(10 Dec 2014, 4:17 pm)Michael wrote Tbh, most of the services were gonna be the same allocations, its only the 33 and 38 allocations which isn't really confirmed. 

Question regarding the 39, i wonder if GNE will run this once again a night?, anyone have any info on this?

I like the idea of 33 38 and 39 branded as simplicity
The 61 should be something like miners mover or just simply red.
Funny how stagecoach 39 timetable disappears go north may get 39 evenings back

(10 Dec 2014, 8:11 pm)Acky81 wrote I like the idea of 33 38 and 39 branded as simplicity
The 61 should be something like miners mover or just simply red.
Funny how stagecoach 39 timetable disappears go north may get 39 evenings back

I agree they could do something better for the 61.

(09 Dec 2014, 11:34 am)Jimmi wrote PB0002400/419 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Houton Le Spring the Broadway and Heworth Metro given service number 4 effective from 01-Feb-2015. To amend Timetable.

PB0002400/420 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Birtley Town Centre and Heworth metro given service number 82/82A/83A effective from 01-Feb-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002400/477 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between CHESTER-LE-STREET, FRONT STREET and HOUGHTON LE-SPRING THE BROADWAY given service number 71/884/885/886/888 effective from 25-Jan-2015.

PB0002400/481 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Sunderland, Park Lane Interchange and Houghton Le Spring, The Broadway given service number 238/38/38C effective from 25-Jan-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002400/504 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between RICKLETON and CHESTER-LE-STREET,PARK VIEW NORTH LODGE SCHOOL given service number 884/885/886/887/888 effective from 25-Jan-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002400/556 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: SUNDERLAND FAWCETT STREET
Finish Point: ADMIRAL WAY/WILLIAM DOXFORD CENTRE
Via:
Service Number: 33
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 25-JAN-2015
Other Details: MONDAY TO SATURDAY (EXCEPT PUBLIC HOLIDAYS)

PB0002400/557 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: CONCORD BUS STATION
Finish Point: WASHINGTON STEPHENSON INDUSTRIAL ESTATE
Via:
Service Number: 982
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 01-FEB-2015
Other Details: Monday to Friday (Except public holidays)

PB0003954/221 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Newcastle and Metrocentre given service number 64/64A/95/96/96A effective from 25-Jan-2015. To amend Timetable.

PB0003954/222 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Newcastle and Blackhall Mill given service number 47 effective from 25-Jan-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0003954/296 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Winlation Bus Station and Gateshead Interchange given service number 49/49B/49C effective from 25-Jan-2015. To amend Timetable.

PB0003954/307 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Newcastle, Market Street and Newcastle, Market Street given service number 97/98/98A effective from 25-Jan-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0003954/351 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between South Shields, Market and Newcastle, Market Street given service number 27 effective from 25-Jan-2015. To amend Timetable.

PB0003954/357 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Wallsend, Metro and Wallsend, Metro given service number 40/41 effective from 25-Jan-2015. To amend Timetable.

PB0003954/380 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Blackhall Mill, Chopwell Road and Newcastle, Eldon Square Bus Station given service number 31/32 effective from 25-Jan-2015. To amend Timetable.

PB0003954/471 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Whitley Bay, Park Avenue and Cramlington, Manor Walks given service number 17/17A effective from 25-Jan-2015. To amend Timetable.

PB0003954/495 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Castleside, Church Street and Stanley Bus Station given service number V8 effective from 25-Jan-2015. To amend Route.

PB0003954/560 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Blackhall Mill, River View and Newcastle, Eldon Square Bus Station given service number 11 effective from 25-Jan-2015. To amend Timetable.

Service 97.
Peak time revised times, and evening buses run from Gateshead via Redheugh bridge to Clayton Street, then as normal back to Gateshead.

Service 98/98A.
Peak time revised times.

Services 49/49B & 49C.
Daytime journeys retimed, with running times reapportioned .
Peak time revised timetable.

Service 27.
Reduced frequency of every 12 mins, allowing more running time and recovery time.

