over 350k a bus, I think we all know the answer to that one!

hahaha they are really expensive, something needs to move to the prince bishops though, the solars cant even move off the stands in shields never mind climb up the hill in Houghton!

Quick transfer maybe?  ( trying hard not to mention the red arrows  or 6001-6007 ) 

(07 Jun 2015, 10:04 am)South Tyne Lad wrote what if........ GNE ordered 14 New Routemasters for the 21, +2 to replace the B7s  and the B5s move to the 20/20A and the B7s move to a spare role replacing 2 more tridents or B7s

I think New routmasters would cope very well with the 21, not sure about the fast section to Durham from Chester though
anyone fancy doing 55 in a NBFL?!
Its something different I guess!         I wonder what it would look like in the Angel colours?

If anything happens to 6001-6007, they'll be straight to Crook for the Pronto, 6049  would act as a TTX spare allowing 6084 to go silver and the rest fufilling spare roles around the fleet.

It's not just that. It's over 350k for a bus that can't be used with the infrastructure up here.

I recall when the Vykings were on the 21, GNE had to put a lot of notices and guidance out around the use of dual door operation. It got quite confusing for passengers, because there were a number of stops along the route, that you'd be opening the rear doors onto railings or the glass front of a bus shelter. 

It'd be a nice thought to have such vehicles up here one day, but until the combined authority make a commitment to ensure the infrastructure is suitable, then I can't see the operators making a commitment on them.

(07 Jun 2015, 11:16 am)DaveyBowyer wrote If anything happens to 6001-6007, they'll be straight to Crook for the Pronto, 6049  would act as a TTX spare allowing 6084 to go silver and the rest fufilling spare roles around the fleet.

I'd laugh my ass off if that didn't happen. 

(07 Jun 2015, 11:46 am)aureolin wrote It's not just that. It's over 350k for a bus that can't be used with the infrastructure up here.

I recall when the Vykings were on the 21, GNE had to put a lot of notices and guidance out around the use of dual door operation. It got quite confusing for passengers, because there were a number of stops along the route, that you'd be opening the rear doors onto railings or the glass front of a bus shelter. 

It'd be a nice thought to have such vehicles up here one day, but until the combined authority make a commitment to ensure the infrastructure is suitable, then I can't see the operators making a commitment on them.

Its like when GNE wanted to put the ex London bendies on the 56... the route and area's wasn't suitable due to the roads being to small etc. 

(07 Jun 2015, 11:49 am)Michael wrote Its like when GNE wanted to put the ex London bendies on the 56... the route and area's wasn't suitable due to the roads being to small etc. 

They were never suitable for the 58 tbh! That's' when they managed to make their way on to the 58 mind...  

It was a nightmare at parts of Felling and Heworth, trying to navigate round tight corners, with idiots double parked too close to a junction. 

(07 Jun 2015, 11:59 am)aureolin wrote They were never suitable for the 58 tbh! That's' when they managed to make their way on to the 58 mind...  

It was a nightmare at parts of Felling and Heworth, trying to navigate round tight corners, with idiots double parked too close to a junction. 

Only route they're suitable to up here is the X66. 

Dark Pink Solo's!!!!!!

(08 Jun 2015, 7:31 pm)pdiddy wrote Dark Pink Solo's!!!!!!

???

(07 Jun 2015, 10:04 am)South Tyne Lad wrote what if........ GNE ordered 14 New Routemasters for the 21, +2 to replace the B7s  and the B5s move to the 20/20A and the B7s move to a spare role replacing 2 more tridents or B7s

I think New routmasters would cope very well with the 21, not sure about the fast section to Durham from Chester though
anyone fancy doing 55 in a NBFL?!
Its something different I guess!         I wonder what it would look like in the Angel colours?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/27974644@N...785479731/

(08 Jun 2015, 7:38 pm)Text wrote https://www.flickr.com/photos/27974644@N...785479731/

Looks horrible

How about.....
Washington service 88/A
9x Wright Streetlite Micro Hybrid +4 spare ( 3 for allocation to service 4 allowing extension to Newcastle Eldon Square 1 allocated 82/83/85/86 on weekdays X88 Saturday/Sunday
or 88/A emergency ) all can be fitted with Flyweel for added fuel efficiency

All have esteban high back seats, E leather ,Wifi, Usb, and Plugs and Next Stop Announcements for main services at Washington ( 88/A 4  X1/A )

Optare versas will transfer to services 82/83/85/86 with the solars dropping to a spare role, one or two mybe transfer out to replace older vehicles.

     maybe a new brand for the 82/83/85/86, let me know what you think.

I would suggest 30 Enviro 400MMCs

20 double decks for Prince Bishops (plus 2 red spares)
7 double decks for "Angel Express" (ex-Pronto) ( plus 1 red spare)

Solars off Prince Bishops to replace Renowns, including on Fab 57.

Maybe some Solo SRs for North Tyne Links and Tynedale Links.

