(28 Feb 2014, 4:20 pm)brianr wrote 35191 and 36472 on the E routes today.

Probs due to 27725 and 27736 being on X34's. Spare Enviro400 for Shields depot please...

22488 on 4s today opposed to the usual E200.
39729 on 4s also, whilst 32 is on 13s.

(01 Mar 2014, 9:46 am)Dan wrote 22488 on 4s today opposed to the usual E200.
39729 on 4s also, whilst 32 is on 13s.

How is 39729 rare on 4 it's always on that route or 23 route. 22488 shouldn't be on. Must have got lost on way to Stockton

(01 Mar 2014, 11:26 am)Acky81 wrote How is 39729 rare on 4 it's always on that route or 23 route. 22488 shouldn't be on. Must have got lost on way to Stockton

Because the 39xxx MAN E200s should be on services 18/19.
It's not rare because Sunderland have these allocations every day, but odd as it should not be allocated to 4s.

(01 Mar 2014, 11:30 am)Dan wrote Because the 39xxx MAN E200s should be on services 18/19.
It's not rare because Sunderland have these allocations every day, but odd as it should not be allocated to 4s.

18/19 really they normally get darts don't they like the 8 well what's left of them. Think these gas buses should be on all main routes not just 16/20

(01 Mar 2014, 12:08 pm)Acky81 wrote 18/19 really they normally get darts don't they like the 8 well what's left of them. Think these gas buses should be on all main routes not just 16/20

18/19 being a mixture last few days.

I would imagine the gas buses would be on different routes on a Sunday.. nothing confirmed yet, don't think, we will find that out tomorrow.


23 more to arriving in May for the 3 and 13 routes. =)

(01 Mar 2014, 12:08 pm)Acky81 wrote 18/19 really they normally get darts don't they like the 8 well what's left of them. Think these gas buses should be on all main routes not just 16/20

Again, down to Sunderland's poor allocations.

Two should be allocated to 8s and three should remain as reserve to cover for E200s.

There are at least two 36xxx E200s on 18/19 today and at least two 39xxx E200s.

(01 Mar 2014, 12:14 pm)Dan wrote Again, down to Sunderland's poor allocations.

Two should be allocated to 8s and three should remain as reserve to cover for E200s.

There are at least two 36xxx E200s on 18/19 today and at least two 39xxx E200s.

Getting as bad as go north east then??

E400 19154 on X47

(01 Mar 2014, 11:26 am)Acky81 wrote How is 39729 rare on 4 it's always on that route or 23 route. 22488 shouldn't be on. Must have got lost on way to Stockton

Who's to say that one is moving to Stockton? As I understand it, the majority of the transfers south are to be the ex-Hull batch (22727-36)

(01 Mar 2014, 6:43 pm)Kuyoyo wrote Who's to say that one is moving to Stockton? As I understand it, the majority of the transfers south are to be the ex-Hull batch (22727-36)

Didn't realise these worked at hull anyone got any pics from hull days

(02 Mar 2014, 6:28 pm)Acky81 wrote Didn't realise these worked at hull anyone got any pics from hull days

New to Hull, hence the T-OEF registrations (bar 22736, but that's another story as it were ) - Hull was (until last March) on the Cleveland Transit licence, hence their ALX300s had the same registrations as those new to Stockton (22656-65).

(02 Mar 2014, 7:43 pm)Kuyoyo wrote New to Hull, hence the T-OEF registrations (bar 22736, but that's another story as it were ) - Hull was (until last March) on the Cleveland Transit licence, hence their ALX300s had the same registrations as those new to Stockton (22656-65).

Any pics from hull days.? What the t-oef reg? How's it related to hull

(02 Mar 2014, 11:38 pm)Acky81 wrote Any pics from hull days.? What the t-oef reg? How's it related to hull

There's no photos from their days at Hull online. As for T-OEF, that registration is a Stockton area registration, at the time 22656-65/727-36 were being built, Stagecoach Hull was actually part of what is now Stagecoach North East, managed by Stockton depot (Cleveland Transit had purchased KHCT in the early 1990s and it didn't move to be managed by East Midlands until 2001).

As for 22736, at the start of its construction, it was down to be registered T736OEF and go to Hull, then part-way through it was revised to go to Stockton as our 666 and would have been registered T466MHN, when the plan reverted back however it was instead allocated the registration it carries today (T736FVN) as its original plate had already been surrendered.