Services 64/95/96
Revised peak times.

(12 Dec 2014, 2:49 am)park5354 wrote Service 97.
Peak time revised times, and evening buses run from Gateshead via Redheugh bridge to Clayton Street, then as normal back to Gateshead.

Service 98/98A.
Peak time revised times.

Services 49/49B & 49C.
Daytime journeys retimed, with running times reapportioned .
Peak time revised timetable.

Service 27.
Reduced frequency of every 12 mins, allowing more running time and recovery time.

Services 64/95/96
Revised peak times.

Cheers for the additional info on changes Park =)


Maybe introducing the 27 to a 12 min frequency is the best thing to do, also maybe its inline for new buses this year, 12 min frequency but bigger buses  

Just seen the 99 pass the hospital, carrying air, bet the drivers cant wait till it changes least then it might have some passengers on... so the driver isn't alone!

This was heading towards Silksworth...

(12 Dec 2014, 8:21 am)Michael wrote Just seen the 99 pass the hospital, carrying air, bet the drivers cant wait till it changes least then it might have some passengers on... so the driver isn't alone!

This was heading towards Silksworth...

Probably wouldn't be many passengers traveling to silksworth from hospital area this time in the morning.

Maybe the drivers wouldn't mind driving the bus with no passengers on as their still getting payed and not having passengers moaning at them and trying to change £20 notes for small value tickets.

(09 Dec 2014, 6:40 pm)Andreos1 wrote Yeah, Grasswell has the X1 from the main road and the 35/a from the Burnside Estate.

In the past, they had the 71.

Even before that GNE had the 194,535,536 and X62 along Grasswell, also TWOC had the 168 Sunderland to Grasswell then got extended to Houghton.

Aye, there was the 161 and 164 to Sunderland in years gone by too.
Was there a 162? Can't remember.

(13 Dec 2014, 10:46 am)Andreos1 wrote Aye, there was the 161 and 164 to Sunderland in years gone by too.
Was there a 162? Can't remember.

Yea, ok travel had the 158,159,160,161,162,163 round that area in the past.

I remember the 160 and 163.
New Lambton to Sunderland.
Ended up being Cadet workings until the services were withdrawn.
Redby ran one and GNE the other, in the mid/late 90's. Then GNE got them both.

They both missed Grasswell out though. One passing Shiney College and the other via Newbottle after coming through Fencehouses and Sedletch Road.

(13 Dec 2014, 10:56 am)Andreos1 wrote I remember the 160 and 163.
New Lambton to Sunderland.
Ended up being Cadet workings until the services were withdrawn.
Redby ran one and GNE the other, in the mid/late 90's. Then GNE got them both.

They both missed Grasswell out though. One passing Shiney College and the other via Newbottle after coming through Fencehouses and Sedletch Road.

Didn't both also serve north Sunderland? 

It's mad how area's have gone from loads of services to a few or none.... 

I think the 163 worked through to Heworth at one point.
Not sure which way it went.

There were 'express' variations of the via Hetton 16x services, that went to Newcastle via Newcastle Road.

Haha,I won't state my thoughts on all those services which were withdrawn or merged into one...

The ok travel services were from the 90's, yea loads of services in those days, depots closures, service cuts and services being streamlined to basic as is now.

A smaller fleet too, despite passenger numbers apparently increasing.

One way or another, I can see the Red Arrows getting MMC's (hopefully Scania) to allow the B9's to be used on the Pronto and make up shortages or, end up on the Crusader allowing the Mercs to be cascaded onto other services

(13 Dec 2014, 11:21 am)Andreos1 wrote I think the 163 worked through to Heworth at one point.
Not sure which way it went.

There were 'express' variations of the via Hetton 16x services, that went to Newcastle via Newcastle Road.

Haha,I won't state my thoughts on all those services which were withdrawn or merged into one...

the 163 did go to heworth it was replaced by the 26 on the same route from sunderland and then the 29 and soon to be 35. I found the old timetable http://northeastbuses.co.uk/archive/GoNo...il2003.pdf

(13 Dec 2014, 10:56 am)Andreos1 wrote I remember the 160 and 163.
New Lambton to Sunderland.
Ended up being Cadet workings until the services were withdrawn.
Redby ran one and GNE the other, in the mid/late 90's. Then GNE got them both.

