(02 Nov 2015, 10:49 am)MrFozz wrote It is one of there own this time, not like, say, MH17, cant see them lying, not to there own people, if there at fault, they will just not tell anybody.

There now saying Pilot Error has been ruled out, and it apparantly has to be something external, Terrorism has not been ruled out yet

According to the BBC, it was an airline official that suggested that it was "due to an external influence."

However, the Government stance is that it's, "premature to speculate" and, "this kind of talk is not based on any facts."

Even if it was one of their own, you would be surprised the spin the Russian Authorities can put on anything. 

At the end of the day, the only time we will properly know what's happened is when the black boxes have been decoded and analysed. 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34697416