@Fozz - the ref criticism issue isn't a difficult one to sort out. Give the referee a press slot after the game, where they can explain their 'big' calls. It would eliminate some of the guesswork carried out by pundits for hours afterwards.

(27 Dec 2014, 6:26 pm)MrFozz wrote After talking about the legality of pubs broadcasting football the other day, I saw an interesting notice in the Window of The Wheatsheaf earlier which said

Employees of the F.A, P.L, Sky Sports and Bein Sports are not allowed on these premises  by management until further notice.

Can they actually do that???

As long as the pub is not specifically targeting groups whose characteristics are protected under the 2010 Equality Act - they can refuse to serve (or levy conditions upon) any person who enters their premises. For example, some bars require a certain dress-code while some shops have notices stating 'only two children allowed in the shop at one time'. The latter might be challenged on the grounds of age as age is a protected characteristic (although targeting children isn't necessarily discriminatory) but the requirement of one conforming to certain standard of dress is not discriminatory. 

Barring employees of the FA, PL, Sky Sports or BT Sports would not be classed as discriminatory as it does not specifically target any cohort protected under the Equality Act. So, yes, the pub can actually do that. 

(27 Dec 2014, 6:26 pm)MrFozz wrote After talking about the legality of pubs broadcasting football the other day, I saw an interesting notice in the Window of The Wheatsheaf earlier which said

Employees of the F.A, P.L, Sky Sports and Bein Sports are not allowed on these premises  by management until further notice.

Can they actually do that???

I've seen it before elsewhere. It actually protects them to an extent, as if one of these employees come in, and they later get a court notice, then they can try and press charges for the said employee being on the premises without permission.

(28 Dec 2014, 1:01 am)aureolin wrote @Fozz - the ref criticism issue isn't a difficult one to sort out. Give the referee a press slot after the game, where they can explain their 'big' calls. It would eliminate some of the guesswork carried out by pundits for hours afterwards.

Yeah, I think Refs should get a slot after a match to talk to the cameras, if a big decision has been made, it would be good to hear first hand from a ref, why he made the decision, and the chance to apologise if he laters sees he got it wrong(although it is too late by then, though your red card maybe rescinded)...

They could even do a joint press conference with club reps...Or even hold a private meeting with both managers or captains after the game to discuss the match played...

I personally think some referees only have themselves to blame sometimes, it must be a hard job, I could not be arsed with it to be honest.

Another thing that needs to be sorted out is players sorrounding the Ref, and a rule brought in that only allows the offending captain and his skipper to deal with contentious issues, with serial offenders being fined on a sliding scale for each offence.

(28 Dec 2014, 9:35 am)MurdnunoC wrote As long as the pub is not specifically targeting groups whose characteristics are protected under the 2010 Equality Act - they can refuse to serve (or levy conditions upon) any person who enters their premises. For example, some bars require a certain dress-code while some shops have notices stating 'only two children allowed in the shop at one time'. The latter might be challenged on the grounds of age as age is a protected characteristic (although targeting children isn't necessarily discriminatory) but the requirement of one conforming to certain standard of dress is not discriminatory. 

Barring employees of the FA, PL, Sky Sports or BT Sports would not be classed as discriminatory as it does not specifically target any cohort protected under the Equality Act. So, yes, the pub can actually do that. 

(28 Dec 2014, 10:07 am)aureolin wrote I've seen it before elsewhere. It actually protects them to an extent, as if one of these employees come in, and they later get a court notice, then they can try and press charges for the said employee being on the premises without permission.

A question about barring certain people from pubs, what would stop Sky, FAPL and Bein planting people in the Wheatsheaf or through a mystery shopper kind of thing???

(28 Dec 2014, 2:14 pm)MrFozz wrote A question about barring certain people from pubs, what would stop Sky, FAPL and Bein planting people in the Wheatsheaf or through a mystery shopper kind of thing???

As Aureolin has stated, if a plant has been placed inside the Wheatsheaf, they're on the premises without permission. That may impede upon any legal action. 

(28 Dec 2014, 4:05 pm)MurdnunoC wrote As Aureolin has stated, if a plant has been placed inside the Wheatsheaf, they're on the premises without permission. That may impede upon any legal action. 