(11 Jun 2015, 8:39 pm)South Tyne Lad wrote How about.....
Washington service 88/A
9x Wright Streetlite Micro Hybrid +4 spare ( 3 for allocation to service 4 allowing extension to Newcastle Eldon Square 1 allocated 82/83/85/86 on weekdays X88 Saturday/Sunday
or 88/A emergency ) all can be fitted with Flyweel for added fuel efficiency

All have esteban high back seats, E leather ,Wifi, Usb, and Plugs and Next Stop Announcements for main services at Washington ( 88/A 4  X1/A )

Optare versas will transfer to services 82/83/85/86 with the solars dropping to a spare role, one or two mybe transfer out to replace older vehicles.

     maybe a new brand for the 82/83/85/86, let me know what you think.

X88 wouldn't cope with streetlites

Theres no way that service 4 would be extended to Newcastle, passengers with network tickets would get the metro, others can transfer onto other GNE bus services to Gateshead or Newcastle. passengers on service 4 can get off at galleries and get service X1 or get off at concord and get service 56

Wright streetdeck for the X21!!!!

My Suggestions would be:

29 Scania/E400MMCs for Prince Bishops + 50/50A (+2 Spares for PB & 1 Spare for 50/A)

Solars replaced:
- x5 To Fab57
- x1 To replace the Cadet at Hexham
- x13 To 17/A & to replace Renowns from Percy Main
- the remaining Solar to remain at Deptford as a Spare

Scania`s Replaced to 28/A with solars off 28/A then replacing renowns/Cadets as Spares

15 Volvo B8RLE/Wright for Crusader (+2 Spare)
Citaros Replaced:
- x7 To Pronto X21 + 1 Spare
- x8 To 9 + 1 Spare

9 Optare Solos For North Tyne Links (+1 Spare)
MPDs Replaced to Washington for 82/82A/85/86 to convert them to full MPD routes

(19 Jun 2015, 6:41 pm)callum2015 wrote My Suggestions would be:

29 Scania/E400MMCs for Prince Bishops + 50/50A (+2 Spares for PB & 1 Spare for 50/A)

Solars replaced:
- x5 To Fab57
- x1 To replace the Cadet at Hexham
- x13 To 17/A & to replace Renowns from Percy Main
- the remaining Solar to remain at Deptford as a Spare

Scania`s Replaced to 28/A with solars off 28/A then replacing renowns/Cadets as Spares

15 Volvo B8RLE/Wright for Crusader (+2 Spare)
Citaros Replaced:
- x7 To Pronto X21 + 1 Spare
- x8 To 9 + 1 Spare

9 Optare Solos For North Tyne Links (+1 Spare)
MPDs Replaced to Washington for 82/82A/85/86 to convert them to full MPD routes

Citaro aren't big enough for the X21 otherwise we would of he'd them last year... but plans were changed and they went on the X7.

X21 will get new buses or cascaded deckers 

(19 Jun 2015, 6:45 pm)pdiddy wrote X21 will get new buses or cascaded deckers 

You hope.  

I believe that the South Tyne Optare Versa's will be replaced by StreetLite's with the Versa's going on 82/82A, Cadet's/Merit's on 85/86

I think,

Cruasder could get Volvo 7900h would be suited nicely.
Coaster could get E400MMC or Volvo wright streedecker's moving scania omnicity buses to Cruasder and transfering citraos to loop or to 20/A/X20.

For X21 they could get MetroDecker or Scania E400.

(19 Jun 2015, 7:33 pm)Panasonic44 wrote I think,

Cruasder could get Volvo 7900h would be suited nicely.
Coaster could get E400MMC or Volvo wright streedecker's moving scania omnicity buses to Cruasder and transfering citraos to loop or to 20/A/X20.

For X21 they could get MetroDecker or Scania E400.

Why would you put older vehicles on the 27, than what is currently in use on the service though.

(19 Jun 2015, 7:07 pm)LeeCalder wrote I believe that the South Tyne Optare Versa's will be replaced by StreetLite's with the Versa's going on 82/82A, Cadet's/Merit's on 85/86

Everything is getting replaced by StreetLites though...

(19 Jun 2015, 7:45 pm)Davie wrote Everything is getting replaced by StreetLites though...

At present, there are only 45 Wright Streetlites in the fleet, which comprises 714 vehicles. I think by the time ''everything'' has received these vehicles; buses will fly. 

(19 Jun 2015, 7:52 pm)R852 PRG wrote At present, there are only 45 Wright Streetlites in the fleet, which comprises 714 vehicles. I think by the time ''everything'' has received these vehicles; buses will fly. 

I was being Sarcastic 

(19 Jun 2015, 7:52 pm)R852 PRG wrote At present, there are only 45 Wright Streetlites in the fleet, which comprises 714 vehicles. I think by the time ''everything'' has received these vehicles; buses will fly. 

And the B10's long gone 

(19 Jun 2015, 7:54 pm)Davie wrote I was being Sarcastic 

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(19 Jun 2015, 7:43 pm)Malarkey wrote Why would you put older vehicles on the 27, than what is currently in use on the service though.

If they do then they can moved newer buses  current citraos to old routes and i didn't like citraos at all omnicitys are better.

(19 Jun 2015, 8:08 pm)Panasonic44 wrote If they do then they can moved newer buses  current citraos to old routes and i didn't like citraos at all omnicitys are better.

I would have to disagree, the Mercedes Citaros are a far more superior Vehicle in my opinion.