They both missed Grasswell out though. One passing Shiney College and the other via Newbottle after coming through Fencehouses and Sedletch Road.

Redby never ran 160 or 163 they did run the 161 tho in competition with wear buses

What did Redby run along Success Road past the college then?

Pretty sure the 161 was Wear Buses and OK.

(13 Dec 2014, 11:24 pm)Andreos1 wrote What did Redby run along Success Road past the college then?

Pretty sure the 161 was Wear Buses and OK.

161 was originally ok travel then go north east bought ok travel. Go wear buses and redby both ran a 161 against each other along success road 

Thought the 161 just went along the main road?

Can't ever remember the 160/163 (one of the two. Can never remember which one) AND 161 all going along Success Road.

163 used to go through success and turn left at the end of the road, 160 used to operate through newbottle then both services operated towards new lambton. Redby only operated the 161 which ran at 10 & 40 every hour, wear buses left sunderland at 00 & 30

Here are the 16x series timetables circa February 1998 if that clarifies anything for anyone.

 

Also a map of the Houghton area from the same year.

There's loads of alternates of the 16# series over the years.

Just noticed that GNE are only running the 706/707 between 9:14am and 13:44pm, will Stanley travel run rest of the times because if not the timetable has being well cut down

(15 Dec 2014, 7:38 pm)Michael wrote Just noticed that GNE are only running the 706/707 between 9:14am and 13:44pm, will Stanley travel run rest of the times because if not the timetable has being well cut down

I was wondering the same thing when I looked at the timetable.

I'm pretty sure I still see the services operating when I finish work at around 3pm.

Potentially because that's all Go North East could justify running commercially - the loadings may be lower outside of those hours.

Go North East will operate all runs except service 708 (which as i understand was part of the cancellation for Stanley Travel suggesting that this particular service won't operate anymore) only the services will finish some 3 hours earlier than they do currently. 

Currently, the last journey is a service 708 and departs Stanley Bus Station at 17:09 and arrives back at Stanley at 17:51
When the new timetable is introduced, the last journey will be service 707 and will depart Stanley Bus Station at 13:44 and arrive back at 14:12

Now baring in mind most people who use this service are OAPs, it is a wise decision to cut the service shorter than it actually is. I mean, its not as if they don't have the other services that go through Tanfield Lea, Catchgate and Annfield Plain although there are no other services that go through West Kyo, Harperley, Hamsterley Gardens or Fines Park.

With Sunderland changes coming here is how i think stand changes will occur at Park Lane:

Stand A – Metro replacement
Stand B – X21/22/23
Stand C – X7/61
Stand D - 60
Stand E – 38/238
Stand F - 2/2A towards Silksworth 
Stand G - 700
Stand H – 39/73
Stand J – 2/2A towards Washington 
Stand K – 8/78/78A
Stand L – 35/35A/36 – Towards Houghton, Chester- le- street
Stand M – X1, X35
Stand N – 20/20A - Durham
Stand P – E1, E2, E6
Stand Q – 20/20A - South Shields
Stand R – 9
Stand S – 56
Stand T – 35/35A/36 – Towards North Sunderland, Heworth etc
Stand V – 135/136/700/X36

Would stick the 8 on T and swap allocations for L and around.

The 8 is then with other North Sunderland services - attracting passengers to it, who would ignore if it was left as it is.
Frequent services to Houghton on adjoining stands.

(15 Dec 2014, 8:42 pm)Andreos1 wrote Would stick the 8 on T and swap allocations for L and around.

The 8 is then with other North Sunderland services - attracting passengers to it, who would ignore if it was left as it is.
Frequent services to Houghton on adjoining stands.

I was just thinking frequency wise, and so stands weren't congested but i agree 8 could do better if it was on Stand T, although it only passes through the enterprise park