Thanks for the answers...

1 more question as I am not very understanding of law...

When the Premier League, FA, Sky etc want to enforce there blackout rules, how do they enter a place they are not barred for or welcome in, would it need Police or Trading Standards..

To be honest, I dont see what the problem with it and dont understand the PL view on it, the blackout was designed because clubs were worried about a decrease in attendance at matches, has that ever been proven, I am sure attendances across the board have been down over the years, if those who watch in the pub could not see it at the pub would they goto the match instead, I dont reckon so, they would listen on the radio.

I read having the foreign decoder is not actually illegal, but openly advertising football is, so could someone get away with it providing they dont advertise it so openly

The ones I have always hated in football are Football Dataco, the people who sort fixture lists out, they are evil bastards, the amount they charge for to publish fixtures is extortionate...Had a canny little site with my mates about 10-12 years ago and decided I wanted to publish the fixtures for Sunderland, Newcastle, Middlesbrough, Hartlepool and Darlington...The site was getting about 5,000 hits a month until Football Dataco came along and asked for a shit load of money for the licence to publish the fixture list...Anyway I tried to get round it by using fake names, similar to the way Pro Evolution Soccer does/did i.e. Wearside Reds, Tyneside Blacks, Cleveland Reds, North Tees Blues and Co.Durham Quakers...Website ended up closing as the legal threats made me sick and my mates felt intimidated by the threat...Robbin Bastards

As with the blackout rules, that was another thing I never could get my head rlund

http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20141229/...70_4391045

(29 Dec 2014, 10:34 pm)aureolin wrote http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20141229/...70_4391045

Noooooooooooo.

(29 Dec 2014, 10:35 pm)Michael wrote Noooooooooooo.

All these modern day Newcastle fans wanting rid of him asap. They're delusional if they think a world class manager will walk in. 

(29 Dec 2014, 10:37 pm)aureolin wrote All these modern day Newcastle fans wanting rid of him asap. They're delusional if they think a world class manager will walk in. 

Hes doing a decent job, as a Sunderland fan i'll be gutted haha  

(29 Dec 2014, 10:37 pm)aureolin wrote All these modern day Newcastle fans wanting rid of him asap. They're delusional if they think a world class manager will walk in. 

I reckon it will be Tony Pulis, or possibly Tim Sherwood. 

(29 Dec 2014, 10:41 pm)Michael wrote Hes doing a decent job, as a Sunderland fan i'll be gutted haha  

If I were a Sunderland fan, I'd be more concerned with my own team's performance. Won 3 games out of 19 all season, and only two teams have scored less. Sunderland are a club with a big history, and they're surely got to get over how Newcastle are performing in the table, and act better than a bottom half team.

(29 Dec 2014, 10:37 pm)aureolin wrote All these modern day Newcastle fans wanting rid of him asap. They're delusional if they think a world class manager will walk in. 

I know that after some results and decisions he's made I've been a bit critical but if we're honest, he's probably about the best we can get. Credit to him for working with what he's had, and the pressure he's been under at times. All the best to him if he does go to Palace

(29 Dec 2014, 10:46 pm)aureolin wrote If I were a Sunderland fan, I'd be more concerned with my own team's performance. Won 3 games out of 19 all season, and only two teams have scored less. Sunderland are a club with a big history, and they're surely got to get over how Newcastle are performing in the table, and act better than a bottom half team.

I am mate, we need a striker but can Sunderland fans not have their say? , its just banter

(29 Dec 2014, 10:37 pm)aureolin wrote All these modern day Newcastle fans wanting rid of him asap. They're delusional if they think a world class manager will walk in. 

What you said...

I wonder who will take the reins at SJP...

Fat Mike is the money man behind Rangers, could Ally McCoist be an option, what about Colin Wanker, other names I heard mentioned are Steve Bruce and Frank De Boer, but De Boer wont leave Ajax till the end of the season

(29 Dec 2014, 10:53 pm)MrFozz wrote What you said...

I wonder who will take the reins at SJP...