(03 Mar 2014, 2:17 am)ADLEnviro wrote Official allocations are :-


3.....MAN ALX300......= 9
4.....ADL Enviro 200..=11
5/5A..Dennis Dart SLF = 3
8.....ADL Enviro 200..= 2
10/11.ADL Enviro 200..=10
12....MAN ALX300......= 4
13....MAN ALX300......=11
16....Scania GAS......=10
18/19.ADL Enviro 200..= 6
20....Scania GAS......= 5
23....ADL Enviro 200..= 2
23....MAN Enviro 200..= 6
Peak Vehicle Requirement = 79
Engineering spare = 10
Paint.....=1
Dock......=6
PSV prep..=2
Major VOR.=1
TOTAL FLEET ALLOCATION = 89

I know this (the fleet cards with these details are available on the public domain after a week or two of them being released), but that appears to be littered with mistakes - which makes me sound like a bit of an arse because it's an official document.

If Sunderland were to allocate Pointer 2 Darts on services 5/5A which I believe is partially secured as a Euro 5 contract between The Docks and the City Centre, there would be trouble with Nexus. The reality of the situation is that E200s are always allocated - I can't recall a Pointer 2 ever being allocated. I was told about an ALX300 being on the City Centre to Doxford Park stretch for half a run only just a few weeks ago, but was inevitably replaced.

Service 8 is allocated Pointer 2s and not Enviro 200s - at least most of the time. Lately the appearance of Enviro 200s has become more common, but perhaps this is linked to the Darts being found on anything and everything as of late.

Services 18/19 and 23 appear to be the wrong way round - the non-branded ADL examples are usually found on services 4 and 5/5A, the branded examples on service 23 and services 18/19 have a mixture of both MAN and ADL because all of the MAN examples are just thrown about everywhere. From personal observation, the MAN examples are certainly on services 18/19 a hell of a lot more than service 23 - so there's a problem regardless. I'm sure Michael can account for the amount of MAN vs ADL E200s he has seen on service 23 over the past few days?

Allocations have been poor since the arrival of the new ADL E200s which I cannot comprehend. There are a limited number of services which appear to have a set allocation (the ALX300 ones), but the others are seemingly allocated anything - as if there's no difference between a MAN and ADL E200 and a Pointer 2 Dart.

Go North East are called all sorts for their wrong allocations and while I agree customers aren't likely to notice as much with Stagecoach's wrong allocations as they're all in fleet livery (with a few exceptions), it just goes to show that allocations are clearly difficult to manage.

HI how many man alx 300 stagecoach on Teesside getting from stagecoach in Sunderland.

Any talking about stagecoach south shields seems to be a lot of chat about teeside and sunderland

(03 Mar 2014, 10:56 pm)speedwheels22 wrote Any talking about stagecoach south shields seems to be a lot of chat about teeside and sunderland

Probably because there's not a lot happening there at present...

(03 Mar 2014, 2:48 am)ADLEnviro wrote Two I know of are.
22728 http://www.flickr.com/photos/eybusman/4083481556/
22734 http://www.flickr.com/photos/51316822@N0...iNd-a8KPFq

Nice one

Is the rumour true that south shields are getting E400 deckers for E1 E2 E6 might be wrong ya never no

22488 on 4s.

How come we ended up with hull buses in Sunderland? Any one shed any light?

(04 Mar 2014, 8:18 am)Dan wrote 22488 on 4s.

Again

(04 Mar 2014, 10:05 am)Acky81 wrote How come we ended up with hull buses in Sunderland? Any one shed any light?

I believe that 22727-36 came in exchange for 14 Dart/ALX 200s, 33103-5/7-10/2-7 (R-KRG) and 33001 (R701DNJ, new to Stagecoach South and itself swapped with R119KRG after a fatal accident in the old Central Bus Station).

(04 Mar 2014, 8:18 am)Dan wrote 22488 on 4s.

As is 22489.

(04 Mar 2014, 3:45 pm)Dan wrote As is 22489.

And 22215! It was parked amongst the MANs withdrawn from Sunderland the other day.

22491 is also on the 4!

(04 Mar 2014, 4:57 pm)dans_bus_photos wrote 22491 is also on the 4!

Are there any ADL E200s on the 4 today? Hahah

(04 Mar 2014, 5:24 pm)Dan wrote Are there any ADL E200s on the 4 today? Hahah

Ive seen 36081,36083,36084,36962(i think it was) and 39727 on there too.

Olympian 16836 was out working the 36 this evening, heading to Park End in Stockton at 1725 (as such is now safely back in the depot).