Fat Mike is the money man behind Rangers, could Ally McCoist be an option, what about Colin Wanker, other names I heard mentioned are Steve Bruce and Frank De Boer, but De Boer wont leave Ajax till the end of the season

Just seen Coloccini being linked(?) for it, player manager?
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/footb...49277.html

(29 Dec 2014, 10:53 pm)MrFozz wrote What you said...

I wonder who will take the reins at SJP...

Fat Mike is the money man behind Rangers, could Ally McCoist be an option, what about Colin Wanker, other names I heard mentioned are Steve Bruce and Frank De Boer, but De Boer wont leave Ajax till the end of the season

The likes of Bruce are probably the best that can be hoped for. I doubt him or McCoist would go down well, due to their previous 'connections'. Every time something went wrong with Bruce at Sunderland, it always came back to him being a Geordie. Out of anyone, I'd probably take Tim Sherwood.

(29 Dec 2014, 10:34 pm)aureolin wrote http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20141229/...70_4391045

Read earlier Palace and Newcastle have already agreed on Compensation, and that Steve Bruce is Interested in the Mags Job if P45DUE does indeed go to Palace.

(29 Dec 2014, 10:56 pm)mb134 wrote Just seen Coloccini being linked(?) for it, player manager?
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/footb...49277.html

I would imagine any deal with Coloccini would be short term, being caretaker till someone like Frank de Boer would come in the summer, De Boers agent says he wont leave Ajax mid season, but would like to manage in the Premier League

(29 Dec 2014, 10:57 pm)aureolin wrote The likes of Bruce are probably the best that can be hoped for. I doubt him or McCoist would go down well, due to their previous 'connections'. Every time something went wrong with Bruce at Sunderland, it always came back to him being a Geordie. Out of anyone, I'd probably take Tim Sherwood.

After Steve Bruce and Tim Sherwood, I cannot think of anyone who is unemployed or would even be remotely interested in coming to Newcastle...

Would love to see someone like Marco Van Basten take the job...

But I think anyone expecting an earth shattering name being lined up will end up dissapointed

(29 Dec 2014, 11:08 pm)MrFozz wrote I would imagine any deal with Coloccini would be short term, being caretaker till someone like Frank de Boer would come in the summer, De Boers agent says he wont leave Ajax mid season, but would like to manage in the Premier League
After Steve Bruce and Tim Sherwood, I cannot think of anyone who is unemployed or would even be remotely interested in coming to Newcastle...

Would love to see someone like Marco Van Basten take the job...

But I think anyone expecting an earth shattering name being lined up will end up dissapointed

Lets see how long before this guy is mentioned in the media...

(29 Dec 2014, 11:12 pm)aureolin wrote Lets see how long before this guy is mentioned in the media...

I WOULD LOVE IT

I think I might apply for the Newcastle job based on my Football Manager Successes






I normally play a 3-6-1 or 4-3-2-1 Christmas Tree formation...My 3-6-1 is quite defensive, so I could not promise a thrashing every week, but I can grind out a lot of wins with it.

I would not be too demanding, I don't need or want millions a year, I will quite happily do the job for 52 large a year after tax(about 1k a week)

2.12bn spent?

Albion part company with head coach Alan Irvine

http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/albion...FWU4dDs.99

(29 Dec 2014, 11:41 pm)aureolin wrote 2.12bn spent?

I am in 2029/30 in the game now, I managed to keep hold of some of my higher priced players, so I obviously was not getting a return on them financially as I would keep them past there prime...

(29 Dec 2014, 11:47 pm)Michael wrote Albion part company with head coach Alan Irvine

http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/albion...FWU4dDs.99

Will throw my lot in for that job as well lmao

(29 Dec 2014, 11:50 pm)MrFozz wrote Will throw my lot in for that job as well lmao

Me too, wonder if Alan Irvine is off to Newcastle, replacing 1 Alan with another.

After talking about my achievements on Footy Manager it reminds me of this scene from The Inbetweeners

(29 Dec 2014, 11:47 pm)MrFozz wrote I am in 2029/30 in the game now, I managed to keep hold of some of my higher priced players, so I obviously was not getting a return on them financially as I would keep them past there prime...

Was just looking at mine, and I've spent £189m in 9 seasons, and made just under £500m in players sold. I'm definitely a selling